two things about weed im hearing im unsure if i should believe. dispel or back these myths/truths.


A) smoking a cigarette after weed magically boosts your high about 30%.

B) the resin that collects in the roach of the joint gets you higher when smoked than the whole joint does.

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A) smoking a cigarette after weed magically boosts your high about 30%.

How do you figure an exact percent? and all it does is get you lightheaded while your loaded.

B) the resin that collects in the roach of the joint gets you higher when smoked than the whole joint does.

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It gets a little more potent because of the thc left in the resin, but I don't like to smoke resin.

A) I'd say it depends on your tolerance to nicotine. If you only smoke once in a while, yeah you'll get "higher".
Me and my friends usually smoke a cig after a session though anyway, though I can't say it does much.
Personally, sometimes I'll wait after getting high to smoke a cig... to me, like with chron, if I smoke a cig too soon it kinda kills my high.

B) Yes yes and yes, the roach is the best part. Ever heard of a 2nd generation joint? Save up some roaches, and roll em up as one single joint. You could then save THAT roach, make more of them, and make 3rd 4th 5th etc generation joints. :D

It seems to me that most of the "resin" on the end of the joint is actually saliva.

Smokig tobacco does not make the high any different.

Resin is concentrated THC, just like hash and hash oil - only not as refined. So of course it'll make you higher [but it also doesn't last as long either].

You be ignorant as all get out. Please tell me how 'concentrated THC' molecules don't last as long any other THC molecules. OOOOOhs, btw, that 'THC' you speak of is actually more like CBD and other oxidized cannabinoids. LOLZ LERNS SUM CHEMISSTREE!!!

EDIT: Nicotine will have an effect on the high, too. You see, little Meta, your 'high' is the overall state of your neurotransmitter pathway activity. If you affect it, your perception of reality is affected. E.g. Ever take a hallucinogen and then smoke weed? Gets a little (read: alot) different, yes? Well, you just affected your 'high.'
HMMMMMMMMMMMMMM......... Let's think then, shall we? Will smoking a cig make my high intensify, as if I had smoked more pot (the OP's question)? Maybe, but probably not. Will my high be affected in some way? YES.

Cigarettes only have an effect if you are not a cigarette smoker. Non-smokers will get a head rush and body high if they smoke a cigarette. Added on top of being high from pot, it's a very pleasant combo. But it's only a combo, not an enhancement. Most non-smokers will get nauseated if they smoke a whole cigarette, which isn't much of an enhancement at all.

Resin isn't any stronger than the weed that made it, but it is more concentrated, so it takes less hits to get high.

They're not really myths, just misinterpreted truths. Resin isn't magically strong, and cigarettes aren't any different than they normally would be when you're stoned.

You be ignorant as all get out. Please tell me how 'concentrated THC' molecules don't last as long any other THC molecules. OOOOOhs, btw, that 'THC' you speak of is actually more like CBD and other oxidized cannabinoids. LOLZ LERNS SUM CHEMISSTREE!!!

EDIT: Nicotine will have an effect on the high, too. You see, little Meta, your 'high' is the overall state of your neurotransmitter pathway activity. If you affect it, your perception of reality is affected. E.g. Ever take a hallucinogen and then smoke weed? Gets a little (read: alot) different, yes? Well, you just affected your 'high.'
HMMMMMMMMMMMMMM......... Let's think then, shall we? Will smoking a cig make my high intensify, as if I had smoked more pot (the OP's question)? Maybe, but probably not. Will my high be affected in some way? YES.

Wow. First time I remember seeing Meta just be wrong, and he gets this. For some reason, I'm not surprised.

How you would have answered if you weren't a prick:

The real answer is that smoking a cig after pot won't do shit if you normally smoke. If you don't, you're just getting a nicotine buzz along with the pot. You can get high on just a cigarette. For a couple minutes, anyway.

The roach is more potent than fresh pot, because it has CBD, CBN and some of the lesser cannabanoids in it, as well as the pot that contains THC. Resin actually has very little THC because the heat of a joint or blunt is hot enough to destroy any that's there. CBD and CBN aren't as sensitive.

You be ignorant as all get out. Please tell me how 'concentrated THC' molecules don't last as long any other THC molecules. OOOOOhs, btw, that 'THC' you speak of is actually more like CBD and other oxidized cannabinoids. LOLZ LERNS SUM CHEMISSTREE!!!


THC vapor solidifies on contact with solid materials as it passes through any smoking device or joint. That's why bongs are shown to be less efficient in the MAPS research, because the cool water causes the vapor to solidify more quickly and by solidify, I mean it becomes sticky, and it's mixed with lots of other things, I think that's maybe what he meant by resin. It's more like a nasty goopy tar. I think for whatever reason, THC is not going to last as long in this goo form in a pipe, longer in a roach for some reason. Maybe because it's more likely to oxidize this way. But I've noticed resin from potent weed will be pretty potent and euphoric

Weed from roaches has a higher THC content due to the above reasons but it also has more carcinogens. Some people prefer joints rolled with roaches. Roaches being the end of the joint, which is just paper and bud. In the UK the roach might have cardboard in it, they do weird things with their weed.

