If LSD is so bad, then why did Albert Hoffman live to be something like 101?

Goddammit.

Theta? Come on now. It's getting too obvious now.

I'm thinking this douche came from Freevibe or something.

http://www.freevibe.com/Drug_Facts/hallucinogens.asp

i love reading this shit... its funny how they group all of the hallucinogens together, yea a high dose of pcp might kill you... but hell a high dose of LSD or mushrooms is far from physically harmful... flashbacks arent that bad, you have to accept the possible consequences to using psychs...

if a friend ever called 911 if i was having a bad acid trip i would hit him with a chair and run off into the night...yea having ambulances and police showing up at your door is a real good thing for someone having a bad trip to see... fuck that shit, be a good friend and try to talk them through it...

hell a high dose of LSD or mushrooms is far from physically harmful...

yeah you're right about the acid but a enough shrooms can kill you. LSD is almost impossible to OD on but shrooms are definitely not, try eating a fucking ounce and you'll see what i mean...

because LSD isn't bad thats why he lived to be 101.

yeah you're right about the acid but a enough shrooms can kill you. LSD is almost impossible to OD on but shrooms are definitely not, try eating a fucking ounce and you'll see what i mean...

Is it just cause it's so nasty?

yeah you're right about the acid but a enough shrooms can kill you. LSD is almost impossible to OD on but shrooms are definitely not, try eating a fucking ounce and you'll see what i mean...

You'll puke horribly but you won't fucking die. Stop sucking.

yeah you're right about the acid but a enough shrooms can kill you. LSD is almost impossible to OD on but shrooms are definitely not, try eating a fucking ounce and you'll see what i mean...

Not true. AFAIK, there has been 1 OD on psilocybin-containing mushrooms, and that was cause the guy ate a species high in baeocystin.

As far as Cubes, Cyanescens, Azurescens, I think the figure is somewhere near twice your body weight in dried mushrooms. Good luck getting that down.

Because LSD isn't physically harmful.

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102

This only happened, half a year ago....

Because its not...

after his death i was reading about him...

someone asked "how have you managed to live such a long life... his response was something like "sometimes you have take the time to stop and be the flowers"

Albert hoffman hated recreational LSD use. It was his problem child.What are you guys even talking about? Recreational LSD use by youth culture in a way destroyed his life's work of pioneering a powerful new form of psych Tx.

And it's plain ignorance to blindly assume that LSD and shrooms are 100% safe. Both substances are vaso-constrictors, which is an unneeded stress on the body. There are counterindications for every active substance.

^^Word.

because LSD isn't bad thats why he lived to be 101.

Because the good die young, and by inventing LSD he was very bad.

Quoted for motherfucking truth.

Seriously I hate all these hippie shitheads who think Albert Hoffman is some kind of acid guru, well in a way he was/is, but goddamn, they destroyed pretty much all chances of it being used in psycho therapy (where it booked good results), and probably some other stuff.

Sorry for my broken english I am just foreign and v drunk but the point comes across right.

In the grand scheme of things, myself and many others I'm sure would hardly consider the drug recreational. By that, I mean that it's not a drug one takes simply to get 'fucked up' or to 'feel good'. I don't even like calling it a drug.

As anyone who has done acid knows, it's a wonderful tool for self discovery, in many aspects. It's undoubtedly an amazing chemical that can have wonderfully profound changes on anyone who explores it.

Because of that, I would say that the way many of us use the drug IS psychotherapeutic in that we use it as a means to clean our minds, alter our perspective (usually positively), and overall self betterment.

edit: this is coming from a 'hippie shithead'.

LSD isn't bad, it's all a matter of opinion. Most people don't like the fact that it "opens" up your mind and can make you challenge the status quo and just shit like that. If you actually did acid, you probably wouldn't be asking a question like that.

And this:
http://www.freevibe.com/Drug_Facts/hallucinogens.asp

i love reading this shit... its funny how they group all of the hallucinogens together, yea a high dose of pcp might kill you... but hell a high dose of LSD or mushrooms is far from physically harmful... flashbacks arent that bad, you have to accept the possible consequences to using psychs...

My mom found out I did acid a "few" times, (it was around 10 at the time, haha), and she pulled up some bullshit site like that. It grouped like MDMA, LSD, Shrooms, PCP, and I think Ketamine all together. She even brought up some bullshit thing about how some girl killed her parents while tripping on 'cid. It's completely fucking ridiculous. But a lot of that shits all based on how you were raised and personal experiences (having a bad trip on acid could definitely make you afraid of it).

Edit: I thought this was really funny, a quote from the posted link:
Hallucinogens can put you in a coma

Every strong trip I've ever had has put me in a coma for a while.

Yea, that's true. Albert Hoffman wasn't some sort of acid guru or anything. he thought there was a lot of potential for it being used in psychotherapy. And also, yes, bad things can happen while tripping, and ingesting almost anything can have some bad effects. However, I think a lot of the "problems" or side effects of using LSD are usually blown way out of proportion. I saw a video where a guy was saying that the only way a person could end their bad trip was to kill themselves (or something to that effect). But I really don't think of acid as a typical "drug". I mean, yea, its a drug, but it's not like coke, or meth, it's a psychedelic, and it can be therapeutic if used correctly. I can't stand it when people think of tripping on acid as a way to get 'fucked up' or 'high'. Almost all of my trips have influenced my life in one way or another. It's actually helped me be a "better" person to some extent.

