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| Better Living Through Chemistry Discussions of any and all sorts of mind-warping chemicals, pills, booze, mind machines, trippy stuff, current street prices, importing pharmaceuticals, smart drugs, nutrients, herbs, and altered states. Please try to keep your conversations "theoretical" in nature, since this is an open conference. |
# 1

2008-09-01, 00:35
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Bangin' DMT
I'm soon going to have a gram of DMT freebase. Can anyone help me convert it to salt because I want to IM it or IV it?
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# 2

2008-09-01, 00:39
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Australia, ACT
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Re: Bangin' DMT
Well you might do something really fucking stupid because asoon as you push that plunger down its gona hit you like a train, and being high on dmt with a needle in your arm might not be a good idea..?
Just smoke it man, just as effective.
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# 3

2008-09-01, 00:52
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Re: Bangin' DMT
Get a ph meter and calibrate it yourself using distilled water as a ph=7 setpoint and 2 grams of lye in 100ml of water as a ph=13.7 setpoint. Then dissolve the DMT in just enough warm distilled water to completely dissolve it. Then add, a drop at a time, phosphoric acid until the ph drops down to 7. When it is exactly 7, you have pure DMT in phosphoric salt
^found that, don't know how true/good it is.
I suggest IM not IV in this case.
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# 4

2008-09-01, 00:57
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Re: Bangin' DMT
This sounds like such a bad idea.
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# 5

2008-09-01, 01:07
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Re: Bangin' DMT
I don't plan on sticking myself, having someone else do it. I'd love to IV it, but it seems abit scary.
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# 6

2008-09-01, 01:09
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Re: Bangin' DMT
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Originally Posted by ChemicalFormulaLove
This sounds like such a bad idea.
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At least by yourself anyway...
If you even attempt this, I would have a friend on staff that has a fair bit of experience with needles so they could get the rig out as soon as you lose it. It would also be a good idea for them to have some benzos on hand for you. Scratch that... you'd need them piped right into your vein if you were really out of it.
I guess this would be one of those things that is truly a rulette. You'd be putting yourself at the mercy of one of the most powerful psychedelics and you'd have no real way to stop it until it runs its course through your system.
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# 7

