totse.com | OxyCodone Versus Hydromorphone

LFOLSD · #1 2008-08-23, 12:06

Ill sum it up nicely.

Dillies give the best rush but lack awsome post rush euphoria.

Never shot oxy but would try it. How does it compare high and rush wise to dilly and how much less would i need if normally i would have to eat around 50 mgs for good high ?

cartmanblue · #2 2008-08-23, 12:32

Oxycodone FTW. Oxy is expensive for a reason, and dillies are cheap for the opposite reason.

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acexnx316 · #3 2008-08-23, 16:12

EXACTLY!

Dillies, say 8-12mg shot feels almost uncomfortable to me! The "rush" from dillies (At least for me) makes me feel like my heart is literally going to explode, then just travels throughout my legs, arms and entire body, followed by great pain relief, all this lasting a very short period.

I would choose oxy over ANY DRUG period! Other Opiates and/or CNS Depressants. Stimulants, Hallucinogenics, Dissociatives, etc, etc.

Cuz with oxy, for me, you give me 2-3 roxi 30mg pills or 1 OC 80, and after I bang that, there's nothing that compares, the shit feel so good and is so addicting, it shouldn't be on planet earth PERIOD! The euphoria [from the rush] is ENTIRELY AMAZING and the pain control is fairly average (Though wears off quickly as well). The rush from oxy is like none other! Oxy FT'MOTHER'FN'W!

Only other thing that would beat oxy in my book is a bag of at least 20% pure H, most shit on the street now is %3-5 pure if you're lucky! But then again, oxy pretty much IS heroin, just in a synthetic pill form and no starch or baby laxatives included! But if the H was 100% un-stomped on if you had a hook up in Afghanistan or Pakistan or some shit; and it was pure; a very small amount (OBVIOUSLY) would be great to see how it compare(d/s) to oxy, cuz to me, if one's not available, as long as the H is stomped to shit and at least a good percentage of active ingredient in it, then I don't mind booting it a day I was planning to do oxy but couldn't find it.

But ANYWAY... as said, oxy by far, no contest /thread

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PandaOfAMan · #4 2008-08-23, 16:39

Diacetyl morphine>Oxymorphone>Oxycodone>Hydromorphone

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acexnx316 · #5 2008-08-23, 18:00

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Originally Posted by PandaOfAMan View Post

Diacetyl morphine>Oxymorphone>Oxycodone>Hydromorphone

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Diacetyl Morphine IS Heroin... coulda just said heroin instead, so as not to confuse all the newbs, but you wanted to sound smart. I see how it is

PS: Only reason I say this, is because I listed as Heroin being the best opiate of choice (Especially to bang) next to Oxy (For me anyway), I see you see it the other way, but I do agree, if it was something like yellow jesus (lab prepared, liquid diacetyl morphine/heroin in a very high and close to pure form ready to inject, no filtering, heating, just draw it up and off you go), I, as well as many others I'm sure, would take that over any drug known to man.

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Cozy Amnesia · #6 2008-08-23, 21:43

Ok what about oxymorphone?

I've done oxymorphone once but never hydromorphone, but from what you people are saying they sound very similar. I got a very quick rush from snorting and it was a really great high, but I just didn't get the euphoria I get from oxycodone.

Before the Opiate · #7 2008-08-23, 23:13

Generally Oxyanything > Hydroanything

acexnx316 · #8 2008-08-23, 23:33

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Originally Posted by Cozy Amnesia View Post

Ok what about oxymorphone?

Oxymorphone (Opana) is MUCH MORE potent than Hydromorphone (Dilaudid).

I've never tried Oxymorphone (Opana) before, but if it's as good as I hear, it could be a new favorite. Definitely get your hands on some IF you can! I hear different things about the instant release and extended release, so do your research, one may gel up (Extended release one maybe; or perhaps the instant release one, or it may be as easy as crushing, mixing with a sterile solution, filtering and banging; I'm really not sure... sorry!).

Search for the info! It's out there! I was just on BL reading a thread about it and how good everyone was saying it is and how it BLOWS Hydromorphone (Dilaudid) out of the water (As far as rush/euphoria and length and everything else; it just seems to be harder to find since I believe it is a fairly new drug and prescribed in more rare occasions like Fentanyl (Duragesic) is/used to be).

