IDEs for Linux.

I would of posted this in the "hello world" section but since it has more to do with Linux, I'm putting it here.

So i have done a little bit of scripting in the past (nothing too serious)..but i feel like i want to start taking it a lot more serious and getting into it a lot more.

I've decided to dedicate some serious time in learning a programming language and becoming very fluent and skilled with it.There is nothing specific i would like to develop, but I'm sure once i dive right in, ill have many ideas. I have done countless hours of research of "which language is the best" to learn, and i do realize there is no real answer, as certain languages are good at certain things.

Am i still in process of choosing and kinda leaning more towards c++. But this thread is not about that. What this thread is about is IDEs for Linux.

I have tried anjuta and it's rather shitty, then i tried eclipse and that is seriously a pile of shit. Then i came across an IDE called Geany, and have to say it looks pretty good so far. It's very lightweight, has many features and great support

In your opinion, I'm wondering what IDE do you prefer?. (if you use one)

I use netbeans for java.
For shell scripts and C++, jedit with a similar-to emacs macros.
Any emacs clone that is not emacs if Xorg is not installed.

Stay away from IDEs and utilities like cmake until you are done learning C/C++, they can get very very addicting, particularly when learning a new language.
They also dumb some the things which you should learn, such as Makefiles.
Use a plain text editor and gmake.

Originally Posted by zeusy

Stay away from IDEs and utilities like cmake until you are done learning C/C++, they can get very very addicting, particularly when learning a new language.

Unexpected response. Is that because i will miss out on a lot of vital information/experience?

I have to say tho, i always hear about people using text editors rather than IDEs. I think, why not just use an IDE.

Originally Posted by villageillness

Unexpected response. Is that because i will miss out on a lot of vital information/experience?

I have to say tho, i always hear about people using text editors rather than IDEs. I think, why not just use an IDE.

If your planning programming on a Unix-like system ( such as GNU/Linux ). Then yes some of the things that is better to learn the hard way will be more *automated*, such as gmake, gdb.
Note that I'm generalising here.

Lots of IDEs are suited only to programmers who knows very well the language, therefore confuse newbies and make your learning process harder.
( such as Eclipse )

Some text editors, offer features very similar to IDEs.

[Prometheum]

Linux is just a kernel. Do you want an IDE for working on Linux, or an IDE that you can use on an operating system working on top of the Linux kernel?

Originally Posted by Prometheum

Linux is just a kernel. Do you want an IDE for working on Linux, or an IDE that you can use on an operating system working on top of the Linux kernel?

Yea an IDE on an OS working on top of Linux, I should've of probably been a little more specific.

[Prometheum]

Originally Posted by villageillness

Yea an IDE on an OS working on top of Linux, I should've of probably been a little more specific.

Well, besides Eclipse, there aren't many great IDE's. There's KDevelop for K users, Anjuta for Gnome users, and Emacs for sane people, but that's about it.

Really, in Gnu, you should just stick to emacs and makefiles. You should learn how to use both anyways.

Originally Posted by Prometheum

Well, besides Eclipse, there aren't many great IDE's. There's KDevelop for K users, Anjuta for Gnome users, and Emacs for sane people, but that's about it.

Really, in Gnu, you should just stick to emacs and makefiles. You should learn how to use both anyways.

Yea i figured that much, after doing a few hours of searching and only receiving very little information on IDEs.

Hey who knows prometheum, maybe one day when i become a bit more skilled we could work on developing an application, or maybe when you come to your good senses and convert to c++. who knows eh?

[Prometheum]

Originally Posted by villageillness

Yea i figured that much, after doing a few hours of searching and only receiving very little information on IDEs.

Hey who knows prometheum, maybe one day when i become a bit more skilled we could work on developing an application, or maybe when you come to your good senses and convert to c++. who knows eh?

I would never do that willingly. Don't hold your breath.

Here are a few good resources, though:

Gnu Make Manual
Gnu Emacs Documentation

i use geany for everything, does that make me weird?