If you were going pharmacy shopping for a product with recreational ability just to make you feel good and relaxed and just genuinely euphoric what would you get. I have a bit of weed but i was hoping for that just to be a Potentiator for the pharmaceutical. DXM and weed is of course a great combination. But as with anything it gets old. If i could I'd just drink but i really feel like hitting the local CVS and trying something new. Does benadryl produce any euphoria at moderate doses of say 300mg? Im not looking for full blown datura delirium here though.


BTW i know this post makes me a noob with OTC pharms. But im being genuine with this so please be helpful or at least funny if you're going to flame. Anyone can get high on illegal/controlled drugs, it takes a lot more knowledge to be able to do it with OTC.

You can always try for things like blue lotus, morning glories, and other plants for a sedating euphoric high. And in personal experiences diphenhydramine will cause you to fall asleep unless you break through.

in before lock and or ban.

hmm, i always thought benadryl was almost decent at higher doses. it doesn't really compare to real drugs, and should be used as a potentiator/anti-allergy/sleep aide most of the time. but if you have nothing else, i wouldn't mind it.

there's also DXM as you mentioned, maybe codeine (depends where you live, i can't get it OTC here in california), morning glory (lsa seeds, extraction recommended), and of course, alcohol!

the best i'd recommend is to smoke however much weed you need to get high + 50-150mg benadryl + however much alcohol you can handle before puking your guts out. that seems like a nice euphoric combo, at least to me.

kratom seems like what your lookin for. But thats only by mail unless you live in Thailand

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What rule could this possibly be breaking?

hmm, i always thought benadryl was almost decent at higher doses. it doesn't really compare to real drugs, and should be used as a potentiator/anti-allergy/sleep aide most of the time. but if you have nothing else, i wouldn't mind it.

there's also DXM as you mentioned, maybe codeine (depends where you live, i can't get it OTC here in california), morning glory (lsa seeds, extraction recommended), and of course, alcohol!

the best i'd recommend is to smoke however much weed you need to get high + 50-150mg benadryl + however much alcohol you can handle before puking your guts out. that seems like a nice euphoric combo, at least to me.


I know benadryl potentiates with opiates but with weed an alcohol would it just mostly be three separate effects laying on top of each other? I guess what im really asking is what effects does benadryl have with lower dosages? I was under the impression its only claim to fame was hallucinations at say 600-1000mg.

You can always try for things like blue lotus, morning glories, and other plants for a sedating euphoric high..

your not gonna find those at CVS

And in personal experiences diphenhydramine will cause you to fall asleep unless you break through.

in my experiences, diphen is horrible. unless you enjoy feeling like crap, and being weighed down, then unable to sleep.

IMO, the best otc your going to get is dxm, but still, get yourself some real drugs.

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What rule could this possibly be breaking?




I know benadryl potentiates with opiates but with weed an alcohol would it just mostly be three separate effects laying on top of each other? I guess what im really asking is what effects does benadryl have with lower dosages? I was under the impression its only claim to fame was hallucinations at say 600-1000mg.

well, benadryl at those low doses i would consider to be a possible potentiator for those two. when i take 50-100mg benadryl, it gets me kinda tired and makes me feel good for a little. if you wanna trip, then take 500mg or more at once but you most likely won't have a euphoric ride. you'll more so feel heavy, uncomfortable, dirty, and quite possibly "hallucinate", which i have yet to experience on benadryl. i have passed out on it though.

Meth and heroin are the first two that pop into mind. Yes, they are OTC, if you know the score.

you talkin about maybe something like valerian root?

after taking some of those i feel comfortable and strangely clean. goes pretty well with marijuana but something more intense would be better.

I tried valerian root for sleep recently, and that shit smells GOD FUCKING AWFUL. As to it's efficacy, I don't know if it was the morphine, or the valerian that worked, but I sure the fuck slept.

I enjoy a dose of Unisom sleep aid with a couple shots of vodka sometimes. If I want to stay up I just take the vodka! Those 'all natural' sleeping pills are nice, try those with a hurricaine.

I tried valerian root for sleep recently, and that shit smells GOD FUCKING AWFUL. As to it's efficacy, I don't know if it was the morphine, or the valerian that worked, but I sure the fuck slept.

its weird whenever i take valerian root i feel oddly clean like i just took a long shower and am now drinking tea with slippers on and a bathrobe

not the same feeling like opiates more open like opiates feel more like a warm blanket in a snow storm, but valerian is like colder i dunno how to explain it hahha oh and minus euphoria and body buzz

If you can get those "stamina" or whatever the fuck pills they tend to sell in American 7-11 type stores they usually contain some form of psychoactive.

Or you could by a shitload of BZP containing worm meds

Well, tagamet HB has been shown (http://www.totse.com/community/showthread.php?t=2007854) to potentiate cannabis quite a bit.

You could experiment with JP's phenylalanine combo, but I didn't get anywhere with it personally.

OTC pharms (http://www.erowid.org/smarts/smarts.shtml) I hear tryptophan goes well if you potentiate it, use MAOIs, and a bunch of other shit, just search for tryptophan here and do your research.

There's a fascinating tryptophan thread in LT right now, all you'd need to make XXT is tryptophan, bleach, ammonia, your ketone/aldehyde (for example acetone for DiPT) and (the non-OTC one) sodium borohydride. You could do the same with 5-OH-Tryptophan, and thus make a chemical even shulgin couldn't achieve--5-AcO-DALT, which according to reports (http://www.erowid.org/chemicals/5meo_dalt/5meo_dalt_info1.shtml) could hit the brain in minutes, even when taken orally . First step's the hydride though, and before messing around with allyl alcohol (tough to oxidize) or vinyl aldehyde (nasty), you should probably try acetylating 5-OH-DiPT/MiPT, which are damn good chemicals in themselves. Fuck, I told myself not to get into chemistry in this forum.

