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| Better Living Through Chemistry Discussions of any and all sorts of mind-warping chemicals, pills, booze, mind machines, trippy stuff, current street prices, importing pharmaceuticals, smart drugs, nutrients, herbs, and altered states. Please try to keep your conversations "theoretical" in nature, since this is an open conference. |
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# 1

2008-08-10, 02:44
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datura.... wanna help me out here?
sooo. i am on a regimen of LSD, and i have used ether, mescaline, peyote, salvia, various mushrooms, cannabis, nitrous, ayahuasca, mandrake, dxm, nutmeg, cocaine, heroin, amyls, and a few others in various extents.
i would like to try datura/jimson weed. how would i go about getting my hands on some, and then how would i go about avoiding a scopalamine overdose? getting the most out of the experience?
as per procedure, i would like to try combining it with a ton of LSD as well.
black people only sell weed, coke, smack, and crack. they call me names when i ask for anything else.
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# 2

2008-08-10, 02:52
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Re: datura.... wanna help me out here?
It grows in a lot of places... You can get it over the internet... It's not illegal...
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# 3

2008-08-10, 02:53
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Re: datura.... wanna help me out here?
Well there are multiple ways to feel the effects. You could order some seeds and plant them or find plants...but for the sake of theory lets say you have leaves, seeds, or flowers of the plant already.
The first most common method would be to take a leaf, yes just one, and make tea out of it...then slowly sip the tea until you feel the effects. This could possibly result in overdose though if you have a low tolerance(everyone's tolerance is completely different and it doesn't just matter on weight)
The other method is to smoke it. Believe it or not this is actually safer because you can judge how strong the effects are since it hits you faster. This would actually be the better route to go. I recommend smoking the leaves.
Another method would be to just eat the seeds. Yes you can do this but it can be dangerous since you don't know exactly how much you are getting.
The last method is a bit unpractical but it is the best method. You could make a salve using the leaves/flowers and spread it to the soles of your feet, armpits, and other places on the skin. Yes it absorbs through the skin which omits other harmful alkaloids that you could get through other method. This was the way the shamans did it back then.
Good luck, and be very cautious with this plant.
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# 4

2008-08-10, 02:56
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Re: datura.... wanna help me out here?
Don't waste acid on a datura trip. use them separately.
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# 5

2008-08-10, 03:11
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Re: datura.... wanna help me out here?
You should plug the Datura pods, for maximum effect.
In all seriousness, make sure there is someone(responsible) to keep watch over you. When you do something this stupid.
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# 6

2008-08-10, 03:14
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Re: datura.... wanna help me out here?
Datura+LSD? Do you WANT a bad trip?
Someone who has done that many drugs should have more common sense.
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# 7

2008-08-10, 03:14
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Re: datura.... wanna help me out here?
thank you for the advice, i will probably start with half a leaf.
is there any subjective knowledge or miscellaneous things i should know, otherwise?
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# 8

2008-08-10, 03:15
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Re: datura.... wanna help me out here?
it could be growing in your back yard
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# 9

2008-08-10, 03:17
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Re: datura.... wanna help me out here?
Troll.
Fuck off.
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# 10

