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 #1 
Old 2008-08-07, 16:45
ak-kapocsi ak-kapocsi is offline
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Default Not your typical doage thread (opiate/opiod)

http://members.fortunecity.com/timsmoke2/nurochem/ochart.html

Does this equivalency chart seem reliable and respectable enough to serve as a rough estimate on recreational dosages when experimenting with opiates/opiods?
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Old 2008-08-07, 17:00
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NJ
Default Re: Not your typical doage thread (opiate/opiod)

well there are different bioavailibilites for different routes of administration.
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Old 2008-08-07, 17:09
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what on earth is an opiod?
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Old 2008-08-07, 17:22
spinal_cord spinal_cord is offline
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Default Re: Not your typical doage thread (opiate/opiod)

Depends if you'er going to IM it or not.

it looks a bit faulty to me.
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Old 2008-08-07, 23:40
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Default Re: Not your typical doage thread (opiate/opiod)

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Originally Posted by TrueBudSmoker
what on earth is an opiod?


well, an opiod receptor is the part of your brain that opiates effect.
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Old 2008-08-08, 00:18
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Out there
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what on earth is an opiod?


o-pi-oid

noun-

3. Any of several synthetic compounds, as methadone, having effects similar to natural opium alkaloids and their derivatives.
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Old 2008-08-08, 00:25
bubblinwater bubblinwater is offline
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Default Re: Not your typical doage thread (opiate/opiod)

uhhh i know this is kinda unrelated i guess but i didnt think it was worth posting a new thread for soooooo.....
how many mg's of hydrocodone does it take YOU to get the desired affect? because it takes me sooooo much and i hate it. I know its not the strongest pk, actually far from it, but i gotta work with what i got, know what im sayinnnnn
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Old 2008-08-08, 00:26
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Default Re: Not your typical doage thread (opiate/opiod)

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uhhh i know this is kinda unrelated i guess but i didnt think it was worth posting a new thread for soooooo.....
how many mg's of hydrocodone does it take YOU to get the desired affect? because it takes me sooooo much and i hate it. I know its not the strongest pk, actually far from it, but i gotta work with what i got, know what im sayinnnnn


how much does it normally take you?
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Old 2008-08-08, 00:29
bubblinwater bubblinwater is offline
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Default Re: Not your typical doage thread (opiate/opiod)

well considering i at 7 pills that contained 7.5 mgs each and didnt feel a thing, im thinkin 70 mgs or so should do the job...well thats what im hoping actually
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Old 2008-08-08, 01:00
ignis invictus veritatis ignis invictus veritatis is offline
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Default Re: Not your typical doage thread (opiate/opiod)

^ Jesus, dude. That's rough. I just popped five of the 5/500 hydro/APAP variety and had a nice glow going for about three hours...
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Old 2008-08-08, 01:09
bubblinwater bubblinwater is offline
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Default Re: Not your typical doage thread (opiate/opiod)

damnnn i knew something wasnt right, and i hardly have any tolerance to opiates, bummer.
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Old 2008-08-08, 01:19
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Percocet might treat you better, and you can extract the oxycodone from it. You don't want too much APAP in ya. Short term it won't do much, if anything at all, but long term high dose APAP will take a toll on your liver. If you want something worth taking, look for straight Oxyco(ntin)(done). It's one of the easier ones to find, and is rather euphoric. More so than hydrocodone, anyway.
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Old 2008-08-08, 01:29
bubblinwater bubblinwater is offline
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Default Re: Not your typical doage thread (opiate/opiod)

ahh nothings easy to find in these parts haha, but thanks for the help, is it possible to extract the hydrocodone from the pills?
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Old 2008-08-08, 02:02
helterskelter helterskelter is offline
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Default Re: Not your typical doage thread (opiate/opiod)

