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Old 2008-09-01, 13:33
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Default Recycling Marijuana Smoke?

I'm not quite sure how this works, but I've tried/heard some stuff and I'd like to know about it.

Sometimes when me and my girlfriend smoke, we take the hits and blow it into each others mouth to help conserve. I've felt a little something after she's taken a few hits and given them to me, but nothing major.

And a friend of mine at work told me about some frosty mug trick, where you get a really cold mug out of the freezer, and blow your hit into it, and the cold makes the smoke sink. Then someone else or yourself sucks it back up through a straw.

Whats up with this stuff? Can you really get high off a little bit of weed this way?
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Old 2008-09-01, 13:44
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Default Re: Recycling Marijuana Smoke?

well i vape alot these days, which in and of itself its very efficient.

i once smoked the vapourised weed, it was quite a dirty high, if i could describe it it would be similar to dxm (you know that dirty congintive feeling).

its not very enjoyable as it makes me feel quite tired which is a problem enough as it is for me.

its good if ur rolling a spliff/blunt/joint, u just chuck a bit in with the rest, so ur conserving weed :)

but i have a tolerance and basically 1 hit from a vape of a pinch of weed and im gone.
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Old 2008-09-01, 15:36
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Default Re: Recycling Marijuana Smoke?

You.. uh.. do know that exhaled smoke contains no THC.. right?
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Old 2008-09-01, 15:39
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Default Re: Recycling Marijuana Smoke?

Quote:
Originally Posted by Get a Job
You.. uh.. do know that exhaled smoke contains no THC.. right?



can you prove that to me? i've experienced quite a contact high, before i started smoking daily, from my friends smoking a bowl in a car.
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Old 2008-09-01, 15:41
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Get a Job
You.. uh.. do know that exhaled smoke contains no THC.. right?


You.. uh.. do know that you're talking out your arse .. right?

http://www.marijuana.com/vaporizer/scientific-studies
the Leiden Univsersity study found that as much as 30%–40% of inhaled THC was not absorbed by the lungs and simply exhaled.
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Old 2008-09-01, 17:07
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Fuck you bitch.
http://www.erowid.org/psychoactives/testing/testing_faq.shtml#1
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"1.3.1 Passive smoke and positives:

Second hand marijuana smoke in a car can cause you to fail the next day' (Nightbyrd). It is possible that second hand [marijuana] smoke will raise someone to the 50 ng/mL level; however, *extreme* exposure is required. For instance, a closed car full of pot smokers and a non-smoker may render the non-smoker positive for both urinalysis and the hair test, provided that they are sealed in the car for a while. The Army did a case study where volunteers were put in a room pumped full of smoke for an hour, five time daily. Subjects started testing positive after the second day. The non-smoker would have to take in virtually as much second hand smoke as a smoker. Non-smokers are safe in a ventilated area, as long as they don't get a hair test. According to Clinton, simply blowing crack smoke on ones hair may cause a positive hair test. Second hand pot smoke doesn't affect the hair test results as much as crack smoke does mainly because exhaled smoke contains no THC. The only pot smoke that contains THC is the smoke that hasn't entered the lungs."

I guess erowid isn't a good source. Asshat. Your source is talking about vapes. We're talking about marijuana smoke.
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Old 2008-09-01, 17:28
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Default Re: Recycling Marijuana Smoke?

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Originally Posted by Get a Job
Fuck you bitch.
http://www.erowid.org/psychoactives/testing/testing_faq.shtml#1
"
"1.3.1 Passive smoke and positives:

Second hand marijuana smoke in a car can cause you to fail the next day' (Nightbyrd). It is possible that second hand [marijuana] smoke will raise someone to the 50 ng/mL level; however, *extreme* exposure is required. For instance, a closed car full of pot smokers and a non-smoker may render the non-smoker positive for both urinalysis and the hair test, provided that they are sealed in the car for a while. The Army did a case study where volunteers were put in a room pumped full of smoke for an hour, five time daily. Subjects started testing positive after the second day. The non-smoker would have to take in virtually as much second hand smoke as a smoker. Non-smokers are safe in a ventilated area, as long as they don't get a hair test. According to Clinton, simply blowing crack smoke on ones hair may cause a positive hair test. Second hand pot smoke doesn't affect the hair test results as much as crack smoke does mainly because exhaled smoke contains no THC. The only pot smoke that contains THC is the smoke that hasn't entered the lungs."