2008-08-10, 03:18
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Re: datura.... wanna help me out here?
Quote:
Originally Posted by jenkins
Datura+LSD? Do you WANT a bad trip?
Someone who has done that many drugs should have more common sense.
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on several occasions, i have set up a safe environment, and yes, induced the worst trip i could.
i am not doing this for recreation.
now, what parts of N.A does it grow?
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#11
 2008-08-10, 03:18
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Re: datura.... wanna help me out here?
i would have at least 2 grams of seroquel around.
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#12
 2008-08-10, 03:32
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Re: datura.... wanna help me out here?
on several occasions, i have set up a safe environment, and yes, induced the worst trip i could.
i am not doing this for recreation.
now, what parts of N.A does it grow?
Great way to contradict the whole meaning of psych's..
And dont give me some shit about how you find more about yourself from a bad trip, your fucking up your brain, one day that paranoia wont go away long after the trip, lets see how fucking smart that idea was then.
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#13
 2008-08-10, 03:33
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Re: datura.... wanna help me out here?
Worst possible trip? Take about ten pods, and brew a nice tea out of it, and drink all of it. Once it is all gone, rinse out your mouth well, and take your acid, making sure to chew it up a bit, put it under your tongue and hold it, chew it up a bit, put it back under your tongue repeat etc etc.
Then, at your acid peak, smoke some datura extract mixed with DMT.
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#14
 2008-08-10, 03:35
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Re: datura.... wanna help me out here?
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Originally Posted by stupid noob
Worst possible trip? Take about ten pods, and brew a nice tea out of it, and drink all of it. Once it is all gone, rinse out your mouth well, and take your acid, making sure to chew it up a bit, put it under your tongue and hold it, chew it up a bit, put it back under your tongue repeat etc etc.
Then, at your acid peak, smoke some datura extract mixed with DMT.
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i don't think that he could do much after the 10 pods of seeds, much less smoke some datura + DMT...
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#15
 2008-08-10, 03:41
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Re: datura.... wanna help me out here?
i don't think that he could do much after the 10 pods of seeds, much less smoke some datura + DMT...
No, but he can try.
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#16
 2008-08-10, 03:41
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Aerogone 
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Re: datura.... wanna help me out here?
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Originally Posted by stupid noob
Worst possible trip? Take about ten pods, and brew a nice tea out of it, and drink all of it. Once it is all gone, rinse out your mouth well, and take your acid, making sure to chew it up a bit, put it under your tongue and hold it, chew it up a bit, put it back under your tongue repeat etc etc.
Then, at your acid peak, smoke some datura extract mixed with DMT.
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.... he will end up dead.
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#17
 2008-08-10, 03:44
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Re: datura.... wanna help me out here?
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Originally Posted by stupid noob
Worst possible trip? Take about ten pods, and brew a nice tea out of it, and drink all of it. Once it is all gone, rinse out your mouth well, and take your acid, making sure to chew it up a bit, put it under your tongue and hold it, chew it up a bit, put it back under your tongue repeat etc etc.
Then, at your acid peak, smoke some datura extract mixed with DMT.
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i'm not looking to die...
and jenkin, no. NO.
i can find out where it grows myself. my computer shuts down sometimes when i try opening more tabs, so i don't like leaving totse.
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#18
 2008-08-10, 04:11
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Re: datura.... wanna help me out here?
Pussy.
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#19
 2008-08-10, 04:18
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Re: datura.... wanna help me out here?
Pussy.

