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| Better Living Through Chemistry Discussions of any and all sorts of mind-warping chemicals, pills, booze, mind machines, trippy stuff, current street prices, importing pharmaceuticals, smart drugs, nutrients, herbs, and altered states. Please try to keep your conversations "theoretical" in nature, since this is an open conference. |
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# 1

2008-08-10, 06:15
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MDMA Damage
I just found out my younger cousin did some MDMA. Her mom is freaking out and I want to know what probably happened so I can talk to her. I love her like a sister and would like to know about any long term damage.
She is 105-120 lbs
Her doses were:
1/2 standard pill, tested, taken orally when she was 14
Notes: no effect noticed
1 gel cap of molly, tested, snorted when she was 14 (6 months after first dose)
Notes: burned nasal passage, strong euphoric effects
1/2 standard pill, not tested, taken orally when she was 15 ( 2 months after last dose)
Notes: taken to allow late night cramming for final exam, no effects other than wakefulness
2 standard pills, not tested, taken orally with a vodka shot 3 months after last dose
Notes: was used by former boyfriend in attempted date rape, euphoric and trusting effects
1 triple stacked pill, tested, taken orally 6 months after last dose
Notes: "best 6 hours of my life"
Any info would help
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# 2

2008-08-10, 06:20
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Re: MDMA Damage
shes doing like half a pill most of the time...
for the love of god, your cousin is not a fucking e-tard yet....
if your eating that shit several times a week for weeks on end, yea you might do some brain damage, yea you might get serotonin syndrome.... but she doesn't take nearly enough in a short enough amount of time to really do much of anything....
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# 3

2008-08-10, 06:39
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Re: MDMA Damage
Thanks man. I know I'm probably freaking out a bit but I live in a very anti drug community and my entire family has pretty strict views on any drugs.
She's stopped for about 8 months now, but still we're all pretty freaked out.
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# 4

2008-08-10, 07:17
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Re: MDMA Damage
She probs only has 3 scoops of brain left.
You need to make her wear sun glasses as her eyes are now permanently large and take in to much sun at a time. Her stomach lining has been eaten away by the main ingredient in E's(rat poison) eating a tub of vaseline should help this process, also make sure you talk to her slowly so she can take in what your saying, her brain is now 10x slower.
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# 5

2008-08-10, 07:21
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Re: MDMA Damage
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Originally Posted by rtb91
Thanks man. I know I'm probably freaking out a bit but I live in a very anti drug community and my entire family has pretty strict views on any drugs.
She's stopped for about 8 months now, but still we're all pretty freaked out.
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You are freaking out a bit, and about nothing I might add.
She only displayed moderate use. Wait, she used it for a study session? Haha. Wow.
Anyway, yeah, you've got nothing to worry about. No permanent damage and she had a lot of fun along the way. Maybe you should follow her footsteps and take some yourself so you're not so high strung 
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# 6

2008-08-10, 08:07
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Re: MDMA Damage
I did E, two or three hits of molly a day for about 10 days, felt really dumb afterward then got back to normal...I think. Did my brain heal or did I just forget how smart I was? Please note I seem to have lost the ability to do 3+ step math in my head. I forget the first number once I'm onto the second two. Normal yes/no?
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# 7

2008-08-10, 16:30
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Re: MDMA Damage
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Originally Posted by rtb91
1 triple stacked pill, tested, taken orally 6 months after last dose
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triple stacked, double stacked and quadruple stacked pills don't exist. It's just a cheap marketing trick. Treat this as a single E tab
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# 8

2008-08-10, 18:29
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Re: MDMA Damage
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Originally Posted by Tnemnaitretne
I did E, two or three hits of molly a day for about 10 days, felt really dumb afterward then got back to normal...I think. Did my brain heal or did I just forget how smart I was? Please note I seem to have lost the ability to do 3+ step math in my head. I forget the first number once I'm onto the second two. Normal yes/no?
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seems like you fucked up your working memory... so yea some brain damage might have been done... but the initial dumbness is probably just because you fucked up your brain chemistry and then it went back to what it was before...
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# 9

2008-08-10, 19:25
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Re: MDMA Damage
I think an exorcism is her only hope...
Bring out the holy water and Father Pedo
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# 10

