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| Better Living Through Chemistry Discussions of any and all sorts of mind-warping chemicals, pills, booze, mind machines, trippy stuff, current street prices, importing pharmaceuticals, smart drugs, nutrients, herbs, and altered states. Please try to keep your conversations "theoretical" in nature, since this is an open conference. |
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2008-08-20, 20:40
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Can i extract the possible psychoactive "goodness" of hops?
Is the, commercially available, non-bitter "hop oil" a possible source?
What is the somniferous chemical, i seek, in the hop?
Is it an oil, if so, what is the V.P? Could a dry organic extraction suffice?
Or...should I go pick up a Silk screen?
What mesh would you recommend?
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# 2
2008-08-20, 20:59
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Re: Can i extract the possible psychoactive "goodness" of hops?
Um, like hops used in beer?
Troll?
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# 3
2008-08-20, 21:05
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Florida USA
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Re: Can i extract the possible psychoactive "goodness" of hops?
Nah, I think hops actually is somewhat psychoactive by itself, but I have no clue in what way, or how to get the drugs.
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2008-08-20, 21:11
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Re: Can i extract the possible psychoactive "goodness" of hops?
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Originally Posted by Patrick Bateman
Um, like hops used in beer?
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Yes, like those used in brewing.
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Originally Posted by Patrick Bateman
Troll?
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Hardly.
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# 5
2008-08-20, 21:32
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Re: Can i extract the possible psychoactive "goodness" of hops?
The hops used to make beer are the flower of the hop vine, which is a member of the hemp family (Cannabaceae). Hops are closely related to another member of the hemp family that you may have heard of — cannabis, or marijuana, although hops do not have the psychoactive effects associated with marijuana.
here is a link with some cool pics showing how closely related they are - http://forums.mycotopia.net/botanica...ulus-hops.html
I honestly don't think there good for much more than brewing...
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2008-08-20, 21:44
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Re: Can i extract the possible psychoactive "goodness" of hops?
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Originally Posted by http://www.hogtownbrewers.org/news/2000jul/psychoactiveBeer.html
Hops are definitely psychoactive plants. They contain estrogenic and soporific compounds; (the former being great for women in menopause, but prone to cause a malady among male brewers and innkeepers called "brewer's droop", according to that there All About Beer article.). Not being stimulants, they're kind of the opposite of the herbs in gruit. Hops effects were well known before its introduction to beer.
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Hops are mildly psychoactive. They sell something called hop oil at crappy homebrew supply shops. The stuff absolutely sucks to work with when brewing beer, but may have some use, on its own, recreationally speaking. Buy some and write up a trip report.
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# 7
2008-08-20, 22:54
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Re: Can i extract the possible psychoactive "goodness" of hops?
Do they use hops in beer for its bitter taste, or because it is mildly psychoactive?
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# 8
2008-08-20, 23:12
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under a thick cannabinoid fog
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Re: Can i extract the possible psychoactive "goodness" of hops?
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Originally Posted by 4real
Do they use hops in beer for its bitter taste, or because it is mildly psychoactive?
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Taste.
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# 9
2008-08-20, 23:25
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Somewhere in Ontario Canada
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Re: Can i extract the possible psychoactive "goodness" of hops?
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Originally Posted by silverballs
Taste.
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You're absolutely right! It IS strictly for the taste! there's nothing psychoactive about it at all in fact! 
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# 10
2008-08-20, 23:30
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Re: Can i extract the possible psychoactive "goodness" of hops?
http://www.vortexhealth.net/hops.html
"By the twelth century hops was also regarded as an aperitive, a depurative and a laxative, and was highly regarded for its sedative and relaxing properties."
I brew beer. Yes hops, while mainly used to balance the sweet alcoholic taste imparted by the malt with their bitterness, do also give beer it's calming relaxing effect that make it a slightly different drunkenness than straight up alcohol.
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2008-08-20, 23:37 |
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Re: Can i extract the possible psychoactive "goodness" of hops?
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Originally Posted by Vadagar
http://www.vortexhealth.net/hops.html
"By the twelth century hops was also regarded as an aperitive, a depurative and a laxative, and was highly regarded for its sedative and relaxing properties."
I brew beer. Yes hops, while mainly used to balance the sweet alcoholic taste imparted by the malt with their bitterness, do also give beer it's calming relaxing effect that make it a slightly different drunkenness than straight up alcohol.
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Thanks for the link bro! Good stuff.;) |
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2008-08-21, 01:33 |
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Re: Can i extract the possible psychoactive "goodness" of hops?
Thanks for the link bro! Good stuff.;)
Fuck, I think I liked it better when you were a flaming retard.
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2008-08-21, 05:35 |
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Re: Can i extract the possible psychoactive "goodness" of hops?
Flavors, Bitters, and Preserves Beer; Promotes Appetite and Sleep; Reduces Anxiety; Recently research has looked at anti-cancer and anti-viral effects.
http://www.erowid.org/herbs/hops/hops.shtml
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2008-08-21, 05:52 |
ilovechronic
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Re: Can i extract the possible psychoactive "goodness" of hops?
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Originally Posted by PandaOfAMan
The hops used to make beer are the flower of the hop vine, which is a member of the hemp family (Cannabaceae). Hops are closely related to another member of the hemp family that you may have heard of cannabis, or marijuana, although hops do not have the psychoactive effects associated with marijuana.
here is a link with some cool pics showing how closely related they are - http://forums.mycotopia.net/botanicals-cactus-misc-entheogens-psychedelics/35238-humulus-lupulus-hops.html
I honestly don't think there good for much more than brewing...
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I definetly notice a major difference when I drink beer. With beer it feels better and makes me more tired. hard liquor feels much different. |
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2008-08-21, 09:54 |
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Re: Can i extract the possible psychoactive "goodness" of hops?
Can i extract the possible psychoactive "goodness" of hops?
Yes!
Is the, commercially available, non-bitter "hop oil" a possible source?
Fuck if I know!
What is the somniferous chemical, i seek, in the hop?
I believe it's 2-methyl-2-hydroxybutane, but 2-methylbutric acid is also noted as of interest to investigatory research.
Is it an oil
Yes!
if so, what is the V.P? Could a dry organic extraction suffice?
Tincture, motherfucker. Does you speaks it?
Or...should I go pick up a Silk screen?
Pressed lupulin is also prized, but evaporated tincture is just plain easy and effective.
What mesh would you recommend?
Loose! You're just trying to keep really broad papery petals from falling through!
While, like most sedatives, not very "fun" without the presence of other drugs, a crude extract does tend to knock people on their ass in small quantities.
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2008-08-21, 23:28 |
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Re: Can i extract the possible psychoactive "goodness" of hops?
Thanks JP!
If im not mistaken, The freshness of the plant matter directly correlates to the effects.
Noting the anecdotal "curring barn" effect; I was considering the possibility that the active chemical(s) are probably volatile to a significant degree.
2-methylbutyric acid is hardly of interest, in respect to the hop plant.
and then..... 2-methyl-2-hydroxybutane is unaccounted, unless somehow you factor in the actual brewing process (i cant understand the maltic acid reactions mentioned in the paper i browsed through)
You are pulling my LEG.....
I am no organic chemist, but i know some nomenclature....and i also know how to use Google.
After doing just that i am going to chose to not pursue doing anything. (i have the opportunity to get fresh hops for free)
After reading all this "non-combustible" information, the best conclusion i have come to is: that i prefer my hops, like my soy; fermented and aged  |
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