I tried valerian root for sleep recently, and that shit smells GOD FUCKING AWFUL. As to it's efficacy, I don't know if it was the morphine, or the valerian that worked, but I sure the fuck slept.

Smells like ass don it?

I drank about half a bottle of scotch the other night and downed six or seven caps of valberian for the fuck of it and felt really angry not long after....

i know many inhalers and vapor rubs have Levo methamphetamine but can you explain on the heroin part or any opiates stronger than codeine for that matter

For valerian, if you have the capsules, break them open and mix them with tea. They actually go well together. I've used valerian as a substitute for xanax, works wonders for me. Very relaxing, calming effect but that could just be me. Melatonin at higher doses 9-15mg gives me some vivid fuckin dreams, like I'm trippin in my sleep. I don't recommend taking that much to start though. Now the combination of valerian and melatonin works as well for some vivid/lucid dreams. Not sayin it'll work for everyone, just my expierence.

i know many inhalers and vapor rubs have Levo methamphetamine but can you explain on the heroin part or any opiates stronger than codeine for that matter

i think you mean l-methamfetamine (what it is called now in the usa)....which is in no way comparable to meth.

Kava Kava and Valerian are good for relaxation. Try and find a place that sells the actual root rather than using the pills.
Kratom (not OTC but easy to obtain) works for some and doesn't for others..best results i've gotten is when taken before smoking some good pot.

I couldn't ever call Diphenhydramine (benadryl) euphoric in any way. The visuals are good but the body high is pure dog shit and prevents any kind of enjoyment IMO.

i know many inhalers and vapor rubs have Levo methamphetamine but can you explain on the heroin part or any opiates stronger than codeine for that matter

You can make heroin from codeine. It's quite easy, actually; Panthrax had a writeup on it.

You can make heroin from codeine. It's quite easy, actually; Panthrax had a writeup on it.

Isn't the conversion like 1g codeine to .001g heroin though? Not sayin you're wrong, just sayin it aint worth it.

Despite that, codeine is not available, (in the usa at least),over the counter in any significant concentration. I know what he means by meth, but I'm still wondering about what SN said about the heroin as well.




P.S.
*Compliments on the good thread despite the, what seemed to be, noobish topic.

Despite that, codeine is not available, (in the usa at least),over the counter in any significant concentration. I know what he means by meth, but I'm still wondering about what SN said about the heroin as well.

possibly being able to buy poppy seeds? That is the only thing that comes to mind...

Isn't the conversion like 1g codeine to .001g heroin though? Not sayin you're wrong, just sayin it aint worth it.

The yield is shit, but it's not that low.

Oh, and coincidentally I remembered the URL:

http://panthrax.host.sk/heroin_make.html

God damn every thing he writes is fail.

lol, and who would this be? not me i hope, i haven't really written much here until recently...

I'm pretty sure he's talking about panthrax.


SN please shed some light on what you said before.

he hasn't even posted in this thread...???

he hasn't even posted in this thread...???

Someone linked to something of his a few posts up. He's an old BLTCer

Panthrax. Because he tends to spread a number of bullshit rumors.

oh, lol i got it...the guy who wrote the tutorial.

i think you mean l-methamfetamine (what it is called now in the usa)....which is in no way comparable to meth.

yes but im sure it wouldn't be too difficult to change it to d-meth

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What rule could this possibly be breaking?




I know benadryl potentiates with opiates but with weed an alcohol would it just mostly be three separate effects laying on top of each other? I guess what im really asking is what effects does benadryl have with lower dosages? I was under the impression its only claim to fame was hallucinations at say 600-1000mg.


Dude, don't drink when you take benadryl. It's a good way to fall asleep fast as fuck, feel like shit, and not remember your night. And I don't think I have to warn you about Tylenol PMs with alcohol...If you drink with the diphenhydramine, keep them both moderate, less than what you'd usually do for both of them, and make sure it doesn't have Tylenol/Ibuprofen in it.

i think you mean l-methamfetamine (what it is called now in the usa)....which is in no way comparable to meth.

Poppy seeds and meth. Not fucking l-meth. You can make meth OTC with pills. It takes chemistry, but it's like the easiest of all rec. drug synthesis.

yes but im sure it wouldn't be too difficult to change it to d-meth
No. It's not worth it.

Oxycodone can be made with pretty nice yields from codiene. It's mind fuckingly easy tambien.

jam's locker sorta speak? its a relic of an old era...

http://www.totse.com/en/drugs/otc/index.html

Poppy seeds and meth. Not fucking l-meth. You can make meth OTC with pills. It takes chemistry, but it's like the easiest of all rec. drug synthesis.


No. It's not worth it.

Oxycodone can be made with pretty nice yields from codiene. It's mind fuckingly easy tambien.

well OP was talking about OTC so the meth gets kicked out due to the fact that not everybody has access to chems and equipment shit i would say fuck the meth and just huff some ether. (dont like amps) and not everyone has months to grow poppies, then score and then convert to oxy or morphine and finally heroin

jam's locker sorta speak?

"40 mg OxyContin really has 80 mg of oxycodone in it".

Where would we be without Jam?