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 #1 
Old 2008-08-25, 07:56
davyjonze davyjonze is offline
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Default Herbal highs

Anyone ever get anything from herbalhighs.com? They have lots of legal substances to use. They have a lot of user reviews but I don't know if I can trust those.
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Old 2008-08-25, 09:27
helterskelter helterskelter is offline
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Are you for real

The only thing i ever heard of that was legal that actually gives you a buzz is spice gold or some shit like that

But then there is salvia, get some of the extract, or have some one who is 18 get it for you

Never order from that shit and sites like it, the shit dont get you high at all, total scam
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Old 2008-08-25, 13:58
lucid_dreamer lucid_dreamer is offline
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I have no experience with the site personally, but in terms of "herbal highs" the only ones worth bothering with in my book are:

Kratom - This shit is pretty enjoyable occasionally. I would go for the foliage as opposed to an extract, as many extracts don't seem to get the full spectrum of active ingredients...also it's cheaper. I'm a pretty heavy heroin user, and this shit does a good job of killing my cravings.

Blue Lotus - I love this shit, the leaves and flowers are very relaxing brewed into a tea, steeped in alcohol, or even smoked. Probably your best bet though is a "tar" extract. I'm not sure what process they use to get that, but in my experience it's better than "powder" or even crystal extracts. Again, it seems those methods don't get the full spectrum of active ingredients...

Salvia D. - This shit is crazy. I've had some pretty mind-bending experiences on this shit...go for an extract. Start at 5x or 10x and work your way up.
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Old 2008-08-25, 15:52
ego-twitcher ego-twitcher is offline
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Seems like an interesting site...

Edit:

The stuff there is fucking awesome, but i want to make that stuff myself or buy it from a store, not online.
Does anyone know what the put in there? and were i can buy them?
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Old 2008-08-25, 21:14
LazerChrist LazerChrist is offline
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Very few legal high sites are to be trusted. Here are a few reputable websites worth checking out:
iamshaman.com
sagewisdom.org
greenstranger.com
Kratom and blue lotus are both fairly useful and interesting sedatives, but aren't good for much else other than experiencing that much-lauded "euphoria" so often mentioned on legal high sites. Euphoria isn't really worth much to me...I can feel euphoric because I just took a big shit. I don't think I need a plant to help me out with that. Salvia is...well, it's salvia. Some other interesting legal highs include, but I'm sure are not limited to:
Fly Agaric/Amanitas Muscaria-hallucinogen/deliriant
Kava-mild intoxicant
sinicuichi-vaguely halluinogenic/pyschedelic, vaguely weed-like. Can be fun if you have enough and you do it the right way.
Morning Glory/Hawaiian Baby Woodrose-Hallucinogen
So-called legal bud is bullshit. I've never tried it, but judging from the ingredients, it can't come anywhere close to the magic of cannabis.
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Old 2008-08-25, 22:18
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I ordered some smoking blends from IAS recently, just for fun. They have one they say compares to Spice gold.
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Old 2008-08-25, 22:36
pete288888888 pete288888888 is offline
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Kratom is amazing. Spice gold is a nice buzz as well. Salvia is fucking freaky. HBWR seeds are ok if your bored.

Peace
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Old 2008-08-25, 22:39
SenSation SenSation is offline
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Yeah, i've ordered from there before. Only the pills though..........they're pretty good and the prices aren't too bad either. Take two to get the proper effect though. The delivery is really quick as well.
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Old 2008-08-26, 06:08
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Anyone ever get anything from herbalhighs.com?

God damn, nigga... you wasted a perfectly good thread subject line on a question like that?!??!!

~sigh~ Finely-cultivated cannabis sativa is a pretty kick-ass herbal high.
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Old 2008-08-29, 06:08
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Originally Posted by davyjonze
Anyone ever get anything from herbalhighs.com? They have lots of legal substances to use. They have a lot of user reviews but I don't know if I can trust those.


The EDOT forums go over just about every herb available. They also have a vendor review section. I would look around there. Herbalhighs isn't that great of a vendor from what I hear although I have never ordered from them personally.

If you are interested in herbal highs, I would look into kratom, it's pretty much the best herb that is legal and easily available.
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Old 2008-08-29, 15:37
welcometocrazyworld welcometocrazyworld is offline
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If you are interested in herbal highs, I would look into kratom, it's pretty much the best herb that is legal and easily available.The more people you tell (especially drug abusers), the higher chances will be of it getting outlawed. Dipshit
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Old 2008-08-29, 15:40
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The more people you tell (especially drug abusers), the higher chances will be of it getting outlawed. Dipshit

Are you kidding me? There is advertising all over the place for kratom. I am sure the feds will check my post on totse and decide it is time for new legislation. Oh and...