2008-08-10, 20:20
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Re: MDMA Damage
You should take some E with her and have sex.
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#11
 2008-08-10, 22:07
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rtb91 
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Re: MDMA Damage
Where I live triple stacked pills do exist, I have a friend that makes them. basically he just ends up pressing a pill that looks closer to a capsule than a pill
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#12
 2008-08-10, 22:15
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Re: MDMA Damage
is there 3x the mdma? or just 3x the binders? everyone has a friend that presses triplestacks, that doesnt mean they still arnt a marketing trick for sucker.
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#13
 2008-08-10, 22:37
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rtb91 
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Re: MDMA Damage
Good point with the purity issue. It really depends on who makes it.
I listed that it was a triple stacked pill so that I could know the worst case scenario.
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#14
 2008-08-10, 22:48
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Pooter 
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Re: MDMA Damage
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Originally Posted by Dorian
is there 3x the mdma? or just 3x the binders? everyone has a friend that presses triplestacks, that doesnt mean they still arnt a marketing trick for sucker.
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Triple stacked means triple stacked. It's merely a drug phrase that has been so overused that it lost it's meaning.
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#15
 2008-08-11, 00:23
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Re: MDMA Damage
1/2 standard pill, not tested, taken orally when she was 15 ( 2 months after last dose)
Notes: taken to allow late night cramming for final exam, no effects other than wakefulness
Your cousin is abusing amphetamines. That's like what... most of the word "methamphetamine". Does that frighten your hillbilly Christian fundamentalist mind? That little Mary Sue has been dropping speed? CALL THE FUCKING CHURCH BITCH.
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#16
 2008-08-11, 00:27
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niggar hater 
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Re: MDMA Damage
the worse it does is make her jaw tense for the next few days after use
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#17
 2008-08-11, 07:22
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Re: MDMA Damage
I just found out my younger cousin did some MDMA.
k...
Her mom is freaking out
~facepalm~
I love her like a sister and would like to know about any long term damage.
Okay...
1/2 pill, tested
1 gel cap of molly, tested,6 months after
1/2 pill, not tested, 2 months after
2 standard pills, not tested, 3 months after last dose
1 pill, tested, 6 months after last dose
Aside from the bolded, that is the epitome of responsible use.
MDMA is, quite frankly, a shitload less dangerous than most of what her freaking-out-mother cooks as "food," most likely.
Did you know that the pyrolitic byproducts of searing tryptophan-based food drastically raise the rate of bladder cancer?
Did you know that the majority of the oil in the common spice sage is a powerful, somewhat fun, and potentially deadly narcotic whose negative side effects (besides the worst comedown of the drug world) include cancer and birth defects?
Did you know that common fennel has the same effect as the most toxic known (and thus, rare) MDMA adulterant, PMA? That even lightly charring toast will produce the carciongenic solvent benzene, bane of health-conscious chemists everywhere? Etc, etc...
...basically, if she continues being at least as responsible as she's been, she could continue to be an MDMA user for the rest of her entire life and still come out healthier than you. Easily.
Harm arising out of MDMA use is possible, yes. However, it requires a scale of abuse which, frankly, borders on the obscene. Multiday binges, weekly or more than once a week, for years are the usual order of things that create etardedness. Even use every weekend - which is still not reccomended for reasons of prudence - usually only creates a very mild and transient depression after about 2-5 years of doing so, and one which swiftly reverses after a few months' break with no lasting effects.
In short - the degree of MDMA abuse which would cause longer-lasting depression, decrease in working memory, or anxiety disorders are the level of abuse which would cause imminent liver failure or death in alchohol. Your cousin has nothing to worry about at this rate.
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#18
 2008-08-11, 17:12
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Re: MDMA Damage
2 standard pills, not tested, taken orally with a vodka shot 3 months after last dose
Notes: was used by former boyfriend in attempted date rape, euphoric and trusting effects
This is all I have to contribute to this thread...
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#19
 2008-08-11, 17:21
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RabidGeneral 
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Re: MDMA Damage
you should take some e with her and have sex.
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#20
 2008-08-11, 18:25
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Rainbows 
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Re: MDMA Damage
Of all the drugs she could be doing, MDMA's one of the safest, especially at the levels she's using it. Those stories about people dying after taking one pill are bullshit, just as those stories about people becoming schizophrenic after one toke on a joint are bullshit.
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#21
 2008-08-11, 18:40
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Internet-Weed-Dude 
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Re: MDMA Damage
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Originally Posted by rtb91
I just found out my younger cousin did some MDMA. Her mom is freaking out and I want to know what probably happened so I can talk to her. I love her like a sister and would like to know about any long term damage.
She is 105-120 lbs
Her doses were:
1/2 standard pill, tested, taken orally when she was 14
Notes: no effect noticed
1 gel cap of molly, tested, snorted when she was 14 (6 months after first dose)
