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Old 2008-08-20, 15:38
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Smile Mescaline

I'm about to try the psychedelic drug Mescaline.

Any advice, experiences?
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Old 2008-08-20, 15:54
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What form? How much? What quality? What prior experience? Where at? What are you trying to achieve?

Why can't you make a proper thread goddammit?
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Old 2008-08-20, 15:55
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What dose - fresh?
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Old 2008-08-20, 16:05
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What dose - fresh?
Then what you're taking is not mescaline but in fact cactus. Answer the rest of the questions for moar!
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Old 2008-08-20, 16:09
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What form? How much? What quality? What prior experience? Where at? What are you trying to achieve?

Why can't you make a proper thread goddammit?



San Pedro, bout 60 cm

Very Good quality. No prior experience, possibly around people and an ecstasy high....
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Old 2008-08-20, 16:10
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Then what you're taking is not mescaline but in fact cactus. Answer the rest of the questions for moar!
Your an idiot...What chemical is in this cactus? MESCALINE so he is in fact taking mescaline u dumb fuck...Just because hes not taking mescaline crystal/powder doesnt mean hes not taking mescaline
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Old 2008-08-20, 16:11
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I just want some info about what to expect?/???
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Old 2008-08-20, 16:13
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Your an idiot...What chemical is in this cactus? MESCALINE so he is in fact taking mescaline u dumb fuck...Just because hes not taking mescaline crystal/powder doesnt mean hes not taking mescaline
MY an idiot?

If you smoke marijuana are you taking THC? If you take shrooms are you taking 4-OH-DMT? If you take street ecstasy, are you taking MDMA? Yes you are (most of the time), but they are still different forms. The form in which you take a drug does matter, especially in the case of cactus.

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I just want some info about what to expect?/???
Read some trip reports. You won't be blown away (unless you take an MAOI, which I recommend because eating a lot of cactus is nasty), but you'll likely have fun.
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Old 2008-08-20, 16:23
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What dose - fresh?
BTW for anyone who has tried it?

How much did you have?
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Old 2008-08-20, 16:37
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It is the worst tasting thing I have ever eaten. Seriously, words dont describe how vile the cactus is.
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Old 2008-08-20, 17:00
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I'm up for it...

how much, first time?
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Old 2008-08-20, 17:06
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Cut up the whole thing, simmer it for about 24 hours with some lemon juice and water, strain the cactus out and drink the tea. It's best to evaporate it down to just a little bit of liquid. No more than a glass or so. You're not gonna want to drink more than that. Don't expect anything like MDMA. Mescaline's a psychedelic, MDMA's not.
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Old 2008-08-20, 17:11
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Cut up the whole thing, simmer it for about 24 hours with some lemon juice and water, strain the cactus out and drink the tea. It's best to evaporate it down to just a little bit of liquid. No more than a glass or so. You're not gonna want to drink more than that. Don't expect anything like MDMA. Mescaline's a psychedelic, MDMA's not.



i would consider mdma to be somewhat psychedelic.
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Old 2008-08-20, 17:16
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thanx for the input...
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Old 2008-08-20, 17:18
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MY an idiot?

If you smoke marijuana are you taking THC? If you take shrooms are you taking 4-OH-DMT? If you take street ecstasy, are you taking MDMA? Yes you are (most of the time), but they are still different forms. The form in which you take a drug does matter, especially in the case of cactus.



Read some trip reports. You won't be blown away (unless you take an MAOI, which I recommend because eating a lot of cactus is nasty), but you'll likely have fun.

ohh lawddy........

and OP what you should expect is some nausea, probably throwing up in the beginning, and then a really nice universally feeling high where youll be connected to everything, have fun you lucky fucking bastard
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Old 2008-08-20, 17:46
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MY an idiot?

If you smoke marijuana are you taking THC? If you take shrooms are you taking 4-OH-DMT? If you take street ecstasy, are you taking MDMA? Yes you are (most of the time), but they are still different forms. The form in which you take a drug does matter, especially in the case of cactus.



