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Old 2008-08-22, 03:25
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Alright, I've recently had a bit of marijuana, (well, not that recently [I was high on the 4th of July]) and decided that I liked it. There are a bunch of drug dealers at my school (for a town of 3500), but I honestly don't trust people enough. Plus, I'm a stingy motherfucker. I live pretty isolated in the country, so I've got plenty of space. I've only got 2 years left here, so I'm wondering if I should start growing my own stuff (for now and the future). I'm sure I could get plenty of advice on HOW to do it, but I'm just wondering if y'all think it's worth it. Is the expense worth it if I'm just growing for myself? Is selling he only way to go if you're growing? Is it just plain worth the work?

Thanks.
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Old 2008-08-22, 03:32
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Growing your own drugs is WELL worth it, if you're smart about it.

Tell as few people as possible, if anyone.

Think about where you're going to grow them, especially if they are illegal drugs you're growing.

SWIM's currently growing Papaver somniferum, various morning glory, various cacti, and cannabis.

All to soon yield joy.
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Old 2008-08-22, 03:35
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go for it. sounds like a good deal in your situation
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Old 2008-08-22, 03:38
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If you can properly grow your own shit without having it found or destroyed, I don't see any reason why you wouldn't.
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Old 2008-08-22, 03:38
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Alright, how much money would one need to start a little farm? Would it take up a lot of time? Is it really cheaper than buying, because it would only be growing a small amount (enough for personal use, plus 1 or 2 maybe)?
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Old 2008-08-22, 03:46
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Yes, it will take alot of time. Yes, it will be worth it.
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Old 2008-08-22, 03:47
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ingenious idea, except that its august...


granted it is a weed, and sure you throw some seeds in the dirt something may pop out, but theres an art behind it...
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Old 2008-08-22, 03:48
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ingenious idea, except that its august...


granted it is a weed, and sure you throw some seeds in the dirt something may pop out, but theres an art behind it...
hes right. you should just google this shit. Itll be much more helpful.
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Old 2008-08-22, 03:54
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Well I would obviously adhere to the standards of the growing business. I was just wondering if any of you guys had some first-hand experience, so I would know if it's fiscally responsible, before I jumped in and started preparing.

So far, I think it'd be a pretty good move. Nobody's going to "catch me" in this small a town, and nobody would suspect me of it anyway (Smart Kid Image really helps).

Any wise words of advice before I look around? Keep in mind, I'm not thinking of doing anything hard, just some pot for now.
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Old 2008-08-22, 04:07
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alot of vendors selling seeds are scams. Be careful, noones gonna give u sources here. just keep it in mind.
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Old 2008-08-22, 04:12
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no you didn't post a source in this post. warning numero uno...
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Old 2008-08-22, 04:27
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If seeds is all you need, just buy some weed off a dealer or something. They're bound to have seeds. If you have a bit of a bigger money base, you can get some high quality stuff which chances are has at least some seeds (and yes, I know that if it does have seeds it's not as good as if it doesn't etc blah blah blah).
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Old 2008-08-22, 06:13
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There are a bunch of drug dealers at my school... Is the expense worth it if I'm just growing for myself?

Why, no. Your parents will steal your shit and smoke it.

Try again.
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Old 2008-08-22, 07:34
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Do it, grow as much as you can without being conspic.

Grow mushies and salvia and shit even grow some p. somniferum while you're at it!

In the end you got some herb, a psychadelic, a painkiller that tastes so great and mixes with pot like pb&j. I don't know if I even wanna experience salvia again...but if you like it you might as well grow it while it's still legal!
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Old 2008-08-22, 07:55
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I have been thinking about growing some cacti, but I wasn't sure what would be the best to try to grow, or easiest to get. I live in New Orleans so climate should be ok.


I want some peyote really bad, but I figure it will be hard to find seeds, or whatever.....

...meh, any advice is good advice....
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Old 2008-08-22, 08:00
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Originally Posted by happy_one_hit
I have been thinking about growing some cacti, but I wasn't sure what would be the best to try to grow, or easiest to get. I live in New Orleans so climate should be ok.


I want some peyote really bad, but I figure it will be hard to find seeds, or whatever.....

...meh, any advice is good advice....

I can hook you up with a place to find seeds.............


