totse.com | scientific explanation for "psi wheels"

Clarphimous · #1 2008-08-18, 20:32

A while back I read information on PsiPog about how to construct and use a psi wheel. I made it, and it began working in about half an hour.
http://www.psipog.net/art-telekinesis-tips.html

I've heard ideas about how convection currents supposedly explain them.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Psi_whe...cs_explanation

But what about cases where the psi wheel is under a glass container? I haven't gotten it to work yet that way, but hopefully I will be able to eventually in order to confirm it for myself.

Anyway, glass prevents gusts of air from moving the psi wheel. That's one thing, but also... glass is a thermal insulator. That's why we can use it for our windows. So long as the user isn't placing their hands against the glass, I'd think the heat from the person's hand would be negligible.

I've heard suggestions that it may work due to electrical or magnetic forces produced by the body. An interesting article I found is here: http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/1353653 (Detection of extraordinary large bio-magnetic field strength from human hand during Qi emission)

It's from some Japanese university, and it's from 1992. I'm not sure how reliable it is, but it looks like a lead.

Any ideas?

Mantikore · #2 2008-08-19, 11:24

well, have you tried putting the psi wheel behind glass?

if you did, and it didnt show any trend as compared to if the glass wasnt there, then the argument for the rejection of telekinesis is stronger

Issue313 · #3 2008-08-20, 23:19

You should be able to control the psi wheel. If it spins when you hold your hand in a certain way it would be due to convection or air current caused by evaporation or ionic effects. You should be able to move and stop and reverse it at will.

rubisco · #4 2008-08-25, 08:27

First post!
Anyway, read

http://www.thekeyboard.org.uk/Uncove...i%20wheel.html

for some tests of thermal currents and psi wheels. Shows that the common method of hands next to psi wheel cause it to move through some thermal interaction.

This youtube video

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H5NwRfMJgOQ

shows the psi wheel being moved under glass. The video does appear to be 'jumpy' in places, however I can't see how this could be done by trickery yet.

So far it looks like it MIGHT be possible, but who knows. Keep practicing and post a video if you manage to do this =)

Clarphimous · #5 2008-08-26, 05:16

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Originally Posted by rubisco View Post

First post!
Anyway, read

http://www.thekeyboard.org.uk/Uncove...i%20wheel.html

for some tests of thermal currents and psi wheels. Shows that the common method of hands next to psi wheel cause it to move through some thermal interaction.

This youtube video

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H5NwRfMJgOQ

shows the psi wheel being moved under glass. The video does appear to be 'jumpy' in places, however I can't see how this could be done by trickery yet.

So far it looks like it MIGHT be possible, but who knows. Keep practicing and post a video if you manage to do this =)

I found that latter video not long ago, and after looking it up found out that it was faked. The author said how he did it on some forum. He'd have to be VERY good at telekinesis to do something like that, anyway.

When I put a glass container around the pinwheel it does stop working... so apparently it works against whatever effect is taking place. But on the other hand, it works (albeit more slowly) when my hand is 3 or 4 inches away. And often it can start up almost immediately after I put my hand next to it.

http://www.psipog.net/media-annie.html

Here's one of Annie doing it with a glass cover. One thing she does, though, is touch the glass with her fingertips. I'm not sure what effect that has on it. How long would it take to heat up the air under the glass by doing that?

I have an idea. My attic at my home can get up to 110°F. If I could perform it there with the same reaction, would that show something? There's a thermometer to tell what the current temperature is.

Quageschi · #6 2008-08-26, 05:31

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crookes_radiometer

I would guess a psi wheel works on similar principles.

Real.PUA · #7 2008-08-26, 06:47

Not only is she touching the glass but she also shakes it to get the thing spinning.

Prometheus · #8 2008-09-04, 21:56

Maybe telekenetic energy can't move through glass...

Issue313 · #9 2008-09-05, 18:35

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Originally Posted by Quageschi View Post

I would guess a psi wheel works on similar principles.

Why? 5

cronic5 · #10 2008-09-07, 15:35

Uhh, well I claim that all psychic powers are fake.

Being a magician (yeah...a magician, this seems to come up on totse more and more now), I can perform any of these psiwheel effects using perfectly ordinary and common objects, all I have to do is make you think I am doing something paranormal, when it is in fact an illusion.

Some of these people are convinced there are psiwheels, but I can gurantee anything that can be done using "psiwheels" I can do with some sort of trickery.

This further leads me to believe it is all totally fake.