Read some trip reports. You won't be blown away (unless you take an MAOI, which I recommend because eating a lot of cactus is nasty), but you'll likely have fun.

Did you just argue my point and use examples that back what I'm saying to try and disprove me....dumbass
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Old 2008-08-20, 17:53
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Did you just argue my point and use examples that back what I'm saying to try and disprove me....dumbass

Don't be an idiot. Taking [insert drug here] is not the same as [insert corresponding active chemical here]. That was the point I made and it's quite valid with mescaline. If you're going to eat cactus straight up or extracted you want to take an MAOI so that you don't have to put up with the taste. With pills/powder you don't get a taste, so there are different methods and strategies of intake. It does fucking matter if he's taking pure mescaline or just eating a cactus.
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Old 2008-08-20, 17:55
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Don't be an idiot. Taking [insert drug here] is not the same as [insert corresponding active chemical here]. That was the point I made and it's quite valid with mescaline. If you're going to eat cactus straight up or extracted you want to take an MAOI so that you don't have to put up with the taste. With pills/powder you don't get a taste, so there are different methods and strategies of intake. It does fucking matter if he's taking pure mescaline or just eating a cactus.

your still a fucking failure for thinking DMT is in mushrooms


retard
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Old 2008-08-20, 17:57
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your still a fucking failure for thinking DMT is in mushrooms


retard

You're a fucking failure, because there pretty much is edible DMT in mushrooms. And he never said n,n-DMT, he said 4-OH-DMT (AKA psilocin).

Retard.
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Old 2008-08-20, 17:58
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your still a fucking failure for thinking DMT is in mushrooms


retard

NAME : Psilocin
CHEMICAL NAME : 3-[2-(Dimethylamino)ethyl]-1H-indol-4-ol
ALTERNATE CHEMICAL NAMES : 4-hydroxy-N,N-dimethyltryptamine; psilocyn
CHEMICAL FORMULA C12H16N2O
MOLECULAR WEIGHT 204.27
MELTING POINT 173-176° C (plates from methanol)

http://www.erowid.org/plants/mushrooms/mushrooms_chemistry.shtml

There is no DMT in mushrooms, and I never said there was. What I said was that there was 4-OH-DMT, which is another name for psilocin. Either you misread my post or you're the retard.
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Old 2008-08-20, 18:02
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I heard the middle part/core of San Pedro is poison.

True or False?
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Old 2008-08-20, 18:04
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I heard the middle part of San Pedro is poison.

True or False?

You mean the core? False, but it doesn't really contain any alkaloids. Most people throw the core away.
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Old 2008-08-20, 18:29
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Don't be an idiot. Taking [insert drug here] is not the same as [insert corresponding active chemical here]. That was the point I made and it's quite valid with mescaline. If you're going to eat cactus straight up or extracted you want to take an MAOI so that you don't have to put up with the taste. With pills/powder you don't get a taste, so there are different methods and strategies of intake. It does fucking matter if he's taking pure mescaline or just eating a cactus.

ok now i see more clearly what your saying...but i think ur saying ur point and im saying mine and there is little relationship between the two...Soo you are right and i am more right ;D
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Old 2008-08-20, 18:35
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ok now i see more clearly what your saying...but i think ur saying ur point and im saying mine and there is little relationship between the two...Soo you are right and i am more right ;D

I think I'm going to fall back on "STFU Acolyte" on this one.
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Old 2008-08-20, 18:44
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I just read "The Doors Of Perception"

and you should definitely read it as well
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Old 2008-08-20, 18:46
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Correction>>>>>

I'm up to Vermeer and the women beginning something he sees as being a perfect is...!!!!
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Old 2008-08-20, 19:10
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I think I'm going to fall back on "STFU Acolyte" on this one.

