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Old 2008-08-24, 04:42
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Default Opiates have no "middle ground" with me

It seems like there isn't a middle ground for me. I have very little-no tolerance either. 30mgs of hydro gives me a slight yet still somewhat pleasant buzz, while railing 20mgs of oxy over 1 hour makes me puke like a motherfucker. I sniffed 10mgs and after 45 minutes I barely felt shit, so I snorted another 5mgs, and still didn't feel what others described (euphoria, feeling relaxed, nodding). If anything I felt a little tired and a slight head buzz. I railed another 5mgs 15 minutes later and felt like shit for the next few hours, and vomited a few times.

What's the deal? Is all that oxy and hyrdo do is make you a little sleepy and buzzed, or am I doing something wrong?

If I'm feeling what most do then I'll stick to weed and psychedelics, thank you.
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Old 2008-08-24, 04:51
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Isn't that the way it is with all good drugs? It's always either too much or not enough...

Solution: You need better drugs. Can I suggest heroin?
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Old 2008-08-24, 04:56
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Default Re: Opiates have no "middle ground" with me

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It seems like there isn't a middle ground for me. I have very little-no tolerance either. 30mgs of hydro gives me a slight yet still somewhat pleasant buzz, while railing 20mgs of oxy over 1 hour makes me puke like a motherfucker. I sniffed 10mgs and after 45 minutes I barely felt shit, so I snorted another 5mgs, and still didn't feel what others described (euphoria, feeling relaxed, nodding). If anything I felt a little tired and a slight head buzz. I railed another 5mgs 15 minutes later and felt like shit for the next few hours, and vomited a few times.

What's the deal? Is all that oxy and hyrdo do is make you a little sleepy and buzzed, or am I doing something wrong?

If I'm feeling what most do then I'll stick to weed and psychedelics, thank you.
It happens to me on rare occasion like that but generally I get the desired effects: Euphoria, a feeling of warmth towards others, talkative, itchy and eventually (if enough is taken) I reach one of the best parts, the nod. It's basically a full body euphoria coupled with an inability to keep your eyes open, complete relaxation. It isn't so great while your driving though..i've had to blast cold air in my face while I smoked a cig and slapped myself across the cheek with music blaring to stay awake after chewing on a piece of a fent patch for an hour of a 4 hour drive. Wasn't so great then.

Everyone is different but they generally should have the same "common" effects like the ones I described. Maybe you should try a few other opiates such as Fent or even Codeine to see if you find them doing the same thing. I KNOW the Fent will make you nod your ass off though.
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Old 2008-08-24, 04:58
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Its just because hydrocodones are shit compared to most opiates.
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Old 2008-08-24, 05:02
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Default Re: Opiates have no "middle ground" with me

I always end up puking on 20mg oxy railed too, but when I smoke weed I dont puke. try combining them with weed
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Old 2008-08-24, 05:27
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ive never puked from oxy and iv done some decent doses. favorite drug btw, best high ever.
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Old 2008-08-24, 05:32
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Default Re: Opiates have no "middle ground" with me

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Solution: You need better drugs. Can I suggest heroin?
I'll pass on that, thanks. Seen what it can do to you and I know if I ever tried it I would want more.

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Codeine
Similar effects to hydro.

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Its just because hydrocodones are shit compared to most opiates.
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Old 2008-08-24, 05:39
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I'll pass on that, thanks. Seen what it can do to you and I know if I ever tried it I would want more.

Similar effects to hydro.
Smart man about the H...because you would .

Maybe try some fent then (if you can get ahold of it)? That would definitely get results and besides the higher potency of the nod it gives the euphoria you'd expect from the others.

Also, is railing the only method you've used? It may sound odd because railing is a really efficient way to go but if you haven't tried other methods such as chewing them up or parachuting or even (seriously) plugging then it wouldn't hurt to give it a shot.
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Old 2008-08-24, 05:51
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or even (seriously) plugging then it wouldn't hurt to give it a shot.
lol, sounds like it might hurt a little
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Old 2008-08-24, 06:06
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Smart man about the H...because you would .

Maybe try some fent then (if you can get ahold of it)? That would definitely get results and besides the higher potency of the nod it gives the euphoria you'd expect from the others.

Also, is railing the only method you've used? It may sound odd because railing is a really efficient way to go but if you haven't tried other methods such as chewing them up or parachuting or even (seriously) plugging then it wouldn't hurt to give it a shot.
I've never railed hydros. I have railed, parchuted and just eaten oxys. Railing it just makes me tired faster.

Fent isn't common around here, but I'm sure I could find it if I looked. Thanks for all the info man.
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Old 2008-08-30, 21:54
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Default Re: Opiates have no "middle ground" with me

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It seems like there isn't a middle ground for me. I have very little-no tolerance either. 30mgs of hydro gives me a slight yet still somewhat pleasant buzz, while railing 20mgs of oxy over 1 hour makes me puke like a motherfucker. I sniffed 10mgs and after 45 minutes I barely felt shit, so I snorted another 5mgs, and still didn't feel what others described (euphoria, feeling relaxed, nodding). If anything I felt a little tired and a slight head buzz. I railed another 5mgs 15 minutes later and felt like shit for the next few hours, and vomited a few times.

What's the deal? Is all that oxy and hyrdo do is make you a little sleepy and buzzed, or am I doing something wrong?

If I'm feeling what most do then I'll stick to weed and psychedelics, thank you.


It sounds like your tolerance is super super low 20mgs over an hour would not even give me a buzz

Snort 40mgs in two lines then try to come back on here and say it dont feel good fool

Another suggestion i must give is to smoke marijuana after the 1st line maybe then do the last after your baked
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Old 2008-08-30, 23:32
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get some opana.
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Old 2008-08-31, 01:23
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Maybe it's since your new to it? Once you get used to it all that shit goes away I bet.

Idk I remember back before I'd get real sick from opiates or I'd just have a slight buzz (except from my first experience which was the best). Then I got a luck chance to do alot more often for a short period. Now I don't really get the chance to do any opiates anymore but when I do, do them, there really isn't any sickness.

Actually vicodin makes me feel nauseous sometimes but I think thats from eating on an empty stomach or something maybe? Or the tylenol maybe.
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Old 2008-08-31, 18:44
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lol, sounds like it might hurt a little

plugging doesn't hurt if you do it right. I've only used it twice for oxy as I prefer I.V.ing or eating but it did work just fine. just use an enema and crush the pill and mix with warmer water. Put it in the enema with the tip lubed a little and squirt it up your bum, not too fast. It will feel a little wierd but that will go away after laying down on your stomach for the first 5 minutes or so to let it absorb.
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