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Old 2008-08-14, 01:41
shadowmartyr shadowmartyr is offline
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Default Acetaminophen/Codeine (T3) Use

So I am really enjoying the opiates here lately. Due to a recent surgery I got prescribed immediate release 10mg Oxycodone. Which was fun for awhile until I ran out. The doc can't call in a prescription because it has to be hand written..so no more of it for me it looks like..

Instead he wrote a script for a generic Tylenol 3 (ACETAMINOPHEN-CODEINE ). I know it's definately not as powerful opiate as the oxy, but has anyone had ANY luck getting anything out of this stuff?

The tablets are 30mg each and I powdered up and parachuted two of them. Nothing yet but then again I ate a big supper..

I know anything above 2g of acetaminophen is suppose to really fuck with your liver..so..any suggestions Totse?



Edit: Also, any suggestions for the dosage and inject method for the codeine? I know oxy is best for me just parachuting..I need advice on this stuff though.
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Old 2008-08-14, 01:49
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Default Re: Acetaminophen/Codeine (T3) Use

So I am really enjoying the opiates here lately. Due to a recent surgery I got prescribed immediate release 10mg Oxycodone. Which was fun for awhile until I ran out. The doc can't call in a prescription because it has to be hand written..so no more of it for me it looks like..

Instead he wrote a script for a generic Tylenol 3 (ACETAMINOPHEN-CODEINE ). I know it's definately not as powerful opiate as the oxy, but has anyone had ANY luck getting anything out of this stuff?

The tablets are 30mg each and I powdered up and parachuted two of them. Nothing yet but then again I ate a big supper..

I know anything above 2g of acetaminophen is suppose to really fuck with your liver..so..any suggestions Totse?

Actually I believe 5g is the LD for Acetaminophen, codeine doesn't really do alot for me. I took about 6 tablets of 30mg of codeine and 500mg acetaminophen just recently. All it really did was made me relaxed, and sleepy. Nothing exciting about it really
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Old 2008-08-14, 01:50
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Default Re: Acetaminophen/Codeine (T3) Use

google....erowid...search button....
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Old 2008-08-14, 01:51
shadowmartyr shadowmartyr is offline
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Default Re: Acetaminophen/Codeine (T3) Use

google....erowid...search button....

Did. Not much on T3s except people taking above 3g's..which fucks your liver up. Erowid is always the first place you should look.
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Old 2008-08-14, 01:59
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Default Re: Acetaminophen/Codeine (T3) Use

Did. Not much on T3s except people taking above 3g's..which fucks your liver up. Erowid is always the first place you should look.


anyway, you should be fine with 4g a day, but i wouldnt exceed that very often. besides, codeine isnt that great of a drug IMO
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Old 2008-08-14, 02:35
PandaOfAMan PandaOfAMan is offline
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Default Re: Acetaminophen/Codeine (T3) Use

FFS, do a CWE on them.

http://www.geocities.com/sowildaboutharry/extraction.html
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Old 2008-08-14, 02:49
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Default Re: Acetaminophen/Codeine (T3) Use

Actually I believe 5g is the LD for Acetaminophen

Wrong-o

Did. Not much on T3s except people taking above 3g's..which fucks your liver up. Erowid is always the first place you should look.

No you didn't.
There is TONS of stuff in this forum and on google about T3s. And about the hazards of APAP, the truth about which is that it's not recommended to be taken in excess of 4g DAILY. Many people have taken single doses of tylenol 2-3+ times that and been perfectly alright. If you're still worried, though, do a CWE.

Take four of those pills and see where that takes you, and then bump it up as necessary.
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Old 2008-08-14, 04:52
ak-kapocsi ak-kapocsi is offline
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Default Re: Acetaminophen/Codeine (T3) Use

http://www.erowid.org/pharms/codeine/codeine_faq.shtml


do a cwe on like 10 pills



trust me, codeine really isn't fun after you've done better opiates/opiods
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Old 2008-08-14, 05:27
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Default Re: Acetaminophen/Codeine (T3) Use

Firstly 5g or apap wont kill you. Also, codeine is a unique and fun as fuck opiate. It has a unique feeling, very rushy, better in this aspect than oxycodone. It feels limited in that your problems wont simply melt away but rather it boosts pleasurable situations and feels VERY euphoric in a rather unique manner. It actually feels what most drugs do when snorted but when you eat it. It does not last long though, only bout an hr for the great aspect of the high, after this expect to feel happy and chilled out. You wont nod but will be very happy and gifted with a unique, rushy opiate high. I realise codeine simply converts to morphine in the liver but it feels very different.