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#20
 2008-08-10, 04:22
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Re: datura.... wanna help me out here?
.... he will end up dead.
actually if he could avoid atropine/scopolamine OD, he probly wouldn't die.
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#21
 2008-08-10, 04:35
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Re: datura.... wanna help me out here?
actually if he could avoid atropine/scopolamine OD, he probly wouldn't die.
i think that would be difficult, what with ten pods of active ingredient.
getting high on deadly toxins tickles my vanity so much, especially when they are so similar to beautiful little murderers like belladonna and nightshade. even their names are beautiful. i think i want to die by the hands of something named nightshade... note to self.
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#22
 2008-08-10, 04:39
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Re: datura.... wanna help me out here?
WTF is wrong with you.
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#23
 2008-08-10, 04:53
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Re: datura.... wanna help me out here?
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Originally Posted by droppinds
it could be growing in your back yard
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yep, wander around the woods or just look around, its a very easy plant to identify...
there was some growing in my back yard...
i would start by smoking it, 1 or 2 leaves from the plant i had provided a fairly mild experience, sort of floaty relaxed feeling... far from unpleasant... leaves were ground up and rolled with tobacco. start slow as the alkaloid content will vary from day to day and from one part of the plant to another... the experience with smoking is also much shorter...
SN when you extracted it and smoked it how much did it take to get full blown delirium going? one of these days i might try extracting some...
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#24
 2008-08-10, 04:54
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Re: datura.... wanna help me out here?
yep, wander around the woods or just look around, its a very easy plant to identify...
there was some growing in my back yard...
i would start by smoking it, 1 or 2 leaves from the plant i had provided a fairly mild experience, sort of floaty relaxed feeling... far from unpleasant... leaves were ground up and rolled with tobacco. start slow as the alkaloid content will vary from day to day and from one part of the plant to another... the experience with smoking is also much shorter...
SN when you extracted it and smoked it how much did it take to get full blown delirium going? one of these days i might try extracting some...
It's been years man, I couldn't even recall now.
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#25
 2008-08-10, 05:02
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jamaica0535 
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Re: datura.... wanna help me out here?
It's been years man, I couldn't even recall now.
it seems like it would be a very small amount... can you recall if you used a salt or the freebase scopolamine/atropine?
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#26
 2008-08-10, 05:04
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Re: datura.... wanna help me out here?
Great way to contradict the whole meaning of psych's..
And dont give me some shit about how you find more about yourself from a bad trip, your fucking up your brain, one day that paranoia wont go away long after the trip, lets see how fucking smart that idea was then.
uhhhhhhhhhhhhh,
deleriant much
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#27
 2008-08-10, 08:09
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Re: datura.... wanna help me out here?
dont you live in the subburbs, its everywhere what isolated hell whole do u live in
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#28
 2008-08-10, 20:42
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Re: datura.... wanna help me out here?
WTF is wrong with you.
that basically sums it up right there
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#29
 2008-08-10, 20:55
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I Cum Bud 
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Re: datura.... wanna help me out here?
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Originally Posted by Aerogone
You should plug the Datura pods, for maximum effect.
In all seriousness, make sure there is someone(responsible) to keep watch over you. When you do something this stupid.
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Yes it is a good idea to have someone watching you (a sober somebody). I ended up eating some seeds at a get together where people where drinking, and we wanted to get smokes so we walked to the store. I somehow thought it was a good idea to jump on a car windshield, thinking that there was nothing wrong with this until I saw all my friends running like hell. I wouldn't even recommend tripping on datura, it was like I wasn't tripping but my thoughts where not rational at all.
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#30
 2008-08-10, 23:11
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Achilles Armour 
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Re: datura.... wanna help me out here?
I want to try this as well. Datura I mean, not datura+acid. Anyone know where I can get some in southern cali? I don't think I've seen any around here. Can I just buy it at home depot?
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#31
 2008-08-10, 23:15
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Re: datura.... wanna help me out here?
Are you guys all fucking idiots? The OP is OBVIOUSLY TROLLING. Holy shit, could someone tell me how much of which drugs I'd have to take in order to be as stupid as you lot?
Fuck, you guys are dumb... 
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#32
 2008-08-11, 00:29
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Re: datura.... wanna help me out here?
OP, I'll help you out.
Don't do datura, faggot.
