Describe your un-drugged (no, not the website -.-) "hallucinogenic" or "HPPD" type experiences.

Mine:

I personally, have peculiar hallucination like waves in darkness that wash/pulsate over my field of view, repetitively(zooming in and out of the same pattern).

If i concentrate i can make the patterns progressively more intricate.... also i have noticed, among the dim, thin, multi colored, static overlay, intricate patterns that only exist for a tenth of a second as one precise "thing" progressively evolving from intricate flowers, and arbitrary parts of objects to butterfly designs.

It is difficult to even define what you are looking at, because it progresses so fast that you cant define what exactly you see, if you see anything at all, because all of this is "over-layed" on a "different dimension" of vision.

It sort of exists while simultaneously not existing.

Sometimes this is accompanied by weird sensations, such as confuzzling sensations of body part; size/weight/dimension/location distortion....

At other times, particularly during meditation, slow, expanding, breakthrough, begins to pulsate through my consciousness.

The sky quivers - Coloured static washes across pastels, fractals move on their own and stars dance.

You know what the worst thing about HPPD is? That it turns you into a fucking EMO.

What the fuck!?
I can recall closed eye hallucinations if i concentrate on them. But tripping is better with drugs.

I tend to get tracers from faster moving things. Such as if a person moves their hand really fast or moves a cigarette up to take a hit at night I see a tracer from it, I mostly started noticing this after experimenting with 2C-B frequently.

if i havent had caffeine in a day or two i get headaches that cause me to mildly halucinate... i will see things twitch out of the corner of my eye... not so much breathing but just like the shower curtain will twitch or something...

i have had the occasional acid flashback, just things moving for a little while... comes more when im really high...

when i close my eyes i see a black background with a fat white line outlined in green. for some reason, i always choose to concentrate and work on it. with enough power, the line always becomes donut shaped and fully green.

Actually, thats pretty dam normal, i am sure, not drug related.

I reason its from the way your focal point interacts with the natural occurrence of afterimages.

When i drink i sometimes get distortions of reality.


Like everything that moves fast has red/blue/green trails like a fuzzy pixlated television set.


But i think those might just be acid flashbacks.

I see straight lines quiver and have visual snow. When it gets bad I see what looks like my vision moving through a patterned tunnel, the best way of describing it is the old net yaroze game; "Between the eyes". (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AXNxnbVyQSc&feature=related) but more intricate and with better resolution.

I've had this for years though and it's not HDDP.

I have the "snow/static". But I haven't used any psychs other than pot so i'm sure it's just like that.

I also get weird lines and waves of darkness over solid colored walls, and they are present enough that I can follow them with my eyes and they don't dissappear.

Pretty much none, and I'm happy about it.

I used to get the static, see shadows move, hear noises and people calling my name. Everything would pulsate, walls would always be moving, quick movements would all have tracers, colors would change, and I'd get the floaters a thousand times worse than I do now. The ground underneath me would move and I'd get a weird vertigo thing if I focused on it too much. It would distract me from class and make me weird and paranoid around friends and in normal situations. About a year ago now I stopped using all psychedelics and cut way back on the pot, and it's been slowly getting better since. The worst was always the floaters, which would cloud my vision almost to the point where I was looking through a sheet of moving bubble wrap, and it's been a while since I've even noticed them now. I don't know if that's HPPD, because I didn't think that went away so easily, but whatever it was, I'm glad to be just about through with it.

This is a huge subject for me, going all the way back to my childhood, but I don't have time at the moment to elaborate, but yes, I get all kinds of things, though never quite severe or unmanagable, and even before I ever started using drugs. In fact I've experienced some crazy shit, "sober" as hell, though that word has really lost a lot of meaning for me, because there really is no such thing as sober, you can have a general base line, but sober is a joke.

I ALWAYS get this, like exactly how you explained and it gets a million times more tripping in half darkness.

I've considered seeing a doctor about it just because i have no idea why it happens, its not a pain or anything, just... weird.

I get that strange feeling aswell. I was at work once, and was walking from the backroom to help a customer. Suddenly I wasn't real anymore, not quite a dream even, since dreams can only exist if I did as well. It was like an OBE but not as intense and it wasn't pleasurable or liberating. I freaked out, and stopped mid sentence while greeting the customer, I adjusted to the change in perception and I don't remember ever "coming down" but I am normal again however. fucked up shit. It has happened before, I thought I had depersonalization disorder.

