i have a high tolerance because of h, suboxone, hydrocodone. but this was the first time using the spike. i've been in a really depressing point in my life and i want some excitment.

How much though?
Like right now, if you had some, how much H would you need to get high?

Peace.

I'm not going to be as nice about this as Vilbe, but you would be wise to heed this advice: Don't use needles. Ever. Period. No exception.

Quite frankly, I think people who use needles at all are fucking idiots. There are enough problems that come with using and abusing drugs without throwing all the other complications needles bring in.

Don't bother telling me it is a rare thing or that you will only do it every weekend or something. Because I won't believe you. Oh toy may think that's how it will be. But you will soon enough find that you do it more and more often. And it will get where you can't do a drug any other way because it just doesn't feel the same.

In all the years I've done drugs I've known more needle users than I wish I ever did. And out of the ones who told me they were only weekend or monthly users, do you know how many I can count?

One. I know of one person who has managed not to let needle use go past a once a month thing.

I don't care if the feeling you get from a needle is better than any other Way. I know that is true. But it is just not so much better that it is worth all the shot that can come with it.

*Steps off soapbox*

i've been in a really depressing point in my life and i want some excitment.

Yeah, you're a perfect candidate for IV drug use, then.

this thread is a real life, walking talking anti-drug commercial.

How much though?
Like right now, if you had some, how much H would you need to get high?

the very valuable answer i'm looking for...


you must have an instant gratification complex, but realize me and meta are right. the fact you've yet to get off satisfactory means theres still hope that the switch in yer brain hasn't been hit and all knowledge, will power, and reason hasn't been fried yet to long be forgotten until the shit just hits the fan way too many times...



sure, its another method of getting high, but its the difference between gambling and high stakes gambling dude. your putting yourself on the line with every fucking prick...

I know you were just making a joke with "steps off the soapbox", but never think of yourself on one. What you said was the 100 percent truth.

No good will ever come from using needles. There are one million and a half things I wish that I could go back and change - and the fact that I started shooting dope is one of them.

I can't speak for other people - but once I shot dope - I didn't want to take it any other way. And, therein was an enormous problem.

And that's the mother fucking truth. I was basically going to say the same thing

needlz r bad1!!11!1

im gonna start this out by agreeing with everyone, needles are bad. I will go a step farther and say opiates are bad.

but this is BLTC.

Its not about whats good or bad, it is about sharing experiences and helping make things safer.

this dude is gonna shoot up no matter what anyone says.

so here is the best advice I can give

when you become a junky, dont share needles.
Don't shoot street H without cleaning.
Don't reuse needles.

thats the best I can tell you. If you are smart you will get off the opiates entirely.

i didn't go in that deep. well, i hope not. but wouldn't blood not come out?

Listen, New Arival.

First off, your name is vagisil.

Secondly, when you pull back on your syring you could have knocked the needle out of place. I remember bitching on Totse about not getting high even after I saw blood, and this is why.

Next time just be really careful on pulling back, and you don't need to pull back big just a tiny bit.

do we have any shooters in the house?.

THIS IS A TEMPLE

fuck ass.

ahhhugh, don't move it around with the tip of the rig! that's horrible.

ok, i was talking about roxicodone in the thread. but when i snort h, i need 3 bags to feel high. and not nodding high. just ok high. i banged H since doing this. fucking sucked. needed to bang 2+ bags. i think my tolerance went up because of oxymorphone. 20mg just gets me high, doesn't make me nod. i'm hitting the inner elbow vein. it seriously is one of those things that once you do it, you don't want it any other way. that's why i've decided to stop banging. i've been wanting to bang coke now. but i should really stop while i can. and when i banged like 2.5 bag, it was the highest i got on dope. and cause i'm on SSRIs. i don't really nod on it. i just feel the whole world slow down and i feel like i am in a blissful bubble.

what meta said also great name

I shoot heroin very seldom though. Once a month is overdoing it. I snort it too, maybe once every other week. The high is amazing and that's why I do it, but I know steps I must take to prevent me from getting hooked but also to get high when I actually decide to use instead of just getting 'well'.

I shoot up viagra and let me tell you. THE RUSH IS INTENSE.


Protip: when u do this u get a better erection for a shorter amount of time.....throw that 4 hours shit out the window. ;)

yea, when i snort it. i do it every once in a while. been like that for 2 years. i took a little break. decided to do it again. i stop myself from getting more if i done it last week. i know how it can get.

Me too, but I've never actually shot myself. If I'm gonna shoot someone experienced has to be there to do it for me. I'd really like to find out how to actually shoot myself, my biggest problem is knowing how deep to go without either A. missing the vein completely or stabbing it through the top side and out the back. .

i learned through trial and error. not much error. it's not as hard as you might think. there are many sites online that will teach you. it's all about harm reduction. i only decided to shoot cause i was wasting money just going through like 4 bags just to get high. i suggest if your tolerance is still low. to stay away from shooting.

haha ur logic is warped....you were shooting to save money? thats gonna cost someone A LOT of money in the long run and dont say I didn't tell ya...


i bet ur nostrils are happy, u wont need them anymore.

Holy shit. Wow, this is gonna be long.



ALL of you pussies crying about "don't mess with the needle, or a spoon....."


You folks have never IV'd LSD. I won't deny that it CAN be a more dangerous route, but generally, especially in myself, it is SAFER to inject a street drug such as heroin, cocaine, or meth, because you CLEAN that shit first, where as with snorting or smoking etc, you don't bother.


Ok, and as someone else had pointed out, DO NOT STIR WITH YOUR NEEDLE FOR FUCKS SAKE. Don't touch anything with it BUT your skin.

