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Old 2008-08-29, 00:43
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Default Poppy pod questions

First off, I'm uesd to shooting H (rarely) and just general opiates; I love mah opiates. Now, I've never fucked around with poppy pods but I want to and I was looking for some info. How hard is it to make opium from the pods? How many decent sized pods should one use to make a tea? How does the tea compared to other opiates? And are the pods really worth the money? Thanks.
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Old 2008-08-29, 00:48
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First off, I'm uesd to shooting H (rarely) and just general opiates; I love mah opiates. Now, I've never fucked around with poppy pods but I want to and I was looking for some info. How hard is it to make opium from the pods? How many decent sized pods should one use to make a tea? How does the tea compared to other opiates? And are the pods really worth the money? Thanks.
Yeah it's def. worth trying if you have no other opiates at the time. As far as potency it's possible for it to vary wildly from brew to brew...which is why it's smart to start out a bit slow until you know the potency of your particular batch..but that's all up to you. I've had batches that match something you'd get from a few 5mg hydrocodones and some batches that were actually quite potent.

As far as the recipe: Here is a good one. There are a few different ways to go about making it though. Nothing a search on Google wont turn up for you.
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Old 2008-08-29, 00:59
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Yeah it's def. worth trying if you have no other opiates at the time. As far as potency it's possible for it to vary wildly from brew to brew...which is why it's smart to start out a bit slow until you know the potency of your particular batch..but that's all up to you. I've had batches that match something you'd get from a few 5mg hydrocodones and some batches that were actually quite potent.

As far as the recipe: Here is a good one. There are a few different ways to go about making it though. Nothing a search on Google wont turn up for you.

I've got access to all kinds of opiates all day. In fact right now I'm noddin my ass off from some H I shot abou 6 hours ago . But finding opiates isn't a prob at all...is it still worth it? How might it compare to say H? . And is it hard to make opium from the pods?
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Old 2008-08-29, 01:07
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I've got access to all kinds of opiates all day. In fact right now I'm noddin my ass off from some H I shot abou 6 hours ago . But finding opiates isn't a prob at all...is it still worth it? How might it compare to say H? . And is it hard to make opium from the pods?
Eh, if you don't have problems getting opes it really wouldn't be more than just to see how it works. It'd be worth it once or twice otherwise I guess. It wouldn't even be close to H if your just talking about the tea though.

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Old 2008-08-29, 01:13
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I've got access to all kinds of opiates all day. In fact right now I'm noddin my ass off from some H I shot abou 6 hours ago . But finding opiates isn't a prob at all...is it still worth it? How might it compare to say H? . And is it hard to make opium from the pods?
It's fucking easy to get opium from the pods. And only slightly more differcult to turn that into morphine. And only slightly more differcult to turn that into heroin.
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Old 2008-08-29, 05:21
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It's fucking easy to get opium from the pods. And only slightly more differcult to turn that into morphine. And only slightly more differcult to turn that into heroin.

Lol, alright I'm back I had to go lay down. I come back to burned holes in my keyboard because I nodded with a cig and apparently leaned into my keyboard with it . Lol, anyways I was reading up on some shit that said it was really dangerous to make H like that.


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Purification in the fourth stage, involving ether and hydrochloric acid, is notoriously risky. "In the hands of a careless chemist the volatile ether gas may ignite and produce a violent explosion that can level a clandestine laboratory," writes McCoy. The final product is a fluffy, white powder known in the trade as number four heroin.
http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontl...oin/transform/

Granted, it is from pbs.org still sounds hard.
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Old 2008-08-29, 16:23
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http://www.panthrax.host.sk/heroin_make.html#morphine
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Old 2008-08-29, 20:22
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http://www.panthrax.host.sk/heroin_make.html#morphine
That is a load of fucking horse shit. Putting acetic anhydride in a metal spoon? Cover with metal foil? Seriously, what a fucking joke. Strong acids and metals do not go well together. And having a reaction like that going on while attempting acetylation of morphine would cause all manner of impurities and contaminants, reducing overall yield.


The link is fucking bullshit. I don't care if he used to mod here, I call bullshit like I see it.
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Old 2008-08-29, 20:36
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Default Re: Poppy pod questions

So I'm off to work but first.

Get some live poppies.

Make slices in the pods like your tapping a tree for sap.

After all the pods are tapped wait for them to turn brown and harden.

Again like tapping a tree for sap, go back around to all your poppies and with a knife or something similar scrape the hard brown shit onto / into a container.

Smoke, prepare for IV(anyone know if the goo is water soluable? I imagine it would be), do er up.
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Old 2008-08-29, 22:29
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First off, I'm uesd to shooting H (rarely) and just general opiates; I love mah opiates. Now, I've never fucked around with poppy pods but I want to and I was looking for some info. How hard is it to make opium from the pods?
From plants still alive and in the ground? Very easy. From harvested plants? Not so easy, much more time and effort consuming.



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How many decent sized pods should one use to make a tea?
15-20, less if you got those "jumbo" size ones.

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How does the tea compared to other opiates? And are the pods really worth the money? Thanks.
I think they're worth the money. The effect, coincidentally, is most like that of morphine. It's a pretty strong effect, but not quite as good as oxy. It also takes longer to feel the full effect, when I tried it once it was like 2 hours untill I peaked.

I bought some of the dry pods from bouncing bear botanicals, back when they still sold them. I ground them up in a coffee grinder and started a pot of boiling water. Once the water started really boiling, I took it off the burner so that it would quickly stop boiling and at that point I dumped the ground up pods. This way non of the morphine was destroyed from hot temps. I'm don't think the temperature at which water boils would destroy the morphine, considering that people have been drying opium in electric ovens for a hundred years now, but it's nice to be on the safe side.
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The link is fucking bullshit. I don't care if he used to mod here, I call bullshit like I see it.

Used too?........

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Default Re: Poppy pod questions

That is a load of fucking horse shit. Putting acetic anhydride in a metal spoon? Cover with metal foil? Seriously, what a fucking joke. Strong acids and metals do not go well together. And having a reaction like that going on while attempting acetylation of morphine would cause all manner of impurities and contaminants, reducing overall yield.


The link is fucking bullshit. I don't care if he used to mod here, I call bullshit like I see it.

Thanks for telling me, I am by no means an expert, was just trying to help out. I don't suppose you have a link to a proper method? Preferably step by step? We spoke briefly about it once but the details were a bit sketchy for an uninformed chemist such as myself. Just curiosity, I'd like to see how it's done properly, no intentions of trying it with my chemistry knowledge.
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