Because that's all you can say....I guess your too conceited and "blown up" by your status as a regular to see that i was joking...I bow to your awesomeness and give you much credit for achieving your status as a regular
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Old 2008-08-20, 19:21
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Because that's all you can say....I guess your too conceited and "blown up" by your status as a regular to see that i was joking...I bow to your awesomeness and give you much credit for achieving your status as a regular

Check the post icon, man.
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Old 2008-08-20, 19:35
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Sounds like the short bus kids got out of school early today:p
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Old 2008-08-20, 19:36
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It is the worst tasting thing I have ever eaten. Seriously, words dont describe how vile the cactus is.


This. I once successfully ate an entire pound of san pedro. Although the trip itself was fun as shit, its not worth it IMHO if you're eating raw cactus. Boil it down to like a shot of ubergoo and say hello to Mescalito for me.
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Old 2008-08-20, 19:40
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sorry,

IMO?
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Old 2008-08-20, 19:41
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InMyOpinion
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Old 2008-08-20, 19:58
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This. I once successfully ate an entire pound of san pedro. Although the trip itself was fun as shit, its not worth it IMHO if you're eating raw cactus. Boil it down to like a shot of ubergoo and say hello to Mescalito for me.


If its fun as shit why bother?
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Old 2008-08-20, 23:26
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fuck i fail
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Old 2008-08-20, 23:35
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Well if by ''mescaline'' you are referring to 3,4,5-trimethoxyphenethylamine you have yourself what's known as a psychedelic alkaloid of the phenethylamine class. In lamens terms it's a recreational hallucinogen. It is a derivative of the peyote cactus if I'm not mistaken, but that doesn't really matter.

Average dose : I'd say 200 mg, start lightly as it can be rather "surprisingly intense".
You can take more and still be safe, I wouldn't go higher than 500 being a noob to the stuff.

I find with mescaline as opposed to LSD the intensity of what already IS there is amplified, unlike with LSD where colors and psychedelic images are often seen when there is nothing even there. That is in MY opinion and is not neccessarily a fact for everyone.

what else..
Oh, it also affects your peripheral nervous system.

Just be safe bro! stay chilled out and if you start panicking just remind yourself you took a drug and everything will be cool. You don't have to worry about OD'ing when it comes to Mescaline, but you can have a bad trip. Try to stay one all by your lonely, or with a small group of trusted friends.

and lastly.. Have fun!;)
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ITT: IWD reads a wikipedia article on mescaline and copy pasta's the big words.
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ITT: IWD reads a wikipedia article on mescaline and copy pasta's the big words.


Be happy he even did that!EEK!
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Old 2008-08-21, 00:53
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ITT: IWD reads a wikipedia article on mescaline and copy pasta's the big words.


Uh no. but that's okay! you're entitled to whatever you want to believe my friend!;)
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Old 2008-08-21, 09:30
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Mail it to me to make sure it's legit!
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Old 2008-09-05, 12:32
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...a bit of a bump here....

I tried San Pedro twice over the past three days. I tried 250 mg of San Pedro the second time. Mild effect with no visuals. How much do you need to take to get visuals?
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Old 2008-09-05, 13:13
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...a bit of a bump here....

I tried San Pedro twice over the past three days. I tried 250 mg of San Pedro the second time. Mild effect with no visuals. How much do you need to take to get visuals?


You took 250mg of actual cactus? That's not going to have any effect whatsoever...
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Old 2008-09-05, 16:57
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i would consider mdma to be somewhat psychedelic.

in high doses it is an insanely powerful psychedelic, mushrooms could never do for me what a couple grams of mdma have
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Old 2008-09-05, 19:24
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...a bit of a bump here....

I tried San Pedro twice over the past three days. I tried 250 mg of San Pedro the second time. Mild effect with no visuals. How much do you need to take to get visuals?


In the grams. But I recommend taking it with an MAOI (and extreme fucking caution!!) which saves your dosing. The feeling is different from a regular mescaline trip, but if all you're going for is cool visuals at a cheap price then rue and mescaline is a good combo for you.
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