benzos suck

So does your mother but I don't complain

If your looking for an easily available drug that has the effects of alcohol, benzos are your best bet (Most notably Valium, xanax, ativan, klonopin). If taken in moderation you shouldnt have a problem with blackouts, its when you start taking large amounts and mixing it with alcohol do blackouts become a problem. And I highly doubt you have access or the chemistry knowledge to acquire/produce to GHB or GBL(both are much, much more toxic then benzos).

Benzos FTW

~dU$tY

Benzos blow. Either you get too fucked up and black out, or feel tired. They fucking suck so much cock its not a replacement for alcohol. But that sucks you can't drink man, for a social type thing I don't know what you'd do. Just smoke bud and stuff like that.

Yeahh it does suck. Like I said when I'm high around drunkards it just makes me think they are dumbasses. Besides that sometimes management goes and if they get the hint that you are getting high they will drug test you. Most of the people are cool but some aren't.

If your looking for an easily available drug that has the effects of alcohol, benzos are your best bet (Most notably Valium, xanax, ativan, klonopin). If taken in moderation you shouldnt have a problem with blackouts, its when you start taking large amounts and mixing it with alcohol do blackouts become a problem. And I highly doubt you have access or the chemistry knowledge to acquire/produce to GHB or GBL(both are much, much more toxic then benzos).

I guess I'll try a higher dose of benzos then. I have 30 2mg Valiums prescribed to me, but I'm assuming that isn't enough to do shit.

Do you get the slurred speech and overall hard to walk feeling?

depends really, on xanax i can walk talk and do basic shit, with klonopin however its like almost killing off a bottle minus the throwing up. slurred speech stumbling all that stuff does happen on the klonopin though but with alcohol i feel very hot like i have a fever hot klonopin doesn't do that. but be careful i took them every day for 2 months last year i gave up placing it back together

If you're going to use any kind of benzo to mimic the effects of alcohol, diazepam (Valium) is your best bet in my opinion. It's always produced more of a "body buzz" for me than the other commercial benzos and isn't stupidly powerful to the point where one pill can mean the difference between chilling and blacking out (Xanax...).

To be honest with you, you'd probably find GHB/GBL more similar in overall effect but as was said, it's a lot more toxic than benzos and a hell of a lot more dangerous in the hands of someone who may not possess the finesse and know-how needed to dose the shit properly...and getting out of hand and deciding you need another three or four Valiums when you don't is not the same thing as deciding you need another 3 or 4 ml of GBL.

Personally I prefere Benzo's over alcahol anyway. It's kinda like a lucid drunkedness unless it's in really high doses. Don't go to high though, I probably have lost at least 24 houres of my memory to benzo's in the last year

I guess I'll try a higher dose of benzos then. I have 30 2mg Valiums prescribed to me, but I'm assuming that isn't enough to do shit.

if your gonnna devote them all to reacreational use, you can get really high, once.

or hardly high, twice.

And I highly doubt you have access or the chemistry knowledge to acquire/produce to GHB or GBL(both are much, much more toxic then benzos).

Benzos FTW

~dU$tY

i hope that was not a swing at me. GBL is not easy to get, but if you CAN quote-on-fucking-quote then it beats the shit out of any benzo or alcohol.

GBL is not easy to get

True, but it's not really hard, either; assuming someone is searching in the right places, of course.

True, but it's not really hard, either; assuming someone is searching in the right places, of course.

It's very easy to get, it you know what to look for. I generally wouldn't recommend fucking around with GBL for most people on BLTC. I guess because well... when some have trouble enough getting their heads 'round the concept of a pipe... an industrial solvent which is dose responsive at like 0.2ml isn't great to be playing with.

People only buy GBL in the U.K cos it's legal, unlike GHB which is class C and harder to get (unfortunately, gbl is much more horrible stuff...), but actually they're making L illegal too, in future so who knows. GHB can be pretty fun, and it's definitely euphoric enough, and lowers inhibitions enough to be a replacement for alcohol. It's also horribly physically addictive, and quite dangerous if you don't know the dose, or mix with opiates/benzos/alcohol etc.

Have you tried K? Low doses (small bumps) make you quite active and up-for-it like alcohol, I find. Pretty fun, as long as you're careful. Higher doses of ketamine definitely aren't "social".

Though it is not really the same type of buzz as alcohol, I always found blowin a few lines of coke would always have me in for a good night. it would definitely make me more sociable. So go buy some coke and have a good time with your friends from work.

Coke? I don't think you could get more opposite effects if you tried.

Eh, I'd probably say valium, but at the same time I really wouldn't over do it. Shit can get addictive pretty fast...

I don't drink myself, apart from maybe a beer or two when I'm out... but alot of my friends do. I usually just start the night off with a few bong rips and keep a joint or two on me to keep it going through the night, while eveyone else drinks. Works fine for me, odviously you wont be on the same level as eveyone else- but its still cool. Alcohol is overrated anyways...

I heard low doses of PCP can have effects similar to alcohol

Sneak off to the toilets to suck on that glass dick. You'll be the life of the party.

Ghb ftw

It's very easy to get, it you know what to look for.

This is true. GBL is easy to get, and when you get it, you'd be stupid not to make GHB.

if you dont want to drink but wanna feel drunk take some god damn somas. those will fuck you up if you take enough of em (6+ with no tolerence) but in lower doses you will be feelin a good buzzed/drunk that is almost exactly the same as alcohol.