^ You just paraphrased my post :p

I guess that means you agree, eh? :D

You'll puke horribly but you won't fucking die. Stop sucking.

I've eaten close to half an ounce of shrooms with absolutely no stomach problems whatsoever.

My method was to pour about 8 ounces of apple juice (strong flavor, compared to the smoother taste of orange juice) into a blender, add dried shrooms, turn it on for like 5 minutes on the highest setting, make sure you pulverize the shrooms into the juice.

Next, I added a liter of apple juice to the blender to dilute everything, I turned it on to get everything infused together, and then slugged the whole thing down. I didn't even taste the shrooms, it just tasted like straight apple juice. For a minute I forget I had taken anything because I was really high, but then the carpet started breathing, and I remembered I had just taken shrooms. It was weird forgetting such an obvious and blatant act... but it was just the shrooms and weed fucking with my head together.

I believe this method hit faster than if you had just ate the shrooms normally, because it was pulverized into a sludge, and then diluted into more apple juice to make a normal drink... kind of like coca-cola syrup into carbonated water. I also did this on a very empty stomach, I had eaten a good lunch the day before and that was it until 6 pm when I took the shrooms. I managed to eat something while I was tripping... only afterwards did I realize I had eaten half a raw potato (I HATE potatos). I thought it was the bread of knowledge when I was tripping. I felt eating it unlocked the secrets of existence... it was really bizarre.

I don't think Albert Hoffman took tabs every 2nd day and went partying. Does anyone have figures on how much he used LSD?

No one but he knows how much he did, but he certainly did his fair share.

I've eaten close to half an ounce of shrooms with absolutely no stomach problems whatsoever.

My method was to pour about 8 ounces of apple juice (strong flavor, compared to the smoother taste of orange juice) into a blender, add dried shrooms, turn it on for like 5 minutes on the highest setting, make sure you pulverize the shrooms into the juice.

Next, I added a liter of apple juice to the blender to dilute everything, I turned it on to get everything infused together, and then slugged the whole thing down. I didn't even taste the shrooms, it just tasted like straight apple juice. For a minute I forget I had taken anything because I was really high, but then the carpet started breathing, and I remembered I had just taken shrooms. It was weird forgetting such an obvious and blatant act... but it was just the shrooms and weed fucking with my head together.

I believe this method hit faster than if you had just ate the shrooms normally, because it was pulverized into a sludge, and then diluted into more apple juice to make a normal drink... kind of like coca-cola syrup into carbonated water. I also did this on a very empty stomach, I had eaten a good lunch the day before and that was it until 6 pm when I took the shrooms. I managed to eat something while I was tripping... only afterwards did I realize I had eaten half a raw potato (I HATE potatos). I thought it was the bread of knowledge when I was tripping. I felt eating it unlocked the secrets of existence... it was really bizarre. This sounds like a great way to have Shrooms!

From personal experience, i'd advise the would be psychonauts to avoid lsd/lsd type drugs if there is any family history of mental illness.

Unless you enjoy being mentally ill.

I'd guess Albert was very strong mentally, some people can handle LSD alot better than other, kudos to them. I wish i could too.

everyone is different, people smoke cigg's all their life and don't get cancer. Though it also depends technically on how often he took it (I don't think that often, if not like twice) and other factors.

Out of the small drugs that appeal to me, there all Psychedelics
LSD, Mescaline, Salvia D, Marijuana. In a way I find them appealing because they help me explore my "deeper" self. While I'm "tripping" My inner monologue is unbiased with thought's that come deep within my head that only seem to appear when I take these "drugs" I believe they might possibly be "Bad" for me but in the same time they are Helping me to understand things from a different perspective. So in a way they are helping me

For every Action there is a Reaction

I just seem to believe that YES, these drugs could be effecting me in a negative way. But I think they help me coupe with life easer in the long run giving me a sense of where I belong

And I'm not a hippy I just believe there is an equilibrium between both good and bad

I've eaten close to half an ounce of shrooms with absolutely no stomach problems whatsoever.

My method was to pour about 8 ounces of apple juice (strong flavor, compared to the smoother taste of orange juice) into a blender, add dried shrooms, turn it on for like 5 minutes on the highest setting, make sure you pulverize the shrooms into the juice.

Next, I added a liter of apple juice to the blender to dilute everything, I turned it on to get everything infused together, and then slugged the whole thing down. I didn't even taste the shrooms, it just tasted like straight apple juice. For a minute I forget I had taken anything because I was really high, but then the carpet started breathing, and I remembered I had just taken shrooms. It was weird forgetting such an obvious and blatant act... but it was just the shrooms and weed fucking with my head together.

I believe this method hit faster than if you had just ate the shrooms normally, because it was pulverized into a sludge, and then diluted into more apple juice to make a normal drink... kind of like coca-cola syrup into carbonated water. I also did this on a very empty stomach, I had eaten a good lunch the day before and that was it until 6 pm when I took the shrooms. I managed to eat something while I was tripping... only afterwards did I realize I had eaten half a raw potato (I HATE potatos). I thought it was the bread of knowledge when I was tripping. I felt eating it unlocked the secrets of existence... it was really bizarre.


The bread of knowledge.. I loled

alt account? if not i like this new arrival...

alt account? if not i like this new arrival...

Well I lost my old account "RaBiDWolf" I was a bit of a lurker before anyway, but I am back with TOTSE 4 good now :D