I guess erowid isn't a good source. Asshat. Your source is talking about vapes. We're talking about marijuana smoke.



well... gee.
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Old 2008-09-01, 17:57
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Default Re: Recycling Marijuana Smoke?

experience says: most thc is absorbed by the lungs in just seconds but there is still some thc left in the smoke blown out - not much - but some.
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Old 2008-09-01, 17:59
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well... gee.
The obscenities were not aimed at you. They were aimed at the dumbass that wanted to call me out without even reading what he quoted. Talking out of my ass indeed.
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Old 2008-09-01, 18:05
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without even reading what he quoted.

Umm .. I read it? ..
Also, I doubt that the bioavailability of the actual deliveredTHC is decreased by using it in smoke .. If you have any sources that say otherwise I would be interested :)
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Old 2008-09-01, 19:50
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Default Re: Recycling Marijuana Smoke?

Umm .. I read it? ..
Also, I doubt that the bioavailability of the actual deliveredTHC is decreased by using it in smoke .. If you have any sources that say otherwise I would be interested :)
Can you restate that in better english? I don't even understand what you're asking.
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Old 2008-09-01, 20:16
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Default Re: Recycling Marijuana Smoke?

Can you restate that in better english? I don't even understand what you're asking.

"I read what you said"

"I doubt that the rate by which your body absorbs the THC that is delivered is changed by smoking it"

Also, another thing that I thought of, there would obviously be a big difference between 'reusing smoke' and getting 'secondhand smoke', since secondhand smoke is dispersed into the environment leading to quite a low concentration of smoke,where for example if you blew it straight into someone elses mouth then it'd be a higher concentration.
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Old 2008-09-01, 20:40
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Default Re: Recycling Marijuana Smoke?

Ghetto shotgunning ftw. Unless of course the person responsible for shotgunning you steals the fucking hit and all you end up getting is spent smoke...


Any who, You might be able to get away with blowing your smoke into some kind tricked out condenser, but sadly, like most forms of recycling, it will probably not be even marginally worth the investment. One or two joints worth of pot smoke a day doesn't really have that much impact on the environment either, so I don't really get what you plan to accomplish...
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Old 2008-09-01, 21:05
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Default Re: Recycling Marijuana Smoke?

"I read what you said"

"I doubt that the rate by which your body absorbs the THC that is delivered is changed by smoking it"

Also, another thing that I thought of, there would obviously be a big difference between 'reusing smoke' and getting 'secondhand smoke', since secondhand smoke is dispersed into the environment leading to quite a low concentration of smoke,where for example if you blew it straight into someone elses mouth then it'd be a higher concentration.
I've already posted a source that proved you wrong. If you are doubting the validity of erowid go google it for fucks sakes. I'm not your research monkey.
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Old 2008-09-01, 21:54
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I've already posted a source that proved you wrong. If you are doubting the validity of erowid go google it for fucks sakes. I'm not your research monkey.

My point was that the source you quoted was concerned with second-hand smoke as you'd get in a car, not 'recycling marijuana smoke' as the title is, and the direct THC measurements I quoted earlier ..
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Old 2008-09-01, 22:41
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Default Re: Recycling Marijuana Smoke?

If done properly, there shouldnt be anything in the air you exhale anyways, just hold it in your lungs for 30 seconds or so.
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Old 2008-09-01, 23:39
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Default Re: Recycling Marijuana Smoke?

Blow your hits through a coffee filter, then extract it.

Common sense.

Or you could make a devise where you blow your hits out through a tube that runs into a sealed container filled with some isopropanol and a coffee filter or cotton balls at the top to catch any remaining thc. Maybe put some sort of screen on the end of your tube you are blowing into to increase the surface area of the smoke as it enters the isopropanol. Maybe put some valves on it so you could create a negative air pressure inside the container so it isn't so much work blowing your hits in.
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Old 2008-09-02, 10:50
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Quote:
Originally Posted by TrueBudSmoker
Blow your hits through a coffee filter, then extract it.

Common sense.

Or you could make a devise where you blow your hits out through a tube that runs into a sealed container filled with some isopropanol and a coffee filter or cotton balls at the top to catch any remaining thc. Maybe put some sort of screen on the end of your tube you are blowing into to increase the surface area of the smoke as it enters the isopropanol. Maybe put some valves on it so you could create a negative air pressure inside the container so it isn't so much work blowing your hits in.


OR make a 'bong' which you exhale into filled with high-proof alcohol :)
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Old 2008-09-02, 14:19
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i read on here some guy used to take hits on a bus coming back from his work. Hit had a strong and thick plastic bag, and he put a valve on it. And hed smoke on the back of the bus and blow into this bag. And the valve or whatever kept it in. You could probably inhale that smoke later off the bus.
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Old 2008-09-02, 16:21
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To the OP: Maybe you shouldn't be such a dirty jew and buy some more weed. Jew.
 
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