FUCK OFF NEW ARRIVAL!
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Old 2008-08-29, 16:15
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The more people you tell (especially drug abusers), the higher chances will be of it getting outlawed. Dipshit

Only if they're a minority
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Old 2008-08-29, 18:38
LazerChrist LazerChrist is offline
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Outlawing kratom would be a pretty big waste of the bigwigs' time.
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Old 2008-09-01, 10:28
Moshr00m Moshr00m is offline
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Spice gold does work. In fact, some people might find it more pleasurable than weed.
Salvia is an absolutely crazy psychedelic. If you have previously tried other psychedelics and feel confident, get the 20x extract and prepare to anal-footfuck your brain in in just one bong rip.
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Old 2008-09-01, 10:40
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In legals, there is Methylone, Butylone, Mephedrone, and a whole host of beta-ketones and other good chemicals. There is also reportedly one legal high containing a serious C analogue.

Seriously, the legal market has improved so much recently, the good legal highs are sold as plant food or bath salts or something obscure.
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Old 2008-11-02, 17:55
an apple a day an apple a day is offline
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Originally Posted by lucid_dreamer
I have no experience with the site personally, but in terms of "herbal highs" the only ones worth bothering with in my book are:

Kratom - This shit is pretty enjoyable occasionally. I would go for the foliage as opposed to an extract, as many extracts don't seem to get the full spectrum of active ingredients...also it's cheaper. I'm a pretty heavy heroin user, and this shit does a good job of killing my cravings.

Blue Lotus - I love this shit, the leaves and flowers are very relaxing brewed into a tea, steeped in alcohol, or even smoked. Probably your best bet though is a "tar" extract. I'm not sure what process they use to get that, but in my experience it's better than "powder" or even crystal extracts. Again, it seems those methods don't get the full spectrum of active ingredients...

Salvia D. - This shit is crazy. I've had some pretty mind-bending experiences on this shit...go for an extract. Start at 5x or 10x and work your way up.


I too love blue lotus... I make Blue Lotus Martinis http://bluelotus-info.com/
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Old 2008-11-02, 19:24
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Is this site reliable?
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Old 2008-11-02, 19:36
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By the way, the "Skunk: a new breed of weed" from hh.com is excellent. My tolerance to weed is crazy now, so I've been smoking joints of weed mixed with that, and omg, it gets you so monged out compared to just weed alone. It's expensive, but from a gram which costs £9 it's enough to put into 5 joints, and it really is strong stuff.
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Old 2008-11-02, 20:36
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dude, dont buy from a website called herbal highs.. thats so fucking sketchy.. instead go to entheogen.com, go to the vendors forum and look for the vendors with the most posts....

the only herbal highs that actually do something are kratom and salvia... salvia is just fucking weird and uncomfortable, kratom feels similar to hydrocodone and is very pleasant....

here's some websites for these herbal highs you speak of all of which are very trustworthy, they have 99% positive reviews on there website

www.nomad.ecrater.com

www.gaianbotanicals.com

www.loveleafgarden.com
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Old 2008-11-02, 21:09
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the only herbal highs that actually do something are kratom and salvia

You're talking out your ass.

Spice Gold, Skunk, ex-ses are all legal smoking mixes which actually get you stoned.
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Old 2008-11-02, 21:30
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You're talking out your ass.

Spice Gold, Skunk, ex-ses are all legal smoking mixes which actually get you stoned.

i was just saying from my experiences there are the only ones that are worth it....what website do you buy the spice gold from anyway? as i've been hearing about it alot recently and am getting intrigued...does it feel similar to weed...explain the effects and how it's different from weed
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Old 2008-11-02, 21:36
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I'm going to ask one more time, not to be annoying, but i would hate to start a new thread. Anyway: I have been looking into a few of HH's products, and was wondering if they are legitimetly worth buying a few products (around 40 dollars worth -- between 2 people, one order).
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Old 2008-11-02, 21:38
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i was just saying from my experiences there are the only ones that are worth it....what website do you buy the spice gold from anyway? as i've been hearing about it alot recently and am getting intrigued...does it feel similar to weed...explain the effects and how it's different from weed

It's been a while since I had Spice Gold, but it was pretty similar. More of a mongy, head high than weed. Doesn't taste anywhere near as nice, but the taste does grow on you.