I gotta dig it out though. Not right now, bout to go lay down, but hit me up on msn tomorrow or something and i will dig it up for you, i was thinking of getting some myself, but I don't want to wait ten years for results.


If you know a canadian you trust, you can have whole cactus shipped there, and then on to you. They don't ship cactus to the states, but you can have it sent to CAN, and then on to you via a friend. They even have multiheaded cactus. Prices are nice too. Seeds and cactus are from different sites though.
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Old 2008-08-22, 08:04
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I can hook you up with a place to find seeds.............


I gotta dig it out though. Not right now, bout to go lay down, but hit me up on msn tomorrow or something and i will dig it up for you, i was thinking of getting some myself, but I don't want to wait ten years for results.


If you know a canadian you trust, you can have whole cactus shipped there, and then on to you. They don't ship cactus to the states, but you can have it sent to CAN, and then on to you via a friend. They even have multiheaded cactus. Prices are nice too. Seeds and cactus are from different sites though.

Cool man, I'll send you something tomorrow.
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Old 2008-08-22, 08:50
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I can hook you up with a place to find seeds.............


I gotta dig it out though. Not right now, bout to go lay down, but hit me up on msn tomorrow or something and i will dig it up for you, i was thinking of getting some myself, but I don't want to wait ten years for results.


If you know a canadian you trust, you can have whole cactus shipped there, and then on to you. They don't ship cactus to the states, but you can have it sent to CAN, and then on to you via a friend. They even have multiheaded cactus. Prices are nice too. Seeds and cactus are from different sites though.

Hydroponic pereskiopsis/peyote might be easier. The peyote will reach a large mass quickly but I don't know about the potency when it's grafted to pereskiopsis.
Though it seems grafting may be unsuccessful sometimes, so it may be tricky.

http://www.drugs-forum.co.uk/forum/showthread.php?t=744

http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Cat/0/Number/1932570

I don't really like the idea of peyotes automatic nausea. I'm not sure why people would rather use peyote than san pedro. Probably cause it's illegal so it must be better and more cool. It's definitely more consistent with potency too, so that's probably another reason.

Peyote grows near me. But I'd probably rather get it from canada, much easier than going into the desert.
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Old 2008-08-22, 11:34
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I have an LSD tree.

http://www.fractal.org/Beelden/fractal-Julius-Tree.png
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Old 2008-08-22, 13:55
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A plant that produced lsd would be a nightmare for the DEA. Well maybe not, but if someone were to genetically engineer ordinary plants to produce it then that would definitely be a nightmare for them. Unfortunately scientists are all shitheads and would never do such a thing.
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Old 2008-08-22, 16:55
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I think a plant that produced LSD would be impossible due to its inherent instability. Though, one of it's more stable analogues might be more realistic. I am still learning about that whole thing though, so I would have no idea what to start with, or which enzymes to take advantage of, if it's even possible.


The reason I would prefer peyote to pedro is that first of all, higher alkaloid content, and second of all it is traditional. I want the full alkaloidal spectrum for my trip, not that it REALLY makes much of a difference, it's more for my piece of mind.


I have yet to try mescaline, and am saving that virginity for peyote. I want to experience it as my ancestors did.
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Old 2008-08-22, 17:26
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If you don't have any actual living native relatives and you're just going by genealogy or what someone said, http://www.decodeme.com/?gclid=CI-Zi7rg65ACFRGCGgodqzetXw

Lots of white people are part native but lots like to say they are out of sympathy, respect, coolness, fitting in, etc.

as for the plant, I read about one plant that contained if i remember correctly methamphetamine, lsa, mescaline, mdma and other drugs. This was probably cause they didn't clean the equipment well enough when they were testing the plant and was probably just left over, but it freaked them out and they eradicated the plant without even checking to make sure. It grew near me natively but I don't think I'd be able to find it.

I hope you study the pharmacology/biology/botany or whatever it is you need to study. Would be cool if people knew more about this type of thing.


this is it http://www.drugs-forum.co.uk/forum/archive/index.php/t-42331.html
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Old 2008-08-22, 17:41
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Hydroponic pereskiopsis/peyote might be easier. The peyote will reach a large mass quickly but I don't know about the potency when it's grafted to pereskiopsis.
Though it seems grafting may be unsuccessful sometimes, so it may be tricky.

http://www.drugs-forum.co.uk/forum/showthread.php?t=744

http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Cat/0/Number/1932570

I don't really like the idea of peyotes automatic nausea. I'm not sure why people would rather use peyote than san pedro. Probably cause it's illegal so it must be better and more cool. It's definitely more consistent with potency too, so that's probably another reason.