It seems oral bioavailability is ONLY 10% (Nasal/snorting bioavailability is close to 50% though, if you aren't into injecting shit), very low, like Morphine... which is why hospitals inject Oxymorphone, they only do it in 1mg increments; where the Opana ER tabs come in strengths of up to 40mg; which technically means if you were to swallow x1 of the 40mg ER pills, ONLY 4mg would actually be used/absorbed by your body, which is why banging the shit is the way to go (Anything IV'ed is 199% bioavailable, meaning you get ALL the medicine, 100% of it, not 10%).

For your first time, go no higher than 5-10mg to get a feel for it (When banging the shit; though if you have a tolerance, you can try up to 20mg your first time and go from there; to be safe!)

From Wikipedia.org - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Opana :

"Opana® is available as 5 mg and 10 mg tablets; Opana ER, an extended-release form of oxymorphone, is available as tablets in strengths of 5 mg, 7½ mg, 10 mg, 15 mg, 20 mg, 30 mg, and 40 mg. Opana® Extended-Release tablets are based on the TIMERx® system developed by a consortium led by Endo and Penwest. In addition to the sustained-release version for Opana®, other versions of TIMERx® are available and being developed for other protocols such as decreasing dose delivery over time, single and multiple bursts of medication, and combinations of the above. The immediate-release tablets contain ingredients that turn the tablet into a blob so a marginal extended-release effect can be seen in some cases where they can provide analgesic effects for up to six hours and take up to an hour to reach full effect; patients may need Numorphan® ampoules or immediate-release formulations of hydromorphone or morphine for breakthrough pain incidents which are already in progress; an oxymorphone nasal spray is reportedly in development, along with a possible hydromorphone nasal spray and implantable osmotic pumps for both drugs.

Oxymorphone is also produced within the human body when the liver metabolises oxycodone by means of O demethylation; approximately 10 per cent of the dose is processed by the endocrine system in this respect. The codeine-hydrocodone group and morphinans exhibit the same characteristics."

Hope that helps! Please be careful if you get a hold of any, as I said, IT IS VERY POTENT!

Take care and be safe!

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Piles Of Crack · #9 2008-08-24, 00:12

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Originally Posted by acexnx316 View Post

oxy pretty much IS heroin, just in a synthetic pill form and no starch or baby laxatives included!

Thanks for including this, it made it easier for me to discredit everything you're babbling about and skip over the rest of your post.

acexnx316 · #10 2008-08-24, 03:17

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Originally Posted by Piles Of Crack View Post

Thanks for including this, it made it easier for me to discredit everything you're babbling about and skip over the rest of your post.

Okay, okay...

You got me! I admit!

Sometimes pills DO CONTAIN starch [as well as wax, gelatin, titanium, coloring and just about any other filler and binder], but NOT baby laxatives, unless they were meant for that purpose only...

Some people have different opinions on what's safer to shoot; street drugs that have been stomped on more than grapes at Martha's Vineyard with who knows what [that you are putting in your body directly through your blood stream] OR pills that are meant to be taken orally (99% of the time anyway) that are also about 99% of the time known to be as close to sterile as possible (Depending on how they are handled, cleaned and prepared); however, the downfall is the binders and fillers, which most of that can be filtered out through micro-filtering, but still, it's up in the air to debate; in the long run, which is SAFER or does LESS DAMAGE.

And at least here, Oxycontin is called hillbilly heroin" because, yes it is basically synthetic heroin in a pill. Have you done any research to prove me otherwise? ?Have you even compared Diacetyl Morphine [or even Morphine's] chemical chains to see that they are practically identical?

Anyway, that is all on this topic, I'm pretty sure everyone is entitled to their own opinion and everyone who wanted to, has had the chance to do so in this post. So unless the OP has/had any other questions about the topic, the thread is easily qualifies to be closed; the question can't really be answered, as said, in the end, everyone has their own opinion and each may have a different answer as to what rush/euphoria of what chemical/pill/drug they enjoy most. I know some people both around here and other states who IV CWE'ed Hydrocodone and 30mg Codeine pills (The ones without Acetaminophen that are instant release, Codeisan) at about 150-200mg at a time and would take either over Heroin, Hydromorphone, Oxycodone, Oxymorphone or pretty much anything else. It just all depends on one's opinion and body chemistry.

Take care and be safe!

ONE.