If you've got access to good potent weed with a really good flavor and was properly cured, your roaches will have a lot of THC but not nearly as many carcinogens, and they'll have an increased flavor. It'll be enhanced, but not exactly the same.

What I mean is instead of a nasty black or redish goo, you'll get this honey-like goo, sweet and delicious. Not dark at all. I enjoy taking one of these great roaches and rolling it with fresh weed. Even a joint entirely of these roaches will have an excellent flavor.

Well i have to disagree. After smoking some weed and then smoking a cig i get a slight buzz increase for a couple minutes. But then it fades. I have been smoking weed and cigarettes since i was 13 about a pack and a half a day. And people i know do say it affects their high a little.

I wouldn't say the resin will get your higher than the joint itself. But it is obviously stronger to roll a second gen joint vs a regular joint.

You are getting a small dopamine release from the nicotine when you have a durry, so yeah, technically you are marginally higher than you would be had you not smoked the cigarette, however it isn't going to last for any great deal of time.

Your roach contains marijuana that has been resinated, like the resin that builds up in your CP as you smoke, so yeah, it is a stronger smoke but it has nothing to do with the thc content of the marijuana in the joint magically rising, it's simply due to the presence of thc resin in addition the the marijuana that you rolled.

You be ignorant as all get out. Please tell me how 'concentrated THC' molecules don't last as long any other THC molecules. OOOOOhs, btw, that 'THC' you speak of is actually more like CBD and other oxidized cannabinoids. LOLZ LERNS SUM CHEMISSTREE!!!

EDIT: Nicotine will have an effect on the high, too. You see, little Meta, your 'high' is the overall state of your neurotransmitter pathway activity. If you affect it, your perception of reality is affected. E.g. Ever take a hallucinogen and then smoke weed? Gets a little (read: alot) different, yes? Well, you just affected your 'high.'
HMMMMMMMMMMMMMM......... Let's think then, shall we? Will smoking a cig make my high intensify, as if I had smoked more pot (the OP's question)? Maybe, but probably not. Will my high be affected in some way? YES.

WTF. If your a noob to smoking pot and/or cigs you may get a little light headed but overall smoking a cig doesn't effect it. So i'll go with Meta with the answer No...except I would add "not generally"

Which is why any seasoned pot smoke isn't scrambling for their menthol cigs like some 16 year old stoner chick right after she's done smoking a joint. Smoking a cig after smoking pot actually makes me feel like shit..so I wouldn't go as far as to say it potentiates a god damn thing.

smoking a cig makes me more sober on weed

cigarettes dont boost ur high, they just give ur high alot of good lightheaded entertainment. its kinda like music, doesnt boost, just a great entertainer. great combo

A. cigs make more blood flow throw your body so if theres more thc getting to your brain then.......

B. It will be stronger but not that much stronger. You could like go at it myth busters stile and extract the thc from a joint and a roach and you know compare them to find out if you really wanted to know.

A. cigs make more blood flow throw your body so if theres more thc getting to your brain then.......

Actually, tobacco and cannabis both contain vasoconstrictors, reducing blood flow, though tobacco has a greater vasoconstriction effect and some strains of cannabis have a vasodilation effect.


B. It will be stronger but not that much stronger. Depends on the strain and how it was prepared as well. Certain strains produce stronger roaches, compared to bud of equal potency of a different strain. I don't think anyone will be able to explain any of this any time soon.

And I don't think you'll find any scientific evidence of tobacco enhancing the high from weed. The main reason people started mixing weed with tobacco was to help the weed burn because a lot of dumbasses don't know how to buy properly cured weed that'll burn well.



You were probably just spewing bullshit so someone like me would waste their time correcting it. Well I'm done correcting stuff for a while, I'll just leave the retardation and bullshit to spread. I think there's a conspiracy here.

A. Nah, cigs shrink the blood vessels and makes the blood have a harder time flowing through the body. That's why people who have diabetes (who are at risk for blindness due to the constriction of blood vessels in the eyes) and even more at risk if they smoke..which does the same thing.

Edit: Above poster beat me to it. Arse.

Ya i droped the ball there.

Nah I didn't know that until I got Diabetes..mainly because I never really cared :)

Wow. First time I remember seeing Meta just be wrong, and he gets this. For some reason, I'm not surprised.