I would say if you have little to no tolerance take a minimal of 5 pills but no more than 7. Codeine itches like no other opiate partially because of some other inactive ingredient in it which I forget. Take Diphen on this one to GREATLY enhance an already sure to be great time.
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Old 2008-08-14, 16:44
shadowmartyr shadowmartyr is offline
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Default Re: Acetaminophen/Codeine (T3) Use

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Originally Posted by PandaOfAMan
FFS, do a CWE on them.

http://www.geocities.com/sowildaboutharry/extraction.html


I wasn't really looking for a codeine extraction method but thanks for the link anyway.

Well I ended up chewing 4 and subbing the other 2. Mild euhporia at best but more of a physical trip so to speak..kind of sucked.

I will try that CWE method though, thanks.
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Old 2008-08-14, 20:32
delerium tremens delerium tremens is offline
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Default Re: Acetaminophen/Codeine (T3) Use

Ok first of all its not gonna kill your liver, I regularly use 18-26 pills often with alcohol. The worst that can happen is that you puke while your coming down, and feel a little lazy the next day.

Mixing with diphy, alcohol or a small bit of skunk is cool, but not quite the same as codeine on its own. I recomend washing it all down with tonic water (quinine potentiates it).
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Old 2008-08-14, 20:38
Von Bass Von Bass is offline
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Default Re: Acetaminophen/Codeine (T3) Use

Do a CWE, its such little effort and your liver is a very valuable organ. Also I only skimmed this thread, but I saw you mentioned injecting codeine, never IV codeine. I personally need 250mg of codeine to feel anything really, dihydrocodeine is a worthwhile and tiny step up, it is much more euphoric.
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Old 2008-08-14, 21:46
Miluardo Miluardo is offline
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Default Re: Acetaminophen/Codeine (T3) Use

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Originally Posted by delerium tremens
Ok first of all its not gonna kill your liver, I regularly use 18-26 pills often with alcohol. The worst that can happen is that you puke while your coming down, and feel a little lazy the next day.

Mixing with diphy, alcohol or a small bit of skunk is cool, but not quite the same as codeine on its own. I recomend washing it all down with tonic water (quinine potentiates it).


Are you serious? That's fucking retarded. I want to see you later on in your life when you'll actually be able to see the damage you're doing. It's not going to make you drop dead or anything it's going to hit you when you're body is past the halfway point and is TRYING to live, instead of just kinda living.

You certainly know how to do it right though.

I don't see why you subbed any of them. It's 90% bioavailable orally.

EDIT: Just because I'm kinda douchey, did you know you spelled delirium wrong?
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Old 2008-08-15, 00:51
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Default Re: Acetaminophen/Codeine (T3) Use

Ok first of all its not gonna kill your liver, I regularly use 18-26 pills often with alcohol. The worst that can happen is that you puke while your coming down, and feel a little lazy the next day.


um.....the worst that can happen is you dying from liver failure
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Old 2008-08-15, 04:35
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Default Re: Acetaminophen/Codeine (T3) Use

CWE for sure.

Basic directions:

1) Crush Pills into a fine powder while minimizing powder loss.

SWIM basically puts pills into a thick ziplock bag, and puts that inside another ziplock bag just for extra leakage protection. SWIM uses a sharpening stone (for knives) to crush his pills by rolling / pressing onto them. You can get creative here and do whatever you want, use a brick, use a hammer even, whatever works to crush the pills without puncturing the ziplocks.

2) Dissolve the crushed powder into warm/hot water.