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#33
 2008-08-11, 01:19
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Re: datura.... wanna help me out here?
Tnemnaitretne is a confirmed repeat offender fool. don't worry about what he says, i'm not trolling by asking for advice on a new drug.
and, i WANT to do it. telling me not to without a damned good reason won't do it.
i think i'll simply make some tea with a leaf and see how that goes. only problem, i have never seen it around my area, although i wasn't looking... i'll have to look closer. what does it like? wet areas, dry areas, sunny, shady, where should i start looking?
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#34
 2008-08-11, 01:33
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Re: datura.... wanna help me out here?
Yes it is a good idea to have someone watching you (a sober somebody). I ended up eating some seeds at a get together where people where drinking, and we wanted to get smokes so we walked to the store. I somehow thought it was a good idea to jump on a car windshield, thinking that there was nothing wrong with this until I saw all my friends running like hell. I wouldn't even recommend tripping on datura, it was like I wasn't tripping but my thoughts where not rational at all.
Not only is your post right on... your name is fucking AWESOME!
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#35
 2008-08-11, 06:11
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Re: datura.... wanna help me out here?
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Originally Posted by danzig
Tnemnaitretne is a confirmed repeat offender fool. don't worry about what he says, i'm not trolling by asking for advice on a new drug.
and, i WANT to do it. telling me not to without a damned good reason won't do it.
i think i'll simply make some tea with a leaf and see how that goes. only problem, i have never seen it around my area, although i wasn't looking... i'll have to look closer. what does it like? wet areas, dry areas, sunny, shady, where should i start looking?
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Fuck you're dumb. And like 14 years old too if I remember correctly. 
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#36
 2008-08-12, 03:33
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Re: datura.... wanna help me out here?
the shit grows everywhere where i live.
and i watch people have horrible trips everyday.
stick with the illeagel drugs. theyre more fun.
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#37
 2008-08-12, 23:03
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I Cum Bud 
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Re: datura.... wanna help me out here?
Not only is your post right on... your name is fucking AWESOME!
Hellyeah thanks although I can't take credit for the name:(. It's a Cannabis Corpse song that I was listening to when I registered, not bad for a parody band.
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#38
 2008-08-13, 01:35
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Re: datura.... wanna help me out here?
Datura is fukkin stupid.
You probably won't remember most of it, what you do remember will convince you to never do it again.
SwIm knows of a few (2-3) people who have died after doing it, thats in NZ, so, like, times that by 100 to convert it to USA figures.
Theres a 'Unquenchable thirst' to it, no amount of water will stop you being thirsty.
Thats how one died, walked into the sea drinking seawater, drowned, & ditto.
Another (living) person couldn't walk into KFC or McD's for a year as the tiles would rise up out of the ground & he would fall over, he couldn't remember two full days of it.
He was blind for 2 days, had tunnel vision for 3 days either side of that.
He had to be 'baby sat' for most of it, which was a bitch as they then had to get 2 babysitters, one for his kids, another for him.
The amount of the drug in the plant varys a hell of a lot during the year & so whats a 'livable' dose at one time can be a deadly dose at another time.
SwIm has a theory that Datura affects some people a lot more than others.
Discovered it from the book 'Eat right for your blood type' where they say O blood type people are affected badly by any Scopolamine sorta drug.
SwIms Dad died on the operating table after they gave him some version of it, they knew what had happened & gave antidote, thats what he said.
So don't bother with it.
& didn't you know? Datura is the reason why Marijuana is illegal.
Read the 'Indian Hemp Drugs Commission Report (1894)'
OK its 3,281 pages long & done in 1894, but its in there....
http://www.druglibrary.org/Schaffer/Library/effects.htm
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#39
 2008-08-13, 02:07
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Utah: Mountains, Mormons, Meth
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Re: datura.... wanna help me out here?
Wise words:
"If you enjoyed yourself on datura, you didn't do it right".
Documentary on scopolamine: http://www.vbs.tv/video.php?id=1119242704
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#40
 2008-08-13, 02:12
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Re: datura.... wanna help me out here?
Theres a 'Unquenchable thirst' to it, no amount of water will stop you being thirsty.
you talkin' 'bout marijuana?
drowned, & ditto.
hold up nig, you drowned 2?
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#41
 2008-08-13, 05:41
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eesakiwi 
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Re: datura.... wanna help me out here?
you talkin' 'bout marijuana?
Uh, Nah
hold up nig, you drowned 2?
Whats a nig? No I didn't drown, whats the 2 mean?
I mean, 1 drowned, & ditto, another drowned, different cases.
See heres one, first case.
http://www.nandor.net.nz/political/springeditorial94.php
see> Andrew Chappell
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#42
 2008-08-13, 05:46
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eesakiwi 
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Re: datura.... wanna help me out here?
If that wasn't enough> http://mv.lycaeum.org/mu/datura.html
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