Yeah go google it
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Old 2008-08-08, 03:11
ak-kapocsi ak-kapocsi is offline
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what's with the thread hi-jack?
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Old 2008-08-10, 21:15
556 556 is offline
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blah blah blah figure out your tolerance and dosage for yourself. none of those numbers would get me high for a second.
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Old 2008-08-10, 21:23
rideronthestorm rideronthestorm is offline
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I laughed at the 5 - 5/500's comment. Oh the days of youth :) ....wait a second im 24, damn
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Old 2008-08-10, 21:25
hypno hypno is offline
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Default Re: Not your typical doage thread (opiate/opiod)

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Originally Posted by ak-kapocsi
http://members.fortunecity.com/timsmoke2/nurochem/ochart.html

Does this equivalency chart seem reliable and respectable enough to serve as a rough estimate on recreational dosages when experimenting with opiates/opiods?


no that chart is shit. After looking over it they listed 10mg of oxycodone as equal to 10mg of methadone which is around twice as strong
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Old 2008-08-11, 00:37
acexnx316 acexnx316 is offline
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Default Re: Not your typical doage thread (opiate/opiod)

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Originally Posted by TrueBudSmoker
what on earth is an opiod?


Actually...

An opioid is a SYNTHETIC/SEMI-SYNTHETIC OPIATE; for example, SYNTHETIC OPIOID = Methadone, Hydromorphone, Oxymorphone, etc, etc.; SEMI-SYNTHETIC OPIOID = Oxycodone, Hydrocodone, Demerol, etc, etc. something that may have been derived from Thebaine, Codeine and/or Morphine at first, but then synthesized to be stronger and more potent analgesically and euphorically :)

And an OPIATE would be a natural narcotic analgesic pain killer derived naturally from usually Opium (Morphine, Codeine, Thebaine, etc.) ONLY; for example... Codeine, Morphine, Heroin, Opium, etc, etc.

Nothing at all to do with receptors...

The END :)

ONE.
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Old 2008-08-11, 00:57
hypno hypno is offline
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Default Re: Not your typical doage thread (opiate/opiod)

Actually...

An opioid is a SYNTHETIC/SEMI-SYNTHETIC OPIATE; for example, SYNTHETIC OPIOID = Methadone, Hydromorphone, Oxymorphone, etc, etc.; SEMI-SYNTHETIC OPIOID = Oxycodone, Hydrocodone, Demerol, etc, etc. something that may have been derived from Thebaine, Codeine and/or Morphine at first, but then synthesized to be stronger and more potent analgesically and euphorically :)

And an OPIATE would be a natural narcotic analgesic pain killer derived naturally from usually Opium (Morphine, Codeine, Thebaine, etc.) ONLY; for example... Codeine, Morphine, Heroin, Opium, etc, etc.

Nothing at all to do with receptors...

The END :)

ONE.

if you didnt google that, then good man. If you googled some of that..you have a good idea about this stuff... if you copy/pasted that, stfu noob
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Old 2008-08-11, 15:43
acexnx316 acexnx316 is offline
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Default Re: Not your typical doage thread (opiate/opiod)

if you didnt google that, then good man. If you googled some of that..you have a good idea about this stuff... if you copy/pasted that, stfu noob

Thanks for the compliment! I appreciate it!

And...

In a nice [don't take it the wrong] way (Unless you had intentions of YOUR above comment being that of one that would come from an asshole).... and if you did your research on me, then you know for a FACT that there was absolutely no googling or "researching" involved. Came straight from the dome as does every other post I have ever typed about any pharmaceutical chemical in my life :)

PS: I may have many less posts than you, but mine are MOSTLY (NOT ALL) of quality and I am devoted to other boards, not just this one. And I am only 25 (Older than most 14 year olds on this board anyway) so I think I'm pretty good off knowledge wise at my age and constantly learning new things each day!

Take care and be safe!

ONE.
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Old 2008-08-11, 16:01
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Default Re: Not your typical doage thread (opiate/opiod)

this chart is bullshit because its IM doseages and theraputic values, not recreational...


you would gain more value from an oral chart, but even then these are all for their intended purpose, not that of how noddy am i going to get, which is what most people are looking for...


easy tidbit from dr. opiate: 20mgs of oxycodone = 35mgs of hydrocodone.
 
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