How you would have answered if you weren't a prick:

The real answer is that smoking a cig after pot won't do shit if you normally smoke. If you don't, you're just getting a nicotine buzz along with the pot. You can get high on just a cigarette. For a couple minutes, anyway.

The roach is more potent than fresh pot, because it has CBD, CBN and some of the lesser cannabanoids in it, as well as the pot that contains THC. Resin actually has very little THC because the heat of a joint or blunt is hot enough to destroy any that's there. CBD and CBN aren't as sensitive.

lolz, equally ignorant and, please, get off meta's cock.

What if it was your first cig of the day, hmm? Frequent tobacco users generally report getting a buzz from the first cigarette of the day. Afterwards is maintaining addiction, or rather, maintaining an even keel. i.e. going without would make them feel bad. Anyway, smoking does affect your overall mental state, so, yes, smoking tobacco affects you after smoking pot... lulz

Secondly, what do you mean by roaches being more 'potent'? Do you mean because it is concentrated is has more of an effect more quickly, or that it gets you 'high' easier? Need I remind you that different pot has different ratios of cannabinoids, which result in different 'highs'? And, yes, while alot of the cannabinoids are destroyed by heat, it's not that certain cannabinoids are 'saved,' but rather, like if you left THC exposed to light or oxygen, they are converted to CBD, etc.

Agains, yous nose noteing.

THC vapor solidifies on contact with solid materials as it passes through any smoking device or joint. That's why bongs are shown to be less efficient in the MAPS research, because the cool water causes the vapor to solidify more quickly and by solidify, I mean it becomes sticky, and it's mixed with lots of other things, I think that's maybe what he meant by resin. It's more like a nasty goopy tar. I think for whatever reason, THC is not going to last as long in this goo form in a pipe, longer in a roach for some reason. Maybe because it's more likely to oxidize this way. But I've noticed resin from potent weed will be pretty potent and euphoric

Weed from roaches has a higher THC content due to the above reasons but it also has more carcinogens. Some people prefer joints rolled with roaches. Roaches being the end of the joint, which is just paper and bud. In the UK the roach might have cardboard in it, they do weird things with their weed.

If you've got access to good potent weed with a really good flavor and was properly cured, your roaches will have a lot of THC but not nearly as many carcinogens, and they'll have an increased flavor. It'll be enhanced, but not exactly the same.

What I mean is instead of a nasty black or redish goo, you'll get this honey-like goo, sweet and delicious. Not dark at all. I enjoy taking one of these great roaches and rolling it with fresh weed. Even a joint entirely of these roaches will have an excellent flavor.

Potent weed = potent tar, hmmmmmm shocker of the century, i know.... And, wow, smoking hydrocarbons is inherently more carcinogenic? Thank you for such a revelation... However, guess what! Roaches don't have more THC than weed! You see, you smoked all dat dem dhere THC de first time, or is resin suddenly a magical transformative process? There's less of everything in the resin, unless you are counting percentage by volume, even though I somehow doubt that statement as well.

And, how do you come to the idea that THC lasts an longer in a roach than a pipe? That's just ignorance right there.

Again, the pyrolytic compounds will be just as prevalent in the roaches of good bud, as that of schwag. You are wrong. Maybe your joints are smaller (good bud = less needed), and they probably will be more potent overall, but you'll still have about as much resin, gram for gram of weed.

lolz, equally ignorant and, please, get off meta's cock.

What if it was your first cig of the day, hmm? Frequent tobacco users generally report getting a buzz from the first cigarette of the day. Afterwards is maintaining addiction, or rather, maintaining an even keel. i.e. going without would make them feel bad. Anyway, smoking does affect your overall mental state, so, yes, smoking tobacco affects you after smoking pot... lulz


Why is it when someone agrees with Meta they're automatically "On his dick" or brown nosing? How long have you been smoking cigs? I sure as fuck don't get any kind of effect from smoking a cig...and if it does affect me it's just by causing my lungs to ache. So as I already stated..maybe it has an effect on your overall high if your NEW to either smoking pot or smoking cigs. Otherwise it generally does not.

Roaches don't have more THC than weed!


So we're just hallucinating when we smoke a joint rolled from roaches, and it gets us higher? No, we're not hallucinating and it isn't a placebo, you just happen to be a 12 year old trying to look intelligent in a forum, that hasn't ever smoked weed, so you wouldn't know these things. The ones that are hallucinating are the ones saying tobacco enhances their weed. Or perhaps they need to get better weed if they need tobacco to attempt to enhance it. With good weed, one should only notice the flavor of the tobacco and the usual shitty buzz won't even be noticable, because the weed's high overwhelms it. This isn't actually enhancing anything, it just makes people look like homosexual.s Which isn't really such a bad thing.

If someone were to put a roach into a gas chromatograph, compare it to the same weight of fresh weed, the roach is going to have more thc, as long as it isn't really old.


