I've just recently gotten off of a Concerta scrip' that I've had for a while. (I wanted to get off of it because it made me feel legitimately shitty even in "therapeutic" doses--headaches, too much jaw tension, ungodly sweating, incurable dry-mouth--the works.)

Now I have a scrip' for Vyvanse-- the brand name for Lisdexamfetamine. I've scoured Erowid and found nothing on it. I've read the wiki, too, and all I've garnered is that it's extended-release on a molecular level (damn prodrugs) and that apparently 150 mg is similar to 40 mg d-amp.

But here's the question: does anyone here have any experience with Vyvanse and/or know if it is actually comparable in effects to d-amp at all (I trust drug users more than experts when it comes to gauging recreational potential, to be perfectly honest.) And if anyone has experience with it, could you recommend a good "sweet-spot" recreational dose?

I'm not into stims so much, but I wouldn't mind making a little extra money on the side from them. And if I'm lucky enough to have a potentially fun pharm on my hands, I'd like to be able to sell an appropriate amount in each deal so as to make the customer base happy--let's be honest; no one likes false advertisement when it comes to how much fun the drugs you've bought will be.

Thanks.

If that is what I think it is it converts to Dextroamp if eaten but you can't snort em. It is EASILY converted to D amp though using a simple procedure. I think this is the drug I am thinking of but I could be wrong.

~ LittleFootOnLSD

lulz, this happened to my friend about 4 days ago. Exactly. My mate had concerta and quit for about 2 years, and now he has Vyvanse. I offered to turn his Vyvanse into d-amp and within minutes he was at my pad with a fat 90
supply of 50mg vyvanse.

All you have to do is reflux in a spot of HCl. Just like how your body converts it to d-amp in you stomach.

it converts to Dextroamp if eaten but you can't snort em.



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I doubt you'll be able to sell them for enough to make a profit off of the ludicrous price you're going to pay at the pharmacy.

Also, if Concerta gave you those type of undesirable effects, don't expect much difference from Vyvanse.

It is EASILY converted to D amp though using a simple procedure. I think this is the drug I am thinking of but I could be wrong.

I remember someone making a thread about this. And someone posted how to make something worthwhile out of it. JoePedro will probably know how.

Nah. I'll be able to make a fair amount of cash. The pharmacy's co-pay is only $25 for thirty pills. And from what I've experienced using the Vyvanse for two days now, it is MUCH better than the Concerta in the way of side effects. The jaw tension is still there to some extent, the dry-mouth isn't as bad, and none of the other side effects have happened to me.

And Pooter, could you maybe throw me a link to a site that has the process on it? I figure it can't be as simple as just dousing it with HCl and crossing your fingers, so a walkthrough would be sweet. I've come a long way from posting questions about CWEs-- I've even helped a buddy cook up some small batches of dope before, so I'm not exactly a slouch in the lab--I just don't know EVERYTHING. (or at least, I don't know the less frequently USED things.)

Nah. I'll be able to make a fair amount of cash. The pharmacy's co-pay is only $25 for thirty pills. And from what I've experienced using the Vyvanse for two days now, it is MUCH better than the Concerta in the way of side effects. The jaw tension is still there to some extent, the dry-mouth isn't as bad, and none of the other side effects have happened to me.

And Pooter, could you maybe throw me a link to a site that has the process on it? I figure it can't be as simple as just dousing it with HCl and crossing your fingers, so a walkthrough would be sweet. I've come a long way from posting questions about CWEs-- I've even helped a buddy cook up some small batches of dope before, so I'm not exactly a slouch in the lab--I just don't know EVERYTHING. (or at least, I don't know the less frequently USED things.)

It is as simple as that. No crossing your fingers(p<0). How I got it:
Stomach acid = hcl.
Pubmed tells me that Vyvanse is sliced by stomach acid. Very straightforward, l-Lys /d-amp ester pretty easy to separate via hydrolysis.
HCl in vyvanse sol. yields vyvanse + H3O.
That hydronium will rip the shit out of the vyvanse yielding d-amp.

Yeah you can turn the lis-D-amp into D-amp with citric acid (lemon juice). I believe the idea did originate from JoePedo as well. After you add the lemon juice, stir, wait a second or two, you should add some water and then heat off the water/acid mix so you dont snort a lot of citric acid along with your D-amp. The nice thing about it is that Vynase comes in pretty high doses, much higher than you'd get from regular Dexedrine. 50 mg of Dexedrine is a nice dose and even if you get only 30-40 mg from a singe 50 mg Vynase then it is still very worth it.

And Pooter, could you maybe throw me a link to a site that has the process on it?

http://www.totse.com/

There ya go!

a walkthrough would be sweet.

http://www.totse.com/community/search.php

Thar's a link!

The nice thing about it is that Vynase comes in pretty high doses, much higher than you'd get from regular Dexedrine. 50 mg of Dexedrine is a nice dose and even if you get only 30-40 mg from a singe 50 mg Vynase then it is still very worth it.

i don't think the ratio is 1:1

dont quote me though

Methylphenidate = Some strange mind control agent resembling the effects of amphetamines at certain points.
Pros: None really.
Cons: Short lived high. Long lived comedown. I'd say it's like 4 hours of being high and 20+ hours of sleepless pleasure deprivation comatose.

(Dextro)amphetamine = Some strange mind control agent that gets you really fucking high.
Pros: :)
Cons: The need for speed.

you dont happen to be a kiwi do ya possumking?