But yea, Skunk from herbalhighs.com is so much better than Spice Gold, even if it is a bit pricey it's worth it. With my current tolerance to weed I'd say that "Skunk" is better than weed.
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Old 2008-11-02, 22:03
welcometocrazyworld welcometocrazyworld is offline
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Originally Posted by forty5ive
I'm going to ask one more time, not to be annoying, but i would hate to start a new thread. Anyway: I have been looking into a few of HH's products, and was wondering if they are legitimetly worth buying a few products (around 40 dollars worth -- between 2 people, one order).

You live in New York; herbalhighs.com is a legit vendor but it is a UK vendor if you didn't know. Some of the products they sell on their site they will not ship to the US, such as Skunk what reject was talking about... just look at the product description.

To the OP and 45... since you live in the US, you probably don't want to order from a UK site for herbals due to the exchange rate, shipping time, and not to mention some UK vendors won't ship certain products here. Here are some good, American herbal vendors listed:

spiceworld420.com - or herbal blends such as spice; get chillin xxx, its the same as skunk what reject was talking about -
legalherbalshop.com - ranging from mild to strong, spice-strength blends
loveleafgarden.com - kratom and various herbs
fourwindsbotanicals.com - kratom and various, & exclusive herbals
ktbotanicals.com - shitload of various stuff
edit: plus the ones automaticmojo listed above
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Old 2008-11-02, 22:28
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I do realise that some products do not ship to the US (which sucks..i was looking foward to many stim's and ecstasy doubles. Also, the purple ohms are something i would love..Anyway, What would their location have to do with the actual pricing and shipping time?

I understand it's going to be effected, but exactly how much?
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Old 2008-11-02, 22:51
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I don't trust herbalhighs.com purely down to the lack of bad reviews. Iv had it before on sites that offer reviews and feedback forums where if you leave anything seemingly negative about a product they sell it is deleted leaving buyers with a false impression that the products are better than they are.

A lot of the legals avaliable do work, were pretty lucky in the UK to have so much of this stuff avaliable where you cant get it over in the US.

As its been said before the legals containing beta ketones work and work pretty well from whast iv heard from a lot of sources now, im hoping to try a few of these out once I got a bit more money in the pocket especially since even the MD I get is being cut now Mad

The smoking blends are great and work really really well. It truely does make you feel 100% stoned and not being cross tollerant with weed its great if you want to take a tollerance break or just dont get stoned anymore. The one side affect I find with these is they taste horrible, leave you with a really bad dry mouth and aftertaste that you cant brush out. They also give you stronger munchies than weed but if you got food to hand thats not such a bad thing! They also seem to build a tollerance a lot faster than weed and Im pretty suspicious as to the contents as I dont believe that the stated actives even if extracted would provide the exact high especially in the smallish amount required to get high from it. I suspect some kind of THC annalogue they arent telling us about, still again thats not nessesarilly a bad thing!

Try and steer clear of things that contain piperzines such as BZP & TFMPP, they are fucking horrible and arent worth the money you pay for them at all. These definelty arent a substitute for MDMA or E as much as they are stated to be, they feel nothing like it being more like really really dirty speed that makes you feel shit and even shitter on the comedown.

Iv not really tried many of the trips but I dont find many of them to be that great, most contain piperzine blends combined with the usual legal halucogens like HBWR.
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Old 2008-11-02, 23:21
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They also give you stronger munchies than weed

Holy shit he's not even lying.

I'm tellin' ya, the munch from Spice and Skunk is about 100x worse than the munchies from weed.

Think of the complete lack of appetite you get when on speed, and Skunk is the polar opposite. You just don't stop eating, at all. It's just neverending.
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Old 2008-11-02, 23:37
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So what i'm getting at is that it's completely not worth it? The trip ones (such as druid's fantasy, one of the 2 i planned on buying) contain LSA which i've wanted to try for some time now. One thing that appeals most to me is the packaging and administration ( The LSA is built into a pill, ready for consumption.) I was also looking at buying the "Cherries". If this is going to be a waste of my 25 dollars than i'll pass, but i figured the LSA would atleast work a little.
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Old 2008-11-02, 23:46
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Skunk is the polar opposite. You just don't stop eating, at all. It's just neverending.