And, how do you come to the idea that THC lasts an longer in a roach than a pipe? That's just ignorance right there.
If you start smoking it one day you might notice the same thing.




Again, the pyrolytic compounds will be just as prevalent in the roaches of good bud, as that of schwag. You are wrong. Maybe your joints are smaller (good bud = less needed), and they probably will be more potent overall, but you'll still have about as much resin, gram for gram of weed.
You can't be too bright if you're going to say this without ever experiencing good bud (let alone any bud) that doesn't build up as much nasty tar and mostly just builds up flavor and good cannabinoids, such as thc, compared to equally potent bud which happens to build up more nasty tar.


......Anyway, I think it's you that wants metas cock. You and your cyber butt buddies e-ganging up on a moderator because he hurt your feelings LOL you really just want his cock. And you need to learn better english before posting here. It's either that you need to learn better english, or you're just trying to seem like a retarded 12 year old foreigner trying to look smart when you're really another member and this is your troll account. Though the theory of you wanting metas cock is good.

Resin actually has very little THC because the heat of a joint or blunt is hot enough to destroy any that's there. CBD and CBN aren't as sensitive.

Why don't you look at the percentage MAPS came up with of THC lost in the joint before trying to look smart? A significant amount of THC is added to the roach from the weed that was smoked in the joint to create the roach.You children are arguing with scientific research, which is completely stupid. Maybe you're just part of this conspiracy to spread bullshit and waste people's time. Nevermind, no reason to respond to you anymore.

Why is it when someone agrees with Meta they're automatically "On his dick" or brown nosing? How long have you been smoking cigs? I sure as fuck don't get any kind of effect from smoking a cig...and if it does affect me it's just by causing my lungs to ache. So as I already stated..maybe it has an effect on your overall high if your NEW to either smoking pot or smoking cigs. Otherwise it generally does not.

So, can you read? I already addressed this. Smoking cigs have an affect on you. See what you feel like if you don't smoke cigs for a day. Yeah, that's right. They are affecting you by keeping in a mental state, not necessarily putting you up somewhere. That's the point. Even maintenance is an effect. BTW, i used to smoke a pack a day, until I started coughing up blood. Makes you lose that habit, fast.

So we're just hallucinating when we smoke a joint rolled from roaches, and it gets us higher? No, we're not hallucinating and it isn't a placebo, you just happen to be a 12 year old trying to look intelligent in a forum, that hasn't ever smoked weed, so you wouldn't know these things. The ones that are hallucinating are the ones saying tobacco enhances their weed. Or perhaps they need to get better weed if they need tobacco to attempt to enhance it. With good weed, one should only notice the flavor of the tobacco and the usual shitty buzz won't even be noticable, because the weed's high overwhelms it. This isn't actually enhancing anything, it just makes people look like homosexual.s Which isn't really such a bad thing.

Well, of course, smoking a gram of resin to a gram of bud are drastically different, as resin has more cannabinoids per volume. And, again, if you took the time to read my original reply, tobacco will effect your 'high' (i.e. your mental state, whether you've smoked pot or not), but it probably won't make you feel like you smoked more than you did. See? Not so hard to read. Also, try reversing your digits there.

If someone were to put a roach into a gas chromatograph, compare it to the same weight of fresh weed, the roach is going to have more thc, as long as it isn't really old.
Again, roaches have less cannabinoids than the weed that it was originally. If you can't accept that, then you believe in magic.

If you start smoking marijuana one day you might notice the same thing.

You can't be too bright if you're going to say this without ever experiencing good bud (let alone any bud) that doesn't build up as much nasty tar and mostly just builds up flavor and good cannabinoids, such as thc, compared to equally potent bud which happens to build up more nasty tar.

lolz, when you burn organic matter it becomes hydrocarbons, and resinous (tar) in the case of bud (duh, because of the resin). So, no, when you burn good bud, it doesn't magically become hash oil, it gets black and tarry.

......Anyway, I think it's you that wants metas cock. You and your cyber butt buddies e-ganging up on a moderator because he hurt your feelings LOL you really just want his cock. And you need to learn better english before posting here. It's either that you need to learn better english, or you're just trying to seem like a retarded 12 year old foreigner trying to look smart when you're really another member and this is your troll account. Though the theory of you wanting metas cock is good.

Troll account, yeah...

Anyway, people with broken necks don't give good bjs, so meta is of no interest to me. The fact is, as a moderator, he should be held to a higher standard, and his stupid ass can't even get a simple question right.

Why don't you look at the percentage MAPS came up with of THC lost in the joint before trying to look smart? A significant amount of THC is added to the roach from the weed that was smoked in the joint to create the roach.You children are arguing with scientific research, which is completely stupid. Maybe you're just part of this conspiracy to spread bullshit and waste people's time. Nevermind, no reason to respond to you anymore.

