or anyone else that would know this kind of stuff, but i'm assuming only joepedo would since he knows about all this chemical stuff

for 5 or 6 weeks, a while back, i was injecting testosterone propionate while i was working out, and let me say, steroids are fucking awesome. i was injecting about 300 mg's a week, which after discounting the ester weight, would be like 250 mgs of testosterone, roughly

is there any kind of "legal" supplement that would boost my testosterone levels back up that high, or anything close it it?

or anything that would even get it up to that level?

anything i could do to help increase testosterone levels, like stop masturbating or something?

p.s. i considered putting this into reinvent yourself, but i don't think it belongs there.

Eat more monounsaturated fat. I think that is one that supposedly raises testerone levels. Might have the name confused with something else and I'm too lazy to double check. Nuts, olive oil, canola oil and peanut butter are all good sources.

Don't take long breaks without eating. The body needs a steady supply of calories to keep that testosterone going.

Oh and don't neglect your beauty sleep.

word. thanks for that.

Say bye to your testicles.

No problem. Hopefully JoePedo can answer it more in depth. I am much too high for that.

Should have gone with your first thought.

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what the hell? this thread is about taking drugs to alter my body's chemistry, not workout routines

edit: nevermind... i read the forum description. you win

Crap you didn't want to know :
Searching "testosterone biosynthesis p450" on a google image search turns up child porn.

Thanks for asking the question. I always love it when &totse unexpectedly raises my felony rating... It's a sign you're asking the tough questions your government doesn't want to know...

Unfortunately, what it does not turn up any longer is my favorite chart. Or for that matter anything that would be useable.

http://img300.imageshack.us/img300/8045/chartel2.png

...which, thanks be to allah, I have (along with the article) right there.

The first thing one will notice is that the starting point is HDL. (actually, it just says "cholestorol." Trust me, it's HDL) Ergo, spiking someone's HDL:LDL ratios would provide an ample degree of starting material, whether or not the body can make use of it, and help guard against heart disease!

Ergo, long story short...

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/2649645

A healthy mix of saturated and monounsaturated fats should be able to spike that through the roof to toxic levels while keeping your LDL down.

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/16950175

As can niacin.

Of course, all that is useless if it just goes on to become cortisone or some other catabolic corticoid. 'n as we can see by the chart, CYP17 induction is what kicks it into the "anabolic steroid" pile.

http://www.fasebj.org/cgi/content/abstract/6/2/719

So drink coffee. Or, any other inhibitor of cAMP breakdown, which includes anything caffiene bearing. Watch out for the catabolic corticoid release of caffiene, though.

'n if you're up to read the abstract at the top of the first page, phospholipids - sunflower oil, soy lecthin, phosphatidylcholine, etc - also induce CYP17.

http://endo.endojournals.org/cgi/rep...47/11/5249.pdf

To the point where, apparently, increase in phospholipid synthesis is the major contribution of cAMP.

http://www.pubmedcentral.nih.gov/art...?artid=2099220

Once you've got a fuckload of formerly HDL shunted into DHEA (which you can buy at the store in several jurisdictions, btw. It's just fucking expensive)... it can't get back. The only way out is to turn into 'roids.

At this point, checking the chart, our main interest is an aromatase inhibitor. I hear the prescription ones are less-illegal than 'roids themselves, but I could be wrong.

http://www.anaesthetist.com/physiol/.../cyp/cyp19.htm

Should give you a short pharmaceutical shopping list.

Suffice to say, by the time it's made it to DHEA, it's not getting out of the steroid pathway. 'n the only way out is through testosterone, into estrogen or estradiol. If it can't do that, you're producing test, and it's staying there.

Or, to phrase it the RiY way... "essential fats are an important part of the diet."

thanx for taking the time out to make a good post, JoePedo

seconded.

thanks a lot.