I kinda have snow vision (it kinda looks like everything is pixelated)...Walls seems to breathe often, especially after running then looking down at the ground...But i get this weird perception change once and a while which i asked my docs about a few times, first my vision starts to seem kinda of odd then my body feels kind of strange then all of a sudden my perception totally changes, everything i see looks very close up and 2-D, like a cardboard cutout. I would be standing outside looking 7 houses down at a house and it would look like it was right in my face and totally flat...It's a horrible feeling, and sometimes i think it won't go away but it always does after like 10-15min..When im laying in bed with my eyes closed and get it, i can feel it, i get this weird feeling in my body and my tongue feels weird in my mouth and I know when i open my eyes everything is going to be fucked up..and when i finally do open them, im right. My whole room looks flat and it looks like the walls are in my face (like i could reach out and touch my wall that 10ft away)....I had them for years now, it happened probably over 30x to me...I think they might be a temporal lobe seizure, i hope not though...It's a horrible feeling though, i'm totally disabled when they happen because my perception is so fucked up...And its horrible to look into your gf's face and for it to look so unrecognizable...has anyone else had experiences like this?? or any knowledge on this? it would be much appreciated...

i had depersonalization attacks many times....Tis a very strange thing, its like your watching a movie of yourself...Like your soul is detached from your body

If I space out while staring at a solid colored wall I see a weird yellowish film covering the wall. It moves around sporadically in a weird "jerky" way.

Spacing out while looking at a carpet or the floor usually reveals "floaters" and strange tentacle like waves that shoot up and down. The floaters just bounce around the room and the "tentacles" are a thin yellowish color.

I don't experience these without really staring for about 30 seconds unless i'm on basically any substance. Then they appear more often.

SafewaySelect, have you used alot of psychedelics in the past? That sounds pretty crazy.

when i hear buzzing noises thing seem to shake slightly and idk if this is normal or not but when i got off of a 20 hour flight. every 30 minutes or so the ground would quiver

ever get that breathing effect similar to when taking shrooms or something of that nature? you know, you stare at a wall for a few and it begins to breath in and out, and sort of morphs? i get that but to a lesser extent than if i were to actually eat some.

one night when i was sick my fever spiked in the middle of the night while i slept...

i woke up and started mumbling nonsense to myself in a delirium... i knew it all would sound crazy to anyone else so i tried to stay quiet... eventually i managed to get out of bed shaking and sweaty, went to the toilet and puked... then went back to my bed and passed out for the night...

it's called spirituality

it's called spirituality

'splain

'splain

drugs merely (for the most part) mimic the effects of chemicals that naturally are produced in yr brain. for instance, LSD mimics serotonin, cannabis releases loads of melatonin, the "harder" drugs release dopamine, etc etc. You see where I'm going with this?

well, spirituality is for the most part a way to maximize yr body's production of its own natural chemicals. meditation, concentration, mantras, etc etc - they're all tools just like drugs are.

http://www.serendipity.li/mcclay/pineal.html

So all this nonsense about drugs producing hallucinations and HPPD being a disease is a complete misnomer. HPPD is basically another word for having opened up yr third eye and not knowing what to do about it...

What truly produces hallucinations is the separative thought structure of the mind known as the ego(s).

in the terms of Castaneda/Don Juan, through the use of drugs yr assemblage point has become more fluid and doesn't just stick around on its habitual position, but it moves around erratically because you don't know how to act in the proper manner according to the new found fluidity, thus you think yr crazy or diseased. yr neither, you've just opened up worlds of possibility and don't know how to deal with it yet.

i had depersonalization attacks many times....Tis a very strange thing, its like your watching a movie of yourself...Like your soul is detached from your body

Exactly! It is really horrifying when you aren't on a drug. But I had a 3 hour long OBE the first time a smoked pot properly with a waterfall. I was flying above myself from about 20 ft. And when I stopped moving my spirit would retract back into my body.

first my vision starts to seem kinda of odd then my body feels kind of strange then all of a sudden my perception totally changes, everything i see looks very close up and 2-D, like a cardboard cutout. I would be standing outside looking 7 houses down at a house and it would look like it was right in my face and totally flat...It's a horrible feeling, and sometimes i think it won't go away but it always does after like

Hey!

I have experienced, the 3D to 2D space warming a few times on heavy doses of Ambien...and let me tell you: I am glad that it only happened while i was in bed. It felt like I was staring very close, at a bad painting. Depth disappeared and i was staring at one continuous confusing scene.


Have you ever done: Ambien, DXM, or Ketamine in "large" doses?

Ever experience a large, or prolonged, dosage of Klonopin(clonazepam)?

Yea i dosed up on ambien a hand full of times, never DXM or Ketamine though...and i used to be prescribed klonopin...I also used to smoke weed 24/7 for around 3 years but just recently quit for a while...I never tried any psychedelics either, besides a low dose of shrooms while i was drunk once... I've always wanted to try psychedelics but these little perception changes i get kinda freak me out, and i always get freaked out by the thought that as soon as i start tripping my vision will change like that and get stuck like that forever....scary thought... but i always wanted to trip out...think about it daily actually, but this thought is the only thing that is kinda holding me back...but fuck it im still dosing some mescaline this Labor Day Weekend...Also i have been having these perception changes before i even started using drugs.....or at least i think so..lol

P.S.- Aerogone, that is exactly what happens to me