Get hot water from the tap, but not too hot -- in between warm and hot is perfect. Don't use boiling water unless you want to kill it. Put it in a container or bowl with a wide surface area (cools faster) and add the powder you crushed (you can simply cut the corner of the ziplock and pipe it in... easy and no mess. Some stuff sticks to the plastic, but i think it's negligable. The amount of water here should probably be 3/4 of a cup, you can start with that and experiment... it's better to add too much water than too little or it won't filter properly later.

3) Let mixture sit until it becomes room temperature (10-20 mins)

Cooling it too quickly harms it, let it sit for a bit, doesn't have to be 100% room temp, but just let it cool awhile

4) Move the container into the freezer for 20 mins or so

This is where the magic happens, you can remove the container from the freezer when you touch it and it feels cold. In between 20-30 mins should do the trick.

5) Filter the solution through coffee filters to seperate the liquid containing the opiate (and caffeine if you're using tylenol) from the APAP

We want to filter this as quick as possible, so get three seperate cups or jars and fit them with a pre-wet coffee filter, use a rubber band if necessary to hold the filter in place and to stop it from falling into the cup.

Distribute the solution you just took from the freezer across the three cups, now you are basically filtering at 3 times the speed.

6) When it looks like it's not dripping anymore you can squeeze the contents in the filters through a 4th coffee filter to get any remaining moisture out... don't spill any of the residue into the liquid solution though. What you are left with after filtering is marshmellow like substance but it's more dense.

At this point some people add a little water to the marshmellow residue and re-filter it, but i dont think it's necessary... it's time to consume.

7) You now have a solution with most (if not all) of the APAP removed.


8) Enjoy.
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Old 2008-08-17, 23:02
delerium tremens delerium tremens is offline
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Default Re: Acetaminophen/Codeine (T3) Use

Are you serious? That's fucking retarded. I want to see you later on in your life when you'll actually be able to see the damage you're doing. It's not going to make you drop dead or anything it's going to hit you when you're body is past the halfway point and is TRYING to live, instead of just kinda living.

You certainly know how to do it right though.

I don't see why you subbed any of them. It's 90% bioavailable orally.

EDIT: Just because I'm kinda douchey, did you know you spelled delirium wrong?

Well first I really don't expect to see any significant bad effects, the human body isn't made of glass. When your past the halfway point everything falls apart anyway. Anyway, if we don't see some cool medical technology apearing in the next 20 years I have healthy family members that would donate.

Also, I had no idea I spelt that wrong.
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Old 2008-08-18, 05:47
Miluardo Miluardo is offline
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Default Re: Acetaminophen/Codeine (T3) Use

Well first I really don't expect to see any significant bad effects, the human body isn't made of glass. When your past the halfway point everything falls apart anyway. Anyway, if we don't see some cool medical technology apearing in the next 20 years I have healthy family members that would donate.

Also, I had no idea I spelt that wrong.

'tis your body. Enjoy.
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Old 2008-08-18, 22:49
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Default Re: Acetaminophen/Codeine (T3) Use

Quote:
Originally Posted by Before the Opiate
CWE for sure.

Basic directions:

1) Crush Pills into a fine powder while minimizing powder loss.

SWIM basically puts pills into a thick ziplock bag, and puts that inside another ziplock bag just for extra leakage protection. SWIM uses a sharpening stone (for knives) to crush his pills by rolling / pressing onto them. You can get creative here and do whatever you want, use a brick, use a hammer even, whatever works to crush the pills without puncturing the ziplocks.

2) Dissolve the crushed powder into warm/hot water.

Get hot water from the tap, but not too hot -- in between warm and hot is perfect. Don't use boiling water unless you want to kill it. Put it in a container or bowl with a wide surface area (cools faster) and add the powder you crushed (you can simply cut the corner of the ziplock and pipe it in... easy and no mess. Some stuff sticks to the plastic, but i think it's negligable. The amount of water here should probably be 3/4 of a cup, you can start with that and experiment... it's better to add too much water than too little or it won't filter properly later.

3) Let mixture sit until it becomes room temperature (10-20 mins)

Cooling it too quickly harms it, let it sit for a bit, doesn't have to be 100% room temp, but just let it cool awhile

4) Move the container into the freezer for 20 mins or so

This is where the magic happens, you can remove the container from the freezer when you touch it and it feels cold. In between 20-30 mins should do the trick.

