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Better Living Through Chemistry Discussions of any and all sorts of mind-warping chemicals, pills, booze, mind machines, trippy stuff, current street prices, importing pharmaceuticals, smart drugs, nutrients, herbs, and altered states. Please try to keep your conversations "theoretical" in nature, since this is an open conference.

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Old 2008-08-07, 06:10
Captain Cannabis Captain Cannabis is offline
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Default E Pills-Not MDMA,DXM,or Amps

I was dumb as fuck and took some e pills without testing them. I'm experienced with MDMA, DXM, and amphetamines but I know it wasn't one of those. It was similar to MDMA but more "trippy", less euphoria, no real jaw clenching, no strong visuals, and my eyes where dilated. I realize it could be any concoction of drugs but I was curious if those effects of PMA, MDA, or another research chemical someone may know of.
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Old 2008-08-07, 06:22
Buttocks Buttocks is offline
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Default Re: E Pills-Not MDMA,DXM,or Amps

Probably MDA or a 2c-x research chemical. It's hard to really tell without having tested it.

You descirbing it as similar to MDMA leads me to believe that it's probably MDA or a mixture of chemicals involving it.
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Old 2008-08-07, 06:45
laundrysoap laundrysoap is offline
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Default Re: E Pills-Not MDMA,DXM,or Amps

I vote low dose of 2c-(x) chemical.
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Old 2008-08-07, 07:46
RednaXela RednaXela is offline
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Default Re: E Pills-Not MDMA,DXM,or Amps

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Originally