Notes: burned nasal passage, strong euphoric effects
1/2 standard pill, not tested, taken orally when she was 15 ( 2 months after last dose)
Notes: taken to allow late night cramming for final exam, no effects other than wakefulness
2 standard pills, not tested, taken orally with a vodka shot 3 months after last dose
Notes: was used by former boyfriend in attempted date rape, euphoric and trusting effects
1 triple stacked pill, tested, taken orally 6 months after last dose
Notes: "best 6 hours of my life"
Any info would help
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shes fine. thanks for wasting everyones time on your irrational worries.
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#22
 2008-08-11, 19:06
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Re: MDMA Damage
2 standard pills, not tested, taken orally with a vodka shot 3 months after last dose
Notes: was used by former boyfriend in attempted date rape, euphoric and trusting effects
...boyfriend and date rape? What the fuck?
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#23
 2008-08-12, 21:27
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rtb91 
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Re: MDMA Damage
She was dating the guy for like 2 weeks and he's a very fucked up person (he was 17-19 at the time and for some reason was obsessed with fucking preteens). Actually ended up in jail for doing the same thing to some 12 year old with some GHB.
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#24
 2008-08-12, 21:37
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Re: MDMA Damage
he was 17-19 at the time and for some reason was obsessed with fucking preteens
...you say this like it's a bad thing... por qois?
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#25
 2008-08-12, 22:29
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Re: MDMA Damage
shell be fine. To have long term damage from E, you have to try really hard.
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#26
 2008-08-12, 22:32
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Re: MDMA Damage
yay for MDMA!
of all the drugs I've tried,
I think it's the epitome of the word "fun"
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#27
 2008-08-13, 01:11
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Internet-Weed-Dude 
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Re: MDMA Damage
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Originally Posted by droppinds
shell be fine. To have long term damage from E, you have to try really hard.
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nothing pisses me off more than when people don't know what they're talking about. i notice it in every day life so often.
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#28
 2008-08-13, 03:33
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cr0w 
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Re: MDMA Damage
nothing pisses me off more than when people don't know what they're talking about. I notice it in every day life so often.
Like every time you look in the mirror, am I right?
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#29
 2008-08-13, 07:58
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Captain Cannabis 
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Re: MDMA Damage
Shes fine she and your dumb although she probably never took any MDMA anyway. I'm assuming that since she used it to study that it wasn't MDMA because that absolutely retarded. She most likely had meth bombs that she thought were MDMA.
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#30
 2008-08-15, 02:20
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rtb91 
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Re: MDMA Damage
she tested them for meth
I have no clue what led her to do it to study though 
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#31
 2008-08-15, 02:25
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Internet-Weed-Dude 
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Re: MDMA Damage
k...
~facepalm~
Okay...
Aside from the bolded, that is the epitome of responsible use.
MDMA is, quite frankly, a shitload less dangerous than most of what her freaking-out-mother cooks as "food," most likely.
Did you know that the pyrolitic byproducts of searing tryptophan-based food drastically raise the rate of bladder cancer?
Did you know that the majority of the oil in the common spice sage is a powerful, somewhat fun, and potentially deadly narcotic whose negative side effects (besides the worst comedown of the drug world) include cancer and birth defects?
Did you know that common fennel has the same effect as the most toxic known (and thus, rare) MDMA adulterant, PMA? That even lightly charring toast will produce the carciongenic solvent benzene, bane of health-conscious chemists everywhere? Etc, etc...
...basically, if she continues being at least as responsible as she's been, she could continue to be an MDMA user for the rest of her entire life and still come out healthier than you. Easily.
Harm arising out of MDMA use is possible, yes. However, it requires a scale of abuse which, frankly, borders on the obscene. Multiday binges, weekly or more than once a week, for years are the usual order of things that create etardedness. Even use every weekend - which is still not reccomended for reasons of prudence - usually only creates a very mild and transient depression after about 2-5 years of doing so, and one which swiftly reverses after a few months' break with no lasting effects.
In short - the degree of MDMA abuse which would cause longer-lasting depression, decrease in working memory, or anxiety disorders are the level of abuse which would cause imminent liver failure or death in alchohol. Your cousin has nothing to worry about at this rate.
moron.
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#32
 2008-08-15, 05:29
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Re: MDMA Damage
seriously? over 3 pages and nobody said it?
fucking acolyte
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#33
 2008-08-15, 16:55
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Rainbows 
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Re: MDMA Damage
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Originally Posted by scyre
seriously? over 3 pages and nobody said it?
fucking acolyte
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Maybe everyone else was contributing useful information to the thread instead of spouting old catchphrases like a brain-dead fuckwit.
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