5) Filter the solution through coffee filters to seperate the liquid containing the opiate (and caffeine if you're using tylenol) from the APAP

We want to filter this as quick as possible, so get three seperate cups or jars and fit them with a pre-wet coffee filter, use a rubber band if necessary to hold the filter in place and to stop it from falling into the cup.

Distribute the solution you just took from the freezer across the three cups, now you are basically filtering at 3 times the speed.

6) When it looks like it's not dripping anymore you can squeeze the contents in the filters through a 4th coffee filter to get any remaining moisture out... don't spill any of the residue into the liquid solution though. What you are left with after filtering is marshmellow like substance but it's more dense.

At this point some people add a little water to the marshmellow residue and re-filter it, but i dont think it's necessary... it's time to consume.

7) You now have a solution with most (if not all) of the APAP removed.


8) Enjoy.



I recently became interested in doing this, but I'm pretty sure Tylenol 1s are the only ones you can get over the counter. Does anyone know if this is true?


Also, what are your thoughts on evaporating the solution, leaving the codeine powder behind?
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Old 2008-08-19, 00:30
Twisted_Ferret Twisted_Ferret is offline
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Default Re: Acetaminophen/Codeine (T3) Use

I recently became interested in doing this, but I'm pretty sure Tylenol 1s are the only ones you can get over the counter. Does anyone know if this is true?


Also, what are your thoughts on evaporating the solution, leaving the codeine powder behind?
In the U.S., as far as I'm aware, no codeine-containing products are OTC.

I wouldn't bother evaporating it, but I suspect it would probably work.
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Old 2008-08-19, 01:56
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Default Re: Acetaminophen/Codeine (T3) Use

Extract the acetaminophen from the codeine. I had a script for those not too long ago. But I never thought they were good enough to abuse. Codeine pretty much sucks. Unless you take it in high doses. But when I did, it always made my stomach hurt. Try getting a script for hydrocodone. Say the Tylenol 3 doesn't help at all.
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Old 2008-08-19, 04:27
ak-kapocsi ak-kapocsi is offline
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Default Re: Acetaminophen/Codeine (T3) Use

In the U.S., as far as I'm aware, no codeine-containing products are OTC.

I wouldn't bother evaporating it, but I suspect it would probably work.

Here is what I found.
In the United States, codeine is regulated by the Controlled Substances Act. It is a Schedule II controlled substance for pain-relief products containing codeine alone or more than 90 mg per dosage unit. In combination with aspirin or acetaminophen (paracetamol/Tylenol) it is listed as Schedule III or V, depending on formula. Preparations for cough or diarrhea containing small amounts of codeine in combination with two or more other active ingredients are Schedule V in the US, and in some states may be dispensed in amounts up to 4 fl. oz. per 48 hours without a prescription. Schedule V specifically consigns the product to state and local regulation beyond certain required record-keeping requirements (a dispensary log must be maintained for two years in a ledger from which pages cannot easily be removed and/or are pre-numbered and the pharmacist must ask for a picture ID such as a driving licence) and also which maintain controlled substances in the closed system at the root of the régime intended by the Controlled Substances Act of 1970 -- e.g. the codeine in these products was a Schedule II substance when the company making the Schedule V product acquired it for mixing up the end product. In locales where dilute codeine preparations are non-prescription, anywhere from very few to perhaps a moderate percentage of pharmacists will sell these preparations without a prescription. However, many states have their own laws that do require a prescription for Schedule V drugs. Other drugs which are present in Schedule V narcotic preparations like the codeine syrups are ethylmorphine and dihydrocodeine. Paregoric and hydrocodone were transferred to Schedule III from Schedule V even if the preparation contains two or more other active ingredients, and diphenoxylate is usually covered by state prescription laws even though this relative of pethidine is a Schedule V substance when adulterated with atropine to prevent abuse.

Codeine is also available outside the United States as an over-the-counter drug in liquid cough-relief formulations. Internationally, codeine is a Schedule II drug under the Single Convention on Narcotic Drugs.
 
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