I'm not arguing with scientific research, in fact, with blunts and joints, most of those cannabinoids go up in smoke, quite literally. That's why only niggers smoke joints and blunts, then are a waste of weed.

EDIT: To the OP (consensus of what I have said, and the truth):

No one can dare disagree with me on these answers, as science is firmly on my side.

A) smoking a cigarette after weed magically boosts your high about 30%.

It won't give you the illusion of having smoked better/more weed, but it will alter your state if you aren't used to smoking cigs, or maintain it if you are a smoker.

B) the resin that collects in the roach of the joint gets you hig

A) smoking a cigarette after weed magically boosts your high about 30%.

It won't give you the illusion of having smoked better/more weed, but it will alter your state if you aren't used to smoking cigs, or maintain it if you are a smoker.

B) the resin that collects in the roach of the joint gets you hig

In my opinion smoking a cig doesn't fucking BOOST anything unless your NEW TO SMOKING AND STILL GET THE HEAD RUSH. You've used the word effect in a few places and then at the end of your post where you convey your opinion you use the word BOOST. Which is it? The term BOOST implies an improvement..which I totally disagree with..but if you are saying it effects your high (even if in a detrimental way) then I can see your point.

As far as the joint being more potent after being smoked I could really care less. If it is then it isn't noticeable enough to make such a big deal about it. After you've smoked pot for around 8 1/2 years it all starts to run together..I just smoke the shit and get on with it.

I do agree that smoking blunts is pointless and wasteful and don't really understand why people insist on doing it..but I also don't give a fuck because they aren't smoking my pot when they do it..so what's the fucking difference right?

Yes, listen to him. He has years of drug used tucked under his belt. Of course he could eat an elephant tranquilizer and say seconds please so take his opinions with a grain of salt.

Personally though, smoking a cig will give me a little boost or rushy feeling when I'm really baked, it won't make me feel higher from the weed overall, it's just like a catalyst to the high.

Resin is the chemicals in the weed formed from ignition cooling off when they hit a cool(er) surface i.e. The rest of the joint, the walls of a pipe or bong, and your lungs. The tar like substance will form and passing smoke will then be caught by it, forming more and more resin like a flycatcher catches flies. It's probably not too much like licking a frozen metal pole though.

You have to take my opinions with a grain of salt too, because I'm talking out of my ass for the most part.

The only reason it may seem to 'boost' the high is because you'll have a short nicotine buzz on top of being stoned.

Cuban, all I can say is that you are a fucking moron. You can spew all the shit you want, but I was basing what I said on 26 years of smoking pot and cigs, and the friends who have smoked both nearly as long.

Cigs do not add in any significant way - unless, as has been said, you are a noob to either.

And resin is more concentrated and so more potent ounce per ounce. And I can't tell you why it doesn't last as long, but it doesn't.

No amount of you quoting anything can change my - and everyone I know who smokes - experience[s].

Well, though many people said that cigarettes do nothing to your high if you're a regular smoker, I don't think that's true. If I've smoked weed and I want the high to last longer, I just smoke a cig about every 30 minutes and I feel a lot higher. Definitely not a nicotine buzz as I'm what one would consider a "heavy" smoker.

Maybe it's placebo, I don't know, cigs are good for getting your high back.

This. Thread. Fails.

Um, HELLLOOLOLOLLOL? Can no one read?

I NEVER said that cigs intensify a weed high as though you'd smoked more pot! I just said that it will affect you, just like if you taken another drug with your pot. Also, let's say you are an alcoholic and like to be mildly buzzed all the time. Well, if you don't have that drink you feel bad, but if you keep up your addiction, you keep a mild buzz (maintenance). So, once again, even maintenance is an effect. I NEVER said that tobacco will induce a feeling of marijuana use. UH DUH

And, if you'd taken the time to read, i already said that by weight/volume, resin is more potent. Are you a fucking retard? Perhaps it doesn't last as long because the composition of the cannabinoids in the resin is shifted to CBD, CBN, etc...

Man, before you make a post, 'refuting' my arguments, maybe you should know what I was arguing in the first place.

I just realized that the post length cut off my ending points:

EDIT: To the OP (consensus of what I have said, and the truth):

No one can dare disagree with me on these answers, as science is firmly on my side.

A) smoking a cigarette after weed magically boosts your high about 30%.

It won't give you the illusion of having smoked better/more weed, but it will alter your state if you aren't used to smoking cigs, or maintain it if you are a smoker.

