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 #1 
Old 2008-08-11, 12:08
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I'm wondering what it'd be lilke dying from taking MDMA?

I appreciate most 'MDMA deaths' arent actually caused from taking MDMA, that other drugs are often involved (but not always - deaths have ocurred in infants who have taken mdma only)... but usually a hefty dose of MDMA is taken too to cause serotonin syndrome, toxic levels of water retention, muscle breakdown (called rhia.. something or other cant remember).

Would the victim be tripping their balls off having a great time and then drop dead? Or would it be a nightmare experience all the way through?

I'd find out myself but obviously dont want to die. Has anyone seen somebody who had od'd on MDMA?
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Old 2008-08-11, 12:14
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I seen someone have a seizure brought on by E.

However, it's always a question of what else is in the E.
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Old 2008-08-11, 12:18
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I believe it would be quite unpleasant.

I imagine severe dehydration leading to a terrible fever. Cold sweats. Racing heart -- which would probably be the cause of death. Too much heart stress.

'Overdose' on LSD would probably be much more "interesting."
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Old 2008-08-11, 12:32
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I imagine you'd just start panicking, your heart would race insanely fast and you'd just cardiac arrest.

I don't really think dying from an OD of any drug would be at all pleasant in the slightest.

Except maybe on a disassociative as you wouldn't really know what was going on.
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Old 2008-08-11, 12:39
Von Bass Von Bass is offline
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I don't really think dying from an OD of any drug would be at all pleasant in the slightest.

Entirely this. The closest I've come to an OD involved too much dihydrocodeine at once, and me collapsing and passing out three times, each time being awoken from the brink of consciousness by my friend slapping my completely numb face, after I apparently spasmed and had my eyes roll back into my skull...

The adrenaline and panicking thing is quite right too; the only time I felt my heart beat at anything other than a weak sluggish thump was when I sat up after waking up outside a house, with no idea where I was.

That is, of course, entirely nothing to do with the thread, what's been said is to my knowledge entirely correct - MDMA has a very, very low toxicity, especially in relation to its active dose. 99% of the time, OD's are brought about by contraindications or whatever else was in the pills they took.
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Old 2008-08-11, 12:45
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Yeah man this shit fucks up party's hard, i remember some chick fell down while dancing at a house party and started have a seizure or someshit, everyone freaked the fuck out, shit got said that shouldn't of and no one knew what to do, either way everything was fucked.
luckily i didn't even know who she was, who's party i was at or even where i was, so my night stayed relatively fucked-free.
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Old 2008-08-11, 13:31
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i remember some chick fell down while dancing at a house party and started have a seizure or someshit, everyone freaked the fuck out, shit got said that shouldn't of and no one knew what to do

I'm assuming she wound up dismembered in the dumpster behind the apartment complex.
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Old 2008-08-11, 16:06
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Originally Posted by LSDPanic
I'm wondering what it'd be lilke dying from taking MDMA?

I appreciate most 'MDMA deaths' arent actually caused from taking MDMA, that other drugs are often involved (but not always - deaths have ocurred in infants who have taken mdma only)... but usually a hefty dose of MDMA is taken too to cause serotonin syndrome, toxic levels of water retention, muscle breakdown (called rhia.. something or other cant remember).

Would the victim be tripping their balls off having a great time and then drop dead? Or would it be a nightmare experience all the way through?

I'd find out myself but obviously dont want to die. Has anyone seen somebody who had od'd on MDMA?


Seizure/convulsion. Nightmare.
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Old 2008-08-11, 16:58
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After seeing someone having a seizure on the floor right in front of me this weekend I would not imagine that death by MDMA would be in any way enjoyable.
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Old 2008-08-11, 20:04
Street_Pharmacist420 Street_Pharmacist420 is offline
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Haven't any of you seen Bad Boys 2?
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Old 2008-08-11, 20:13
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You think dieing from MDMA would be fun? Your retarded. Drugs are fun and all if you take the right amount. Crossing the LD50 would only make it extremely unpleasant. Unless you like seizing like a motherfucker with your heart beating erratically.


Haven't any of you seen Bad Boys 2?

Your really about to bring Will Smith into this conversation?
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Old 2008-08-11, 20:51
Sydney Carton Sydney Carton is offline
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i popped 430mg of adderall, and for the first time in my life went to my parents for help, so I'm guessing it would be close to how i felt when i thought was going into cardiac arrest, fucking all out mortifying, anyone is ignorant and crazy if they think the actual thought of dieing isn't that bad.
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Old 2008-08-11, 21:16
TheHerronDairies TheHerronDairies is offline
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I've gone into convulsions while on a lot of very potent pills,it wasn't very fun. it was like being locked in a pitch black room while i was fighting something that wasn't even there.
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Old 2008-08-12, 02:36
Street_Pharmacist420 Street_Pharmacist420 is offline
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Your really about to bring Will Smith into this conversation?

