For the mods just waiting to lock my thread:
I am not asking for a source!

Now, on to my post.
I've been searching for ages and every time I think I've found something I check with a vendor database and I find that it either does not exist in the databse or the database says its a scam.
Now, my quesion is are there any legit sources in existance anywhere that I could find by inspecting the corners of everything I find by searching with google, then searching the corners of everything I found through my search results?
or is it completely hopeless and I should give up now instead of wasting my youth searching online...

The legitimate sources are very difficult to find, because many of them simply aren't on google. They do a good job hiding behind the scenes.

Something that's held true to me is whenever I stop looking for something, it'll suddenly show itself to me. I'd advise not spending too much time desperately searching, because as I said, they're quite difficult to find.

Fuck supplier database sites, you are only fucking those suppliers you find that might actually be legit. Stop using those fucking databases.

In other words its hopeless.

This, and

In other words its hopeless.

Yes.

I managed to find ONE legit supplier... problem is that it takes a month for the chemical to reach my doorstep... assuming I live on the same continent and in the same country. I don't live there anymore.

Would the legit suppliers simply appear to be a supplier for chemicals other than the fun ones and simply supply the research chem on request?

It's not hopeless, you just have to make friends with the right people. I personally never cared about sources, won't order online, I prefer face to face, so I never bother to keep what I come across, or what people show me.


You have to get them from word of mouth, and trust the mouths it comes from, and in order to get it, they have to trust YOU to keep that secret. So, yeah, make friends, prove yourself to the right folks. How do you find those folks? Stick around and make friends with everyone.

Definately hopeless... I barely speak the language.

Thanks for the input though.

Definately hopeless... I barely speak the language.



Do they have hippies in austria? Find hippies.

I haven't seen any hippies. The only unusual looking types I've seen here so far are alcoholics, either drinking or passed out in a pile of beer cans, and junkies, skinny as shit and always insisting that you buy something you can't see.
I don't even know what an Austrian hippy would look like.

For the mods just waiting to lock my thread:
I am not asking for a source!

yeah and i'm genghis khan reincarnated

obviously if people have RCs there are legit sources. what do you think, kids are just whipping up 2c-x's in their basement with their home chemistry set?

try asking the CIA, i'm sure they can help you out

I'll sell you a source for $300.

yeah and i'm genghis khan reincarnated

obviously if people have RCs there are legit sources. what do you think, kids are just whipping up 2c-x's in their basement with their home chemistry set?

try asking the CIA, i'm sure they can help you out

So... where did I ask for a source?
Where did I ask if the sources exist?
Are you sure I didn't ask if its still possible to find a source by myself?

I think I'd rather throw $100 to a company I found through searching the internet.

Edit: I'll buy an Austrian hippy for $150.

So... where did I ask for a source?
Where did I ask if the sources exist?
Are you sure I didn't ask if its still possible to find a source by myself?

you fail at being subtle

use some logic next time, it won't kill you.

pretty soon we'll have a thread saying "is it really possible to find someone who grows weed?"

you fail at being subtle

use some logic next time, it won't kill you.

pretty soon we'll have a thread saying "is it really possible to find someone who grows weed?"

You're reading too far into my simple question. I was just asking if I should give up looking now before I waste time that could've been spent finding weed... unless you're itching to give me a source there's no reason to think that I'm asking you to give me one.

Edit: Are you going to tell me I winked or something while asking a question through a text based medium?

There are quite a few legit sources to be found on google. About a month ago I ordered some mephedrone and menthylone from the Uk. I live in the US and it showed up in my mailbox within 4 days

OK, enough about whether or not it is hopeless to search online for legit suppliers... that might have been too difficult for certain people to comprehend.

What about the DEA shutting down overseas suppliers?
Does that ever happen?
(by "overseas suppliers" I mean the vendors located in countries where the law doesn't cover the research chemicals that they supply, the vendors that don't care if that chemical is illegal in the country that it is being shipped to because the worst that would happen is the package getting confiscated and the customer being watched.)

Well I'll be damned...

I'll have to find said company, seems as though its legal everywhere except for the USA and Israel. Thank god I don't live in either of those countries.

*packs my bags and sets off on a random train-based adventure to the UK*

your not american, therefore not a DEA target. your either gonna have to gamble some of your money on what you've found or just keep on wondering if they're legit or not...


databases have not only become breeding grounds for manipulation on both vendors and users, but a target for feds. again not too much of an issue in austria...


by the way, you could be more subtle as POC was going at. starting a thread by asking us not to close it, is almost like striking matches soaked in kerosene. call this preventive, but your question has been answered, and before someone comes in here asking for either sources or database info, closed.