B) the resin that collects in the roach of the joint gets you higher than the joint itself

Let's use an example: A cereal box. The cereal dust at the bottom is mostly sugar, so it tastes sweet and is by weight more sugar than the cereal. But, the original box had more sugar in it in total, until you ate it. So, the remanents of your joint won't get you higher than the original joint, even though the resin is more potent BY WEIGHT/VOLUME. It's impossible for the leftovers to have more cannabinoids than what was first in the joint.

lolz, equally ignorant and, please, get off meta's cock.

OK, buddy believe what you like. I'm not on Meta's cock, as you say, but I think he's right on this one, for the most part. You know, if I didn't like the moderators of a forum, and especially the most prevalant one, I'd LEAVE. That doesn't happen on BLTC for some reason, though. People would rather bitch and be annoyed all the time than find another board. Try HipForums. The mods there, IMO, are fucking slackers.

What if it was your first cig of the day, hmm? Frequent tobacco users generally report getting a buzz from the first cigarette of the day. Afterwards is maintaining addiction, or rather, maintaining an even keel. i.e. going without would make them feel bad. Anyway, smoking does affect your overall mental state, so, yes, smoking tobacco affects you after smoking pot... lulz

I don't ever get a nicotine buzz anymore. Not when I wake up, even. I smoke rollies.

Yes, it does affect you! You're so smart, figuring out that psychoactive drugs, such as nicotine, have an effect on your brain. However, it has not a goddamn thing to do with the pot you're smoking. That's like saying that taking Tylenol will make you higher. It's gonna have an effect, but it's its own effect. If you shot heroin after smoking, it'd affect you, too.

Secondly, what do you mean by roaches being more 'potent'? Do you mean because it is concentrated is has more of an effect more quickly, or that it gets you 'high' easier? Need I remind you that different pot has different ratios of cannabinoids, which result in different 'highs'? And, yes, while alot of the cannabinoids are destroyed by heat, it's not that certain cannabinoids are 'saved,' but rather, like if you left THC exposed to light or oxygen, they are converted to CBD, etc.

Agains, yous nose noteing.

So prove it. I don't have evidence to back it up, but I can attest to the fact that, gram for gram, resin is more potent than pot. You can go hit-by-hit, too. It's just a different (and probably less healthy) high.

Potent weed = potent tar, hmmmmmm shocker of the century, i know.... And, wow, smoking hydrocarbons is inherently more carcinogenic? Thank you for such a revelation... However, guess what! Roaches don't have more THC than weed! You see, you smoked all dat dem dhere THC de first time, or is resin suddenly a magical transformative process? There's less of everything in the resin, unless you are counting percentage by volume, even though I somehow doubt that statement as well.

Lol, wut? So you're saying that the resin is gonna have less cannabanoids than the pot it came from? WTF? Of course. The pot only has so much to give. The resin you're left with is more concentrated. If you're not measuring potency by the gram, how the fuck are you measuring? Degrees Celcius?

And just for one last little kink in your plan, THC vaporizes at about 400 degrees F. CBD is about 150 and CBN is near 365. What happens is that the CBD and CBN boil and evaporate before the plant matter burns and the THC vaporizes. It gets sucked through the joint, and as it cools, deposits itself on the roach. The THC gets vaporized at the burning temp of the joint (not sure what that is, I'm sure it varies) and since the THC has to be so hot, it deposits not far behind what's burning. As soon as the cherry catches up, that THC is vaporized and/or converted to CBD, which is again left in your resin.

So you can suck on my balls. If you wanna look this shit up, go for it. You're not gonna change my mind without some damn good proof.

No one can dare disagree with me on these answers, as science is firmly on my side.

Well my, ain't we the arrogant one?

Me think I do dare argue with you, and not just because you're a raging smeghead either.

A) smoking a cigarette after weed magically boosts your high about 30%.

Bullshit.

Period.

It won't give you the illusion of having smoked better/more weed, but it will alter your state if you aren't used to smoking cigs, or maintain it if you are a smoker.

Yes, yes, we've already established that.

B) the resin that collects in the roach of the joint gets you higher than the joint itself

Let's use an example: A cereal box. The cereal dust at the bottom is mostly sugar, so it tastes sweet and is by weight more sugar than the cereal. But, the original box had more sugar in it in total, until you ate it. So, the remanents of your joint won't get you higher than the original joint, even though the resin is more potent BY WEIGHT/VOLUME. It's impossible for the leftovers to have more cannabinoids than what was first in the joint.

That may be true if it is a new pipe and you only smoked one type of weed in it.

But in the real world that just doesn't happen. What does happen is that many different types of weed are smoked in the pipe before there's enough resin - or the person is out of weed and desperate enough to want to smoke the resin.

That resin will be the sum of all the types smoked in it up to this point. So while it obviously can't get you higher than the best of the pot you used, it will be better than any of the lesser of the potent types.

I have noticed many a time that the resin I smoked would get me higher than the weed I last smoked in it.