Peyote grows near me. But I'd probably rather get it from canada, much easier than going into the desert.

How is San Pedro compared to peyote? Better?

I have only heard of San Pedro, but I don't know much about it.
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Old 2008-08-22, 17:51
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My genealogy is really of no consequence. I don't want to do it because they did it, hrm, how to put this.......


Not sure.......


Anyway, I never claim any of my background except for english, because I am very english on both sides. The native american part is really just a side note. I am no where near enough to actually claim it.


As for that article you speak of, I saw it too, it's on CG in the ask shulgin section, and yes, I think you are right, just equipment contamination.


Here:

http://www.cognitiveliberty.org/shulgin/adsarchive/acacia.htm


And yes, I study as much as I can.
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Old 2008-08-22, 17:59
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I haven't tried peyote. I'd like to though. None of my san pedro doses were sufficient, probably because of the plants getting too much water before cutting. It was pleasant though. Buying the "pre stressed" cuttings or the powder on the internet is probably a better option, a heck of a lot quicker than growing it. The people that sell those usually won't sell it if it isn't potent. Although growing it would definitely pay off if you started with tons of seeds and took care to grow them correctly and starve them before harvest.

I think the only thing I can trust is shrooms and pot. San Pedro is tricky and peyote's puking scares me. But I'll try peyote eventually. I want the type of experience with san pedro the jew dude had. One day I may try peyote and potent san pedro at the same time.
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Old 2008-08-22, 18:40
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I don't like to get powders because it is technically processed cactus, making it illegal, technically. Not to mention you have no idea the purity of it, or what else is in there, as well as increased degradation of product in powdered goods.
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Old 2008-08-23, 00:53
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Any wise words of advice before I look around? Keep in mind, I'm not thinking of doing anything hard, just some pot for now.

Most anybody can grow marijuana. That being said, read every single grow guide on google that you can get your hands on.

As for cacti, buy a san pedro and graft. They grow pretty quick, my friend usually gets about a foot (1 dose) every 6 months off of his. Thats phenomenal compared to peyote, which can take decades to do the same.

edit: sorry, just read first page ;)
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Old 2008-08-23, 04:57
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Alright, I've recently had a bit of marijuana, (well, not that recently [I was high on the 4th of July]) and decided that I liked it. There are a bunch of drug dealers at my school (for a town of 3500), but I honestly don't trust people enough. Plus, I'm a stingy motherfucker. I live pretty isolated in the country, so I've got plenty of space. I've only got 2 years left here, so I'm wondering if I should start growing my own stuff (for now and the future). I'm sure I could get plenty of advice on HOW to do it, but I'm just wondering if y'all think it's worth it. Is the expense worth it if I'm just growing for myself? Is selling he only way to go if you're growing? Is it just plain worth the work?

Thanks.


dont do that.
its illegal
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Old 2008-08-23, 07:04
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I'm not sure why people would rather use peyote than san pedro. Probably cause it's illegal so it must be better and more cool.


Or, ya know, the whole "used ritually for the past several thousand years" thing...
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Old 2008-08-23, 07:33
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Or, ya know, the whole "used ritually for the past several thousand years" thing...
And what about the fact that san pedro has been used ritually for the past several thousand years as well?

I think kids like you just might have a hardon for native american culture. Native medicine is pretty cool though, in north central and south america, and lots of other parts of the world too.

I think you're part of the conspiracy to lure me into responding to stupid shit on the internet.
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Old 2008-08-23, 20:19
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That is the right way to get drugs, kid.

My professer's friend was a heroin dealer, and he helped put bleach and tide and lead paint and all that shit in it. thats what you get when you buy from dealers in Mass.

I know weed is different, but basically get a humidifier, and a room with a window that cannot be seen from the outside. then put in some plant lamps, some soil, and a irrigation channel.

is great.
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Old 2008-08-24, 10:45
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was a heroin dealer, and he helped put bleach and tide and lead paint


And when was this, again?
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