First of all, a spoon is fucking dirty. Don't use a spoon. You fucking disgust me with that shit. There are all manner of glass containers that can be found ALL over the place, with rubber insert seals. Make that buck fifty investment.

Second of all, always always always presterilize ALL of your equipment such as your glass bottle, work table, forceps etc etc.


Use only sterile rigs. For proper cleaning techs you are going to need to get some basic chemicals, distilled deionoized water, acetone, HCl, NaOH, sodium bicarb, and just a good collection of other solvents like ethanol, ether, etc etc with the NUMBER ONE needed chemical being activated carbon.


I have taken what would be called "meth bombs" as in, designer pills that had tested positive for only meth, and did TWO filters.

One was an initial cotton ball filter, and the other was an activated carbon filter. All very easy and fast, but after that 5 minutes of work one can end up with a MUCH cleaner, VERY CLEAR solution of meth, or whatever drug you are working with.

Never inject a non-clear/particulate containing solution.


I had more, and could go on forever, but I forget what I was gonna say, and I have to get my little guy ready for bed.


Oh, and that one person meta knows who can ACTUALLY keep needle use down, safe, and infrequent is yours truly.

Also, get some wheel filters, or micron filter and a vac pump.


It's a matter of respect. If you respect the dangers that are possible with this route, you can have some of the craziest most amazing experiences of your life, and be just fine, but when you lose that respect and start to fuck around and cut corners, or allow your usage to get out of control, that's when shit starts hitting the fan.

Get those fucking monkeys away from the fan. Don't forget to bleach all the surfaces where that shit splattered.


Oh yeah, and do not EVER fucking shoot up in a bathroom, that is seriously the most disgusting thing a person can do.


I would rather shoot up outside in a park under a tree than in some dank disgusting fucking room where thousands of people have sat and sprayed unknown amounts of liquid fecal matter from one end to the other.


Seriously, that shit is so nasty. You might as well open a wound and rub it on the toilet seat.

^^Agreed. Most needles(like mine :))

http://i274.photobucket.com/albums/jj267/Kr13gst3r/p1ctu730037ue7.jpg

Come with a cop on both ends. I use the cap on the end (not the cap that shields the actual needle) to pour my dope into with the water, then use the other cap to crush it and mix it nice and good. Then it's a matter of throwing cotton and drawing it up. And if you're using a clean needle (if you're not, you're a huge fucking retard...I am guilty of using dirty needles a few times and haven't been tested. That shit sits on your mind hardcore and really scares you like nothing else could) then you're gonna have no problems with contamination. That's the way I'd do it. And btw, I've used a needle for well over a year now and haven't ever been hooked on an opiate (or any substance, ever).:).

needlz r bad1!!11!1

i lol'd

i dont plan to ever shoot anything. i dont think my life will ever come to that point... which is why i stay the fuck away from oxy for the most part... i have done it twice in the last year... one time was after a car crash but i still felt pretty fucking good, and one day when the dealer only had oxy...

shooting acid is a trip, SN does have a point there [but doesn't go into it in too much detail]. but at least he summed up the most common errors in the spike...


if you take one thing from him [besides sterilize] its the microns/wheel filter. everybody likes clean dope...

TLDR

You're so hardcore! Only pussies would call IV'ing a bad idea!

EDIT: Congrats on claiming to be one of the 1/1000 whose life isnt fucked up by the needle. Unfortunately, the other 99.9% IV users don't carefully clean their substances or have the willpower to use in moderation.

You're so hardcore! Only pussies would call IV'ing a bad idea!

EDIT: Congrats on claiming to be one of the 1/1000 whose life isnt fucked up by the needle. Unfortunately, the other 99.9% IV users don't carefully clean their substances or have the willpower to use in moderation.

prepare to be flamed

SN i dont know if meta was talking about you, but if he was than good for you (not trying to be a smartass or sarcastic) really but if there were 1000 people out there like you who took the time and care to do that out of all the IV users in the world i would be very surprised (not counting people who have clinics were they give you the gear needles and all that )

i've been in a really depressing point in my life and i want some excitment.

Why don't you weed yourself out of society the easy way?

Why even fuck with needles? It'll open a door that will NEVER be closed. However you're probably not going to listen to us, which brings me back to my original point.

Why don't you weed yourself out of society the easy way?

Why don't you weed yourself out of society the easy way?

Why even fuck with needles? It'll open a door that will NEVER be closed. However you're probably not going to listen to us, which brings me back to my original point.

Why don't you weed yourself out of society the easy way?

What, death?

That takes us all. Why not have some fun first?

But he is going through such a depressing period in his life! So why doesn't he just off himself before he turns it into one totally depressing period instead of not using drugs to simply escape his problem and delay the fact that one day, he's actually going to have to deal with it?

Oh wait, that doesn't make ANY sense at ALL!

Oh you deal with it ..............trust me, maybe not fully

You just deal with is under the influence
Making it way way easier, and its so good for depression
But like many things in life it has a negative stigma attached
And has a catch, you will become addicted, even the most strong willed people
Dont stand a chance,it is like a knife with a blade for a handle
I can not tell if it helps more than it hurts, in the long run probably not

You just deal with is under the influence


more like ABOVE THE INFLUENCE

amirite?

Oh you deal with it ..............trust me, maybe not fully

You just deal with is under the influence
Making it way way easier, and its so good for depression
But like many things in life it has a negative stigma attached
And has a catch, you will become addicted, even the most strong willed people
Dont stand a chance,it is like a knife with a blade for a handle
I can not tell if it helps more than it hurts, in the long run probably not

This is not the place to post your screamo lyrics.

yeah you really pegged me dumb ass
i have never listened to screamo in my life
nor wrote its lyrics you stupid fuck