Once again, you can spout what science says all you want. But if it doesn't jive with mine and all others I know who have the experience to say, then it is just not correct.

I NEVER said that cigs intensify a weed high as though you'd smoked more pot!



Dude, you just fucking quoted the part where you insist (considering you call it FACT) that smoking a cig BOOSTS your high by 30%. If you aren't insisting that it alters the weed high in a positive way (AKA Intensify: To make more acute: To strengthen or sharpen) then stop insisting that it's BOOSTED by smoking a cig. That's all i'm trying to get through to you.


I don't ever get a nicotine buzz anymore. Not when I wake up, even. I smoke rollies.

Yes, it does affect you! You're so smart, figuring out that psychoactive drugs, such as nicotine, have an effect on your brain. However, it has not a goddamn thing to do with the pot you're smoking. That's like saying that taking Tylenol will make you higher. It's gonna have an effect, but it's its own effect. If you shot heroin after smoking, it'd affect you, too.


Exactly. I don't get a nicotine buzz anymore either..nor have I in about 6 fucking years.

Can a roach get you higher than a joint?

Use some simple logic. A roach is part of a joint. A part of a joint can't get you higher than a whole joint.

This quote below

"the resin that collects in the roach of the joint gets you higher when smoked than the whole joint does"

would be untrue,

but a joint rolled from roaches is likely to be more potent than a joint rolled from fresh bud, that's what I've been saying. I just wanted to clear that up..... People had been implying that there wasn't more THC in a roach than in an equal amount of fresh bud, which I don't agree with. I wasn't even going to respond to the topic starters "myths" because they're fucking retarded.

If you're going by the combined highs, I agree. I find it takes away from the ultra pleasentness of weed.

It does relax you a bit more(as in you still get the nicotine effects) and you will get lightheaded if you don't smoke.

It's exactly how you think it'd be, weed + cig = weed high + tobacco high, which does not = 2weed / more highness of the weed variety.

what ever you get it.

EDIT: Oh, and yeah.. smoking weed that's covered in resin gets you more stoned.

If you're going by the combined highs, I agree. I find it takes away from the ultra pleasentness of weed.

It does relax you a bit more(as in you still get the nicotine effects) and you will get lightheaded if you don't smoke.



That's basically what i've been saying. If anything smoking a cig (for me) is detrimental to the overall effects of pot because I'm far beyond the point of getting a nicobuzz from smoking a cig. and have been for a good 6 years now.

Apparently reading is only my strength.

Yes, it does affect you! You're so smart, figuring out that psychoactive drugs, such as nicotine, have an effect on your brain. However, it has not a goddamn thing to do with the pot you're smoking. That's like saying that taking Tylenol will make you higher. It's gonna have an effect, but it's its own effect. If you shot heroin after smoking, it'd affect you, too.

Yep, already established that it affects you. I never said that boosts your high, you fucking illiterate piece of shit.

http://www.totse.com/community/showpost.php?p=10393887&postcount=6

So prove it. I don't have evidence to back it up, but I can attest to the fact that, gram for gram, resin is more potent than pot. You can go hit-by-hit, too. It's just a different (and probably less healthy) high.

Lol, wut? So you're saying that the resin is gonna have less cannabanoids than the pot it came from? WTF? Of course. The pot only has so much to give. The resin you're left with is more concentrated. If you're not measuring potency by the gram, how the fuck are you measuring? Degrees Celcius?

And just for one last little kink in your plan, THC vaporizes at about 400 degrees F. CBD is about 150 and CBN is near 365. What happens is that the CBD and CBN boil and evaporate before the plant matter burns and the THC vaporizes. It gets sucked through the joint, and as it cools, deposits itself on the roach. The THC gets vaporized at the burning temp of the joint (not sure what that is, I'm sure it varies) and since the THC has to be so hot, it deposits not far behind what's burning. As soon as the cherry catches up, that THC is vaporized and/or converted to CBD, which is again left in your resin..

I ALREADY said that resin is more potent because it has more cannabinoids per volume, i.e. it is more densely cannabinoids.
Second response down:
http://www.totse.com/community/showpost.php?p=10394992&postcount=23

Well my, ain't we the arrogant one?

Me think I do dare argue with you, and not just because you're a raging smeghead either.

Don't be mad at me cause I had to set you straight.

Bullshit.

Period.

Yep, I already said that it was bullshit here:
http://www.totse.com/community/showpost.php?p=10393887&postcount=6
Will smoking a cig make my high intensify, as if I had smoked more pot (the OP's question)? Maybe, but probably not. Will my high be affected in some way? YES.

Yes, yes, we've already established that.

Like here? ;)
http://www.totse.com/community/showpost.php?p=10394992&postcount=23

That may be true if it is a new pipe and you only smoked one type of weed in it.

