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| Better Living Through Chemistry Discussions of any and all sorts of mind-warping chemicals, pills, booze, mind machines, trippy stuff, current street prices, importing pharmaceuticals, smart drugs, nutrients, herbs, and altered states. Please try to keep your conversations "theoretical" in nature, since this is an open conference. |
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#1
 2008-08-30, 23:58
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shrooms help
leme start off by saying that im pretty noobish when it comes to shrooms. ive done research on erowid and other sites and whatnot. But no hands on experience with them.
So theres been alotta kids i know lookin to get shrooms but didnt have a connect. So i knew this guy who could get them. Figuring a good dose was 2-3.5 grams per person i got what i thot was a halfie of shrooms. Figuring i could sell them and make profit (i paid 150).
so about 2 weeks ago I got the bag and it seemed pretty heavy no big deal only better for me. I had checked on them a coulpe times they lokoed fine. i ate a small dose to test them and had some effects.
Fast forward to today. My best friend and this girl im close friends with paid for 6 grams of shrooms ($60). So i just went to weigh it out and it was 2+ ozs  huh? Am i missing something here. But there is a big problem. most of the caps have liquified and theres a bunchy goo and liquid at the bottom of my bag  . There were several stems that survived i gathered those (about 20 grams) to give to boy. But I need to know if theyre still ok to take. I imagine the psilocibin is still intact. Its just they are fucking disgusting, and theres a bunchy mushy caps falling apart. I didnt see any mold. Just a buncha smelly goo.
1) any idea what an appropriate dose might be (i dont know the species or anything, so dont flame me im just throwin it out there).
2) Are they safe to eat? or what could be possible side effects?
I can post pics later if needed.
Im giving them a little more than 20 grams of stems (out of the 2+ ozs).
edit: i threw the 20 gs i was giving my friend in the freezer. And they were sitting in a box in my room. Up until the last couple days it was rainy and cool (70s) for the past couple weeks. This week it started getting hot. and it was always humid. But i kept the fan on in my room like 24/7, which keeps it cool.
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#2
 2008-08-31, 00:04
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Re: shrooms help
could be fake shrooms...tough dude that happened to me once
stored them and 2 hours later the bag was full of disgusting liquid and no shrooms
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#3
 2008-08-31, 01:05
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spencetron 
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Re: shrooms help
They weren't properly dried! God, you probably got ripped off too, seeing that (exactly) 89% of mushroom mass is water. That would explain why they feel lighter now after a while, and why they are gross mush now.
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#4
 2008-08-31, 01:17
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Re: shrooms help
well if thats the case could i just dry them out somehow?
This may sound gross but... could one trip off the liquidy goo at the bottom of the bag? I mean if u blended it with alot of shit...
Also do stem or caps have more psilocibin? or is it indifferent?
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#5
 2008-08-31, 01:21
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HippieFlipping 
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Re: shrooms help
If you have a gas oven you can put them in there on about 120-140 degree for like 5 hours and they will dry up but heat can destroy psilocybin so i would just throw them in front of a fan for a while and they will dry up just fine
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#6
 2008-08-31, 01:25
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Re: shrooms help
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Originally Posted by HippieFlipping
If you have a gas oven you can put them in there on about 120-140 degree for like 5 hours and they will dry up but heat can destroy psilocybin so i would just throw them in front of a fan for a while and they will dry up just fine
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thanks so much. I was worried they werent edible and i was screwed. Seems like they werent dried. And when i had a small dose, they definatley didnt seem dried.
My grandmas gonna be here all next week, gonna have to wait before i have a chance to dry them. Maybe ill leave them in my car one day at school. My cars black leather heats the car up like a motherfucker, when i get in my car afterskool its unbearable.
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#7
 2008-08-31, 01:28
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HippieFlipping 
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Re: shrooms help
the sun can damage the potency if you got a closet in your room and a little fan just put them on a box by the fan
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#8
 2008-08-31, 01:32
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Re: shrooms help
what if i like just spread them out on an oven pan and put them in my hatchback. No sun will get in cuz of the hatchback.
Also what shuold i do with the liquid. Should i dump it out, or will it have psylocibin. I could make a drink or a popsicle or sometin.
edit: my grandmas staying in my room for the week... And shes fuckin nuts. Im movin all my shit cuz shell like go through everything in my room. She used to break into my moms locked bedroom, break into her locked cabinet and read her diary...
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#9
 2008-08-31, 01:36
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spencetron 
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Re: shrooms help
You *could* just put a fan blowing on the shroom goo for ~6-10 hours to try them, although I really don't condone the ingestion of moldy shroom goo.
You got ripped off so bad, make sure any shrooms you buy are cracker dry first. Unless the dealer sells them fresh and accounts for the price/weight difference.
edit: cars on hot days get humid as fuck inside. Humidity+warmth= perfect conditions for more contamination.
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#10
 2008-08-31, 01:37
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Re: shrooms help
can anyone tell me how much 2+ ozs of shrooms would be dried?
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#11
 2008-08-31, 01:42
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spencetron 
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Re: shrooms help
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Originally Posted by droppinds
can anyone tell me how much 2+ ozs of shrooms would be dried?
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I already gave you the numbers, do your own math you lazy bastard.
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#12
 2008-08-31, 02:31
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Re: shrooms help
89% of mushroom mass is water.
whoops my bad
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#13
 2008-08-31, 04:01
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Re: shrooms help
sounds like you got inky caps that melted
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#14
 2008-08-31, 04:09
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Re: shrooms help
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Originally Posted by WonkierBubble
sounds like you got inky caps that melted
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inky caps? 
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#15
 2008-08-31, 05:01
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Dragonflame 
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Re: shrooms help
inky caps?
Google could have answered all of your dumb-ass questions. But... I love shrooms, so Ill give you a hand.
http://www.mushroomexpert.com/coprinopsis_atramentaria.html
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#16
 2008-08-31, 05:14
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Re: shrooms help
Although Coprinopsis atramentaria is a popular edible, several people every year (in North America) get sick enough from eating it to require medical attention (see Mechem, 2007). The mushrooms contain coprine, a toxin similar to disulfiram, the ingredient in the drug Antabuse, given to alcoholics. Like Antabuse, Coprinopsis atramentaria produces no ill effects--unless you consume alcohol, which will trigger nausea, vomiting, rash, dizziness, and so on. Theoretically, Coprinopsis atramentaria is a safe edible if no alcohol is consumed for about five days. However, there is evidence that the alcohol "consumption" can be as little as smelling rubbing alcohol or perfume! All in all, the mushroom is best avoided; I don't recommend it for the table.
i guess i wont tell ppl that bit when i sell them... haha
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#17
 2008-08-31, 06:44
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Re: shrooms help
i guess i wont tell ppl that bit when i sell them... haha
Die slowly in a car fire.
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#18
 2008-08-31, 16:32
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spencetron 
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Re: shrooms help
I highly doubt you got "inky caps". Anyone who has grown mushrooms for any length of time knows that if not properly dried, mushrooms will decompose into nasty goop after a while. You just got ripped off.
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#19
 2008-09-01, 02:02
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36fuckin5 
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Re: shrooms help
Dude, WTF are you doing? Your mushrooms are fucking rotting! You should have dried them when you first got them. DO NOT FUCKING EAT THAT GOO. DONT EVEN EAT ANYTHING THAT STILL LOOKS GOOD. YOU WILL GET VERY, VERY SICK!!
Why the hell are you buying wet mushrooms anyway? That's fucking retarded. Don't sell those, either. You might fucking kill someone.
They're NOT inky caps (and if they were, you shouldn't fucking eat them), they're rotten Cubensis.
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