2008-09-01, 01:15
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Re: Bangin' DMT
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Originally Posted by Cuban
I don't plan on sticking myself, having someone else do it. I'd love to IV it, but it seems abit scary.
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Yeah thinking about this now seems like a really bad idea, think about it, your going to be tripping REALLY fucking hard and when you look down at your arm your gona see some needle monster sucking your blood out or someshit.
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#8
 2008-09-01, 01:17
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Re: Bangin' DMT
Yeah thinking about this now seems like a really bad idea, think about it, your going to be tripping REALLY fucking hard and when you look down at your arm your gona see some needle monster sucking your blood out or someshit.
That's when you start praying.
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#9
 2008-09-01, 01:47
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36fuckin5 
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Re: Bangin' DMT
IVing DMT isn't that big of a fucking deal if it's really clean, guys.
OP: ask in Lab Tips. I do suggest that you read more about IV DMT, though. From what I can tell, it's not much different from vaporizing it properly.
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#10
 2008-09-01, 10:09
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Dafunks 
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Re: Bangin' DMT
Becareful. Im very interested on how it goes. Give us a trip report if you do it!
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#11
 2008-09-01, 11:47
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FullMetalJacket 
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Re: Bangin' DMT
Sounds like a blast.
Gonna try this, soon as I can.
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#12
 2008-09-01, 18:26
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Re: Bangin' DMT
I've never messed around with rigs either. Can anyone help me out with what to get/where to get it?
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#13
 2008-09-01, 18:31
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hypno 
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Re: Bangin' DMT
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Originally Posted by Cuban
I've never messed around with rigs either. Can anyone help me out with what to get/where to get it?
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cvs? I guess i never really looked. Any age restrictions on needles? I mean you could have diabetes for all they know.
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#14
 2008-09-01, 21:31
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Re: Bangin' DMT
cvs? I guess i never really looked. Any age restrictions on needles? I mean you could have diabetes for all they know.
I'm almost 22.
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#15
 2008-09-02, 20:12
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Re: Bangin' DMT
I've been thinking the same thing myself having recently tried IV LSD. Fucking wow. Also, don't try it after being up for four days.
Anyway, like I said I've been thinking about it and upon seeing this topic the idea of using an IV catheter hit me. I think if I were to take it to the next level and try IV DMT that's what I would do. IV LSD was fine, and as far as having someone else pull it out for you, uh, no. The whole stigma behind preparing a shot in front of other non-IV users is a bit much to handle on the cusp of one of the most intense experiences you will ever have.
My first time with IV LSD, I decided to have a close friend pull it out, and had to prep the shot before hand right there, and his "girlfriend" or whatever got really uncomfortable with the whole thing and left the room which made me uncomfortable as well, and everyone was already tripping face, so you can imagine just how fucking awkward the whole ordeal was. My second attempt was alone, and followed by smoked DMT freebase, and it was the most beautiful thing I've ever seen/been a part of. I never got past the infinite/fractal geometry/ real life mandelbrot.
My rule is to always trip alone though I will break that rule to trip with special people. Usually, I know from the very first time I meet someone if I will ever trip with them at some point.
People fuck a trip up. They bring you back to reality, and away from whatever thought process you might be journeying on.
Back on topic, from what I hear, it is not much different the smoked route, and the only reason I would use this route would be to include it with another drug in the same solution. IVDMTLSDFTW.
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#16
 2008-09-02, 21:06
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Naminator01 
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Re: Bangin' DMT
I have a feeling this won't work.
Blood barrier thing sounds kinda off/odd with DMT.
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#17
 2008-09-02, 23:50
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Re: Bangin' DMT
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Originally Posted by Naminator01
I have a feeling this won't work.
Blood barrier thing sounds kinda off/odd with DMT.
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If that was the case, ayahuasca and freebase dmt wouldn't work either.
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#18
 2008-09-03, 00:44
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Re: Bangin' DMT
IVDMTLSDFTW.
ThiS.
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#19
 2008-09-03, 05:04
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Re: Bangin' DMT
just go into the k-hole. and mix in a bit of dmt (yes it can be snorted)
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#20
 2008-09-03, 08:21
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Re: Bangin' DMT
read Rick Strassman's Spirit Molecule first, its all about IV DMT experiences
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#21
 2008-09-03, 14:47
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Patrick Bateman 
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Re: Bangin' DMT
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Originally Posted by Happloid
read Rick Strassman's Spirit Molecule first, its all about IV DMT experiences
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I've read the book and plenty of trip reports of smoked DMT. Seems mostly similar. Dosages are obviously different, and sometimes the initial "buzzing" onset may be different. Seems to me that IV'd or smoked, it takes you to the same place.
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#22
 2008-09-04, 03:51
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Re: Bangin' DMT
I so want to IV some DMT & LSD while sucking up a FAT rip of salvia whilst already st0ned as fkkk.
does it get any more completely mind-shattering?
I don't know.
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#23
 2008-09-04, 03:56
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Re: Bangin' DMT
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Originally Posted by Rizzo in a box
I so want to IV some DMT & LSD while sucking up a FAT rip of salvia whilst already st0ned as fkkk.
does it get any more completely mind-shattering?
I don't know.
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Preload with a large dose of datura, and do your LSDDMTKetamine shot the very first time you realize that you just had a conversation with your own reflection. If you can remember.
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#24
 2008-09-04, 04:03
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Re: Bangin' DMT
Preload with a large dose of datura, and do your LSDDMTKetamine shot the very first time you realize that you just had a conversation with your own reflection. If you can remember.
After a dose like that, there IS no going back.
Although this whole talk about reflections reminds me of the first time I smoked salvia - I realized the entire universe was just a reflection of myself. Literally, a reflection, a mirror. I could see the physicality of this mirror.
One of my friends, however, started rambling on and talking like a little kid, completely obliterated. My other friend got no effects (and still hasn't to this day), while the girl who was with us started raving about clowns and aliens and Chris Angel.
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#25
 2008-09-04, 04:07
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Re: Bangin' DMT
ITT I realize I have no money for hallucinogens.
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#26
 2008-09-04, 07:50
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Re: Bangin' DMT
After a dose like that, there IS no going back.
Although this whole talk about reflections reminds me of the first time I smoked salvia - I realized the entire universe was just a reflection of myself. Literally, a reflection, a mirror. I could see the physicality of this mirror.
One of my friends, however, started rambling on and talking like a little kid, completely obliterated. My other friend got no effects (and still hasn't to this day), while the girl who was with us started raving about clowns and aliens and Chris Angel.
Do it Rizzo.. Id be all madd props.
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# 27