But in the real world that just doesn't happen. What does happen is that many different types of weed are smoked in the pipe before there's enough resin - or the person is out of weed and desperate enough to want to smoke the resin.

That resin will be the sum of all the types smoked in it up to this point. So while it obviously can't get you higher than the best of the pot you used, it will be better than any of the lesser of the potent types.

I have noticed many a time that the resin I smoked would get me higher than the weed I last smoked in it.

Once again, you can spout what science says all you want. But if it doesn't jive with mine and all others I know who have the experience to say, then it is just not correct.

Wow, so over many bowls resin collects and you smoke it and it gets you higher than a bowl? W-W-WOW!!! COULDN'T FIGURE THAT OUT!!!

My points:

1. Cigs won't boost your high. NEVER CLAIMED THAT. They will, however, have an effect on your high. A more convincing example is LSD won't boost your high, but it will affect your high. The problem being a 'high' isn't just an effect by a chemical. A high is the sum total of your brain cell structures and the characteristics of the neurotransmitter pathways. You mean by 'high', I think, marijuana's effect on you. Obviously nicotine isn't THC, but it will have a separate effect on those structures/pathways which will change your 'high'.
2. Resin from a joint won't get you higher than the joint, obviously. A joint made of resin is more potent because resin is more potent by weight/volume, because it is more densely cannabinoids. Remember density equals weight over volume.

So, you're saying that I said things I never said. I have perrrrr---oooff. If you took the time to read and understand, there'd be no problem.

Dude, you just fucking quoted the part where you insist (considering you call it FACT) that smoking a cig BOOSTS your high by 30%. If you aren't insisting that it alters the weed high in a positive way (AKA Intensify: To make more acute: To strengthen or sharpen) then stop insisting that it's BOOSTED by smoking a cig. That's all i'm trying to get through to you.



Exactly. I don't get a nicotine buzz anymore either..nor have I in about 6 fucking years.

Ever heard of context, motherfucker. I was quoting the op so I could make a direct response. I wasn't saying it's true, as the statement of it boosting the high is directly contradicted by my response.

If you don't get a buzz, why do you smoke? Because it maintains you. It is maintaining an effect. It is giving you a constant buzz. It's not elevating. It's keeping you from falling. UGH SO DUMB YOU ARE

Will smoking a cig make my high intensify, as if I had smoked more pot (the OP's question)? Maybe, but probably not. Will my high be affected in some way? YES.

Ever heard of context, motherfucker. I was quoting the op so I could make a direct response. I wasn't saying it's true, as the statement of it boosting the high is directly contradicted by my response.

If you don't get a buzz, why do you smoke? Because it maintains you. It is maintaining an effect. It is giving you a constant buzz. It's not elevating. It's keeping you from falling. UGH SO DUMB YOU ARE

I smoke mostly because i'm used to the ACT of smoking..ya know, like some people eat sunflower seeds instead to keep their hands busy? I fucking hate sunfloweseeds. I don't even really know what the fuck you're talking about with a nicotine "buzz". All I EVER got was fucking lightheaded..I dont call that a buzz. They never acted as a stimulant for me either..I don't get even slightly more energized from smoking. It doesn't "maintain" me in any way..I don't need them to live. I smoke on and off (some weeks i'll smoke a pack and a half a day, some ill only get two packs a week).

And NO SHIT it's contradicted..but it wasn't from that context..you were agreeing but you now realize you're wrong..problem is you've already made such a huge attempt to disagree with up with these long ass pointless posts that you'd be stupid to give it up now.

This is getting fucking ridiculous..now we are all just repeating ourselves..and you've got the whole Opinionated complex bad..so im done fucking with it. Enjoy your debate.

I smoke mostly because i'm used to the ACT of smoking..ya know, like some people eat sunflower seeds instead to keep their hands busy? I fucking hate sunfloweseeds. I don't even really know what the fuck you're talking about with a nicotine "buzz". All I EVER got was fucking lightheaded..I dont call that a buzz. They never acted as a stimulant for me either..I don't get even slightly more energized from smoking. It doesn't "maintain" me in any way..I don't need them to live. I smoke on and off (some weeks i'll smoke a pack and a half a day, some ill only get two packs a week).

And NO SHIT it's contradicted..but it wasn't from that context..you were agreeing but you now realize you're wrong..problem is you've already made such a huge attempt to disagree with up with these long ass pointless posts that you'd be stupid to give it up now.

This is getting fucking ridiculous..now we are all just repeating ourselves..and you've got the whole Opinionated complex bad..so im done fucking with it. Enjoy your debate.

Internet-Weed-Dude can relate.

how the hell could smoking a cigarette after weed "magically" get you higher? fucking retard

Internet-Weed-Dude can relate.

STFU your supposed to be "dead"