Iv not actually tried skunk yet, what's it like compared to spice gold? More importantly does it taste better?! Thats the one thing that really lets down the legal smokes, if it wasn't for the taste I would probably smoke it a lot more.
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Old 2008-11-03, 00:00
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Just noticed this guy (http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=3M4wolaDJxU&eurl=http://herbalhighs.com/Item/Skunk_35g.aspx) is herbalhighs "endorsement" for skunk... Poor advertising sense really? Check out his videos lol!
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Old 2008-11-03, 00:02
welcometocrazyworld welcometocrazyworld is offline
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Iv not actually tried skunk yet, what's it like compared to spice gold? More importantly does it taste better?! Thats the one thing that really lets down the legal smokes, if it wasn't for the taste I would probably smoke it a lot more.
Check out my posts about Chillin XXX in the "Best Spice Gold online store?????" thread on the first page. They're both the same product, but the wholesaler (middleman actually) in UK/Europe branded it as Skunk, whereas it is branded as XXX Chillin in the US and Indonesia where it originates from. Same thing with the first blend the manufacturer made, 99-0 Chillin... the companies who buy it in the UK wholesale rename it "Toke," while in the US it is sold as its original name, 99-0 Chillin. Besides that, even some small-time vendors in the UK rename it something else besides cxx,(skunk) to a unique name they made up so it seems as if they created it.

To answer your question: It is much much, like 10x or so better than spice gold. It is the shit trust me; its really fucking powerful. I think this probably the closest thing you can get to some strong ass shit in Amsterdam, IMO, unless you have connects for BC bud or Cali club med, etc. That may sound retarded, but try it before you judge it and you will understand me better. It tastes cinnamon-y llike, and its a bit harsher compared to the spice line.
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Old 2008-11-03, 00:03
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Iv not actually tried skunk yet, what's it like compared to spice gold? More importantly does it taste better?!

It's so much better than Spice Gold. It's price is pretty much exactly the same as weed, but it is so good. I reckon if they didn't smell it before hand and you gave someone it they'd just think it was weed, and probably quite strong stuff.

It smells like pot pourri :p seriously it does. But it tastes pretty nice, nothing like it smells. I've only smoked it with weed and tobacco mixed in, and you can't really taste it too much, but it leaves a nice aftertaste, and it's smooth to toke. Oh I did have a bucket of it with a little bit of weed mixed in, that was pretty nice, bit harsher than weed that time. But yea it tastes nowhere near as bad as SG, and only marginally worse than the taste of Golden Virginia :p
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Old 2008-11-03, 00:04
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Yeah i saw one before for some guy "endorsing" Druids Fantasy and he linked his myspace, that was clearly made just for HH. It had a video of him and nothing else, it was so rediculously stupid. I would be embarassed. Speaking of Druids Fantasy, and i'm pretty sure i've said this like 8 times has any1 tried it, or Cherries???
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Old 2008-11-03, 00:22
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Originally Posted by forty5ive
Yeah i saw one before for some guy "endorsing" Druids Fantasy and he linked his myspace, that was clearly made just for HH. It had a video of him and nothing else, it was so rediculously stupid. I would be embarassed. Speaking of Druids Fantasy, and i'm pretty sure i've said this like 8 times has any1 tried it, or Cherries???

I've read a few reviews online on some herbal botanicals site/blog/forum whatever and all of them were negative and not worth it. Try looking up reviews for the product you are interested in next time and you will learn alot more information than asking on totse.
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Old 2008-11-03, 00:29
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I keep hearing nothing but praise for spice gold.Even on grass city then praise the stuff. Ive smoked similar herbal blends and it was nothing more than oxygen deprivation from the smoke. Think there is too many stoners out there that are full of shit.

BUT i decided to order a sample of spice gold, just to see...will post back in a couple of days...real green is hard to come by out here. When i only got one person out of 10 thats willing to supply and at the highest price ever..not my game.
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Old 2008-11-03, 00:30
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1,3-Dimethylamylamine =]
legal speed...
and once the recreational effects wear off, you'll just be able to be better overall at life. and lose weight :D
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Old 2008-11-03, 00:41
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Originally Posted by RelapseTreatment
1,3-Dimethylamylamine =]
legal speed...
and once the recreational effects wear off, you'll just be able to be better overall at life. and lose weight :D


Where would one go about getting this? and how would you ingest?
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Old 2008-11-03, 00:49
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Where would one go about getting this? and how would you ingest?

See thread: "legal stims"
 
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