2008-09-04, 15:35
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Re: Bangin' DMT
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Originally Posted by jenkins
Well you might do something really fucking stupid because asoon as you push that plunger down its gona hit you like a train, and being high on dmt with a needle in your arm might not be a good idea..?
Just smoke it man, just as effective.
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no its not as effective. its actually pretty hard to smoke dmt unless you know the right way to do it. IV'ing is still a bad idea though if your doing it by yourself. have a buddy/ trip sitter present to do the job and get it out of you in time. i ghighly reccomend the book DMT: The Spirit Molecule by Dr. Rick Strassman.
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# 28

2008-09-04, 20:01
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Re: Bangin' DMT
banging hallucinogens? really?
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#29
 2008-09-04, 21:43
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gratefulgarcia4 
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Re: Bangin' DMT
Yeah thinking about this now seems like a really bad idea, think about it, your going to be tripping REALLY fucking hard and when you look down at your arm your gona see some needle monster sucking your blood out or someshit.
when people use dmt, they are totally separated from reality. so you probably wouldn't even notice your arm.
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#30
 2008-09-04, 21:49
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gratefulgarcia4 
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Re: Bangin' DMT
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Originally Posted by Naminator01
I have a feeling this won't work.
Blood barrier thing sounds kinda off/odd with DMT.
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However, the brain is where DMT exerts its most interesting effect. There, sites rich in these DMT-sensitive serotonin recpetors are involved in mood, perception, and thought. Although the brain denies access to most drugs and chemicals, it takes a particular and remarkable fancy to DMT. It is not stretching the truth to suggest that the brain "hungers" for it.
The brain is a highly sensitive organ, especially susceptible to toxins and metabolic imbalances. A nearly impenetrable shield, the blood-brain barrier, prevents unwelcome agents from leaving the blood and crossing the capillary walls into the brain tissue. This defense extends even to keeping out the complex carbohydrates and fats that other tissues use for energy. The brain burns instead only the purist form of fuel: simple sugar, or glucose.
However, a few essential molecules undergo "active transport" across the blood-brain barrier. Little specialized carrier molecules ferry them into the brain, a process that requires a significant amount of precious energy. In most cases, it is obvious why the brain activity transports particular compounds into its hallowed ground; amino acids required for maintaining brain proteins, for example, are allowed in.
Twenty-five years ago, Japanese scientists discovered that the brain actively transports DMT across the blood-brain barrier into its tissues. I know of no other psychedelic drug that the brain treats with such eagerness. This is a startling fact that we should keep in mind when we recall how readily biological psychiatrists dismissed a vital role for DMT in our lives. ...
^^this is from the spirit molecule book.
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#31
 2008-09-04, 23:02
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Re: Bangin' DMT
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Originally Posted by Rizzo in a box
I so want to IV some DMT & LSD while sucking up a FAT rip of salvia whilst already st0ned as fkkk.
does it get any more completely mind-shattering?
I don't know.
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Smoke a blunt and down some Datura seedpods, Cut one huge line of 2C-i, Ketamine,2C-b,2C-e, then have someone IV DMT in one arm, LSD in the other as your rip a 4 foot bong of salvia. that was fun to think about
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#32
 2008-10-07, 19:44
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Patrick Bateman 
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Re: Bangin' DMT
http://dmt-nexus.com/doc/DMT-The-spirit-molecule.-.by.Rick.Strassman.pdf
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# 33

2008-10-07, 20:10
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Re: Bangin' DMT
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Originally Posted by PandaOfAMan
Get a ph meter and calibrate it yourself using distilled water as a ph=7 setpoint and 2 grams of lye in 100ml of water.
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Who the fuck would inject something with lye in it?
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# 34

2008-10-08, 07:17
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Re: Bangin' DMT
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Originally Posted by Johnny Bonanno
Who the fuck would inject something with lye in it?
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Because you won't have much/any lye at pH 7.
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