Excuse me, Im not familiar with your condition; Why exactly are you unable to drink alcohol?

If its a gastro-intestinal problem then i would suggest looking into a nebulizer. Its a device that turns alcohol into vapor, which you then inhale. The effects are exactly the same as drinking alcohol except that it takes far less to get equally hammered.

For this reason nebulizers that are intended to be used for alcohol are illegal in some states. However, they are also used to deliver pulmonary medicine to people with certain lung problems, so they are still widely avialable. I got mine because my girlfriend at the time had an ongoing lung condition and had been given a new one every year or so.

You might look a little weird sucking on the thing all night, but in my experience the novelty of "smoking alcohol" is quite appealing to many people, which makes it a hit at parties.

ketamine?

i didn't read the whole thread, idlk if anyone has said it yet.

at LOW doses it can feel fairly similar to being drunk.

ive only done it once, and didn't do a lot, but i felt similar to being drunk.

don't go into a k hole though, if you want it to feel like alcohol

Fuck benzos. I never understood all the pillheads who said it made them feel social. If you want a less extreme drunk kind of feeling that's really safe, try kava. It's not water soluble, but if you can find a way to brew it right, using a fair amount of it, you can get a good, mellow, 4-5 beers kind of buzz. It also doesn't completely killy your coordination.

This is true. GBL is easy to get, and when you get it, you'd be stupid not to make GHB.

My body does quite a good job at this.

GBL FTW!

Fuck benzos. I never understood all the pillheads who said it made them feel social.

Benzos never made me social, they just made me stop giving a fuck about what anyone thinks/says about me/to me.

I agree with you fuck benzos, but kava doesn't do shit.

Well if you want a drunk like feeling, def ghb is your best bet. Just buy some gbl, NaOH, and pH strips, and make you're ghb

If you don't wanna do that, I'm surprised nobody suggested opiates.

I know they are not very similar to alcohol, but they are sedating, will relax you, and let you have a good time.

Oxy or hydrocodone are good choices, not too strong, but will put you where you wanna be.

Also, see if tramadol does anything for you, it's hit or miss, but if you like it, it's easy to get, and will let you have a good time, feeling fine all the way

Valerian extract will get you drunk as fuck. Complete with nearly passing out if you take enough.

I love all the fucking idiots on this site who just try to bash benzos just because they dont have a good time on them cause you cant dose for shit. Like the people who take too much OC or methadone and end up puking the whole fucking night going 'Fuck opiates, they suck balls'. Most of your guys just took an extra bar or just drank that extra beer that just put you over the line once and now its all 'fuck benzos, you cant even walk straight blah blah' bullshit. Well no fucking shit; I bet that if half of you idiots took a proper dose of benzos you would enjoy them. There are alot worse things out there when it comes to drugs then blackouts. Man the fuck up

And lazer, kava doesnt even come close to the effects of most of the benzos, kava feels like a drank a few shitty beers and im just chillen. And trust me, when your completley benzo'd out of your skull you can be the most social motherfucker at the party. But as POC said, there is not a better drug class on the face of the earth for just not giving a fuck about anything or what anybody says to you. Ahh ;)

BTW- No, that was not aimed at you chemical Eudmonia, that was actually to the OP. For someone asking for an alternative to alcohol I highly doubt he knows how to procure and possibly make GBL, neverless GHB(unless he just finds a site).

~dU$tY

And trust me, when your completley benzo'd out of your skull you can be the most social motherfucker at the party. But as POC said, there is not a better drug class on the face of the earth for just not giving a fuck about anything or what anybody says to you. Ahh ;)
~dU$tY

QFT...I recently got to try Lexotanil (bromazepam) (and Rohypnol, but that's just me bragging :D) and it's my new favourite benzo. It gives you the increased sociability factor of benzos, without the 'if you pop one more, you're going to black out and forget the rest of the night' risk. The best way I can describe it is: a clear-headed drunkenness - you're a lot more sociable like with booze or benzos, but you're more in control of what you say/do. Plus its half-life is MUCH shorter than that of valium, so you won't have a groggy benzo hangover the next day. OP: look into getting some Lexotanil - for your purpose, I would definitely recommend it over valium or any other benzo.

Ebagger, after thinking for a second i realized EXACTLY what you're looking for. DXM (cough syrup) Im really not joking. The effects produced at say 500-800mg is exactly what you want. Effects from that dose are so close to say 10 shots that you really cant feel a difference. The only differnce is instead of 10 shots you need to down 5 shots of cough syrup (easier to get down than hard liquor)

Also that dose is only going to run you like 7 bucks.
The only draw back is that dxm has a nasty habbit of FULLY dialting your pupils. Obvioulsy that's gonna give you away unless you're in a dark bar. But over the counter colored contacts would fix that completely.


Seriously at least look into it.

BTW- No, that was not aimed at you chemical Eudmonia, that was actually to the OP. For someone asking for an alternative to alcohol I highly doubt he knows how to procure and possibly make GBL, neverless GHB(unless he just finds a site).

~dU$tY

ah that's cool then. i doubt he does, too but i figured if he has the motivation to make this post he can spend the same amount of time on google to learn how easy it is to convert (i didn't mean synth GBL up). procuring it is probably harder than that

anything combined with enough stupidity can make you feel drunk.

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