It was a joke douchbag Roll Eyes (Sarcastic)

And as stated before, your chances from oding on MDMA is few and far between. Unless your snorting/parachuting molly like theres no tomorrow, you shouldnt have a problem unless you way overdue it or your stupid enough to let your body dehydrate/overheat. It's all the other cuts in the e pills that will make you od. Take a couple shitty pills with enough pma in them and say hello to god for me.

~dU$tY
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Old 2008-08-12, 03:33
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your posts seem to be somewhat substantial but please lose the fucking retarded signature it makes you look like an ass.
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Old 2008-08-12, 04:01
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i'd suppose the deaths from mdma would come by mixing other shit with it. i got alcohol/mdma poisoning once about 2 years ago. it was truly unfortunate.
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Old 2008-08-12, 04:35
Street_Pharmacist420 Street_Pharmacist420 is offline
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Originally Posted by IRapeSmallChildren
your posts seem to be somewhat substantial but please lose the fucking retarded signature it makes you look like an ass.


That 'retarded signature' Irapesmallchildren happens to be my tag, you can find it all over NYC if you like. Excuse me Roll Eyes (Sarcastic)

It also pertains to my favorite drug, mind you.

~dU$tY
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Old 2008-08-12, 04:39
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That 'retarded signature' Irapesmallchildren happens to be my tag, you can find it all over NYC if you like. Excuse me Roll Eyes (Sarcastic)

It also pertains to my favorite drug, mind you.

~dU$tY

please dont tell me your favorite drug is 'duster' Roll Eyes (Sarcastic)
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Old 2008-08-12, 04:43
Street_Pharmacist420 Street_Pharmacist420 is offline
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please dont tell me your favorite drug is 'duster' Roll Eyes (Sarcastic)

Sweet Mary mother of god, please tell me your fucking joking?!?!?!

DUST AKA PCP SHERM WET watever the fuck you want to call it.

I need another beer...
 #20 
Old 2008-08-12, 04:51
Hazey Hazey is offline
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Overdoses on Ecstasy or any drug [usually] are not pleasant, but especially those that are stimulants.

When I overdosed on MDMA, after consuming almost a gram of molly, I went into a Grand Maul Seizure.

I arched my back so far that it shattered my invertebrate. I had to wear a cast around my stomach.

My heart also felt as if it was about to jump out my chest as every breath I took seemed to be full of pins and needles.

Opiates, on the other hand..
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Old 2008-08-12, 04:51
Ed Lister Ed Lister is offline
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Hazey overdosed on MDMA if I remember correctly. He walked around in circles in a room while having random seizures for hours. Doesn't sound that fun.
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Old 2008-08-12, 12:41
Ezekiel35 Ezekiel35 is offline
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* Cognitive effects: mental confusion, hypomania, hallucinations, agitation, headache, coma.
* Autonomic effects: shivering, sweating, fever, hypertension, tachycardia, nausea, diarrhea.
* Somatic effects: myoclonus/clonus (muscle twitching), hyperreflexia, tremor.


Sounds like fun...
 #23 
Old 2008-08-12, 12:50
Metaflux Metaflux is offline
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whats the point of this thread? It would probably be a horrible experience.
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Old 2008-08-12, 13:49
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Hazey overdosed on MDMA if I remember correctly. He walked around in circles in a room while having random seizures for hours. Doesn't sound that fun.



Correct. Not the highlight of my career
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Old 2008-08-12, 19:06
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I've had too much MDMA before (pure crystal, not pills or anything, so it was the mandy and nothing else that brought on the effects) and that's unpleasant enough, it wasn't an overdose but it was way above my comfort zone. I panicked hugely, instant overheating from a comfortable temperature to thinking I was going to pass out through heat, my heart rate felt like it tripled, I couldn't focus on anything. Got my head together enough to go and lie on my back in the rain, which did the trick after five minutes of the most horrible rush of my life (quite apart from how shitty I felt, rushing during a freezing-cold rainstorm is strange). That was my own stupid fault anyway, I was buzzing hugely anyway and had been doing lines, and had the e-tarded thought that my last line (~2 minutes ago) wasn't big enough and that I should have a bigger one. I'd never in my life want to actually overdose on it.

Incidentally, I once saw a guy fall to the floor and start convulsing during a festival, at least 90% of people in this tent must have been on E and there was a momentary collective "oh shit what the fuck" moment 'til everyone found out he'd just had a massive hit of nos and it knocked him flat on his back, he was laughing but it looked like a seizure.
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Old 2008-08-12, 19:15
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I arched my back so far that it shattered my invertebrate.

Jesus, I hope he was okay! EEK!
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Old 2008-08-12, 19:37
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overdosing on strait mdma is pretty difficult seen ppl that have rolled themselves to sleep.
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Old 2008-08-12, 19:52
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overdosing on strait mdma is pretty difficult seen ppl that have rolled themselves to sleep.


...that's pretty difficult to do on a stimulant.

I can't sleep even on moderate to low doses of MDMA, and I don't know anyone who can.
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Old 2008-08-12, 20:20
TheHerronDairies TheHerronDairies is offline
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+1 any dose of MDxx wires me for nearly 24 hours.
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Old 2008-08-12, 21:55
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...that's pretty difficult to do on a stimulant.

I can't sleep even on moderate to low doses of MDMA, and I don't know anyone who can.

lol @ inexperience.
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Old 2008-08-12, 22:10
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...that's pretty difficult to do on a stimulant.

I can't sleep even on moderate to low doses of MDMA, and I don't know anyone who can.

Last weekend I fell asleep about an hour after peaking pretty hard on about 200mg and was still rolling pretty strongly when I fell asleep. Strangely I did manage to chew three holes in a rubber air bed whilst I was asleep...
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Old 2008-08-13, 02:16
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When I overdosed on MDMA, after consuming almost a gram of molly, I went into a Grand Maul Seizure.

Not as cool as when I was in the psych ward, when I went into a Darth Maul Seizure which required five IM injections of haldol and ativan throughout the course of the day. Christ, I don't even know how I was still standing after #4. That's about 10mg Ativan and 20mg Haldol altogether. And I don't even take benzo's or anything but weed. I was just pissed off (er, schizoaffective/borderline personality. *slaps forehead* [monotone voice]"We must fully admit that we are ill in order to recover.")

I arched my back so far that it shattered my invertebrate.

Dude, did you snap your wang?
 #33 
Old 2008-08-13, 02:51
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My friend stepped on my pet crab once. Shattered my invertebrate.
 #34 
Old 2008-08-13, 03:14
jamaica0535 jamaica0535 is offline
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i imagine the overheating bit would be a big part of it... too much body heat without enough water, body temps get higher than about 105 and your fucked pretty quickly...

you would probably pass out, go into convulsions, have cardiac trouble... and die..
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Old 2008-08-15, 04:40
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That 'retarded signature' Irapesmallchildren happens to be my tag, you can find it all over NYC if you like. Excuse me Roll Eyes (Sarcastic)

It also pertains to my favorite drug, mind you.

~dU$tY

dude that's all fine and dandy if you tag that all over the place and shit but do you really need to post that on totse i mean its just kinda gay. also out off all the drugs your favorite is fucking shrem? i mean there's better stuff out there.
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Old 2008-08-15, 16:51
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lol @ inexperience.

If you can do enough MDMA that you can sleep while buzzing, I don't want to get there.
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Old 2008-08-15, 23:45
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I go up to raves like every single weekend. Every single saturday night, someone at an events does too much of something. It's not a fun thing to see someone start to wobble around, fall down, and start having a seizure. It's breath-taking, but in a bad way.

I have wondered the same thing as the OP, but I don't really want to ever have to go through what those people are dealing with.

Now, I'm not being a hypocrite at all here, but I do have a decent opinion on the topic. All you need to remember is this word: MODERATION. Don't see "how fucked up" you can get by taking more than you KNOW you can handle to see what the experience is like. When I want to roll, I take one or two pills, 5 being the most i've ever done. Another problem is people buying the drugs are the most oblivious to what they're actually putting in their bodies. Most people into E don't care what kind of cut is in their pills. They're just e pills........

Now, I do know that there are people out there (such as myself) who actually do take their own health and safety into regard and DO test their pills, or at least get them from a trusted source who isn't going to pull any bullshit or tell you misleading information.
That's not the majority though.

People are going to abuse every substance out there, that's a given, and there will ALWAYS be people pushing shit past it's limits. You can't say much against that. BUT, you can help people get educated so they have better information, leading to better judgements (hopefully). This is the case with me. I go to raves, and my main purpose for being there is to sell beans. I do get SO much pleasure from them, but when it comes down to it, it's business. Whenever I sell anyone there anything, I sit down with them and talk to them. Tell them what's in the pills. Tell them how the roll will be. Most importantly, I tell every single person to be safe. You should all do the same.

Oh and btw, with pure MDMA, the roll should last a good 4-5 hours (sometimes longer), and you should be able to sleep that night and eat fine the next day. You'll still be a little drained, but you won't have nearly as bad a comedown as you would if you take pills with unknown substances in them.
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Old 2008-08-16, 06:33
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Utah: Mountains, Mormons, Meth
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http://thedea.org/morgue.html

^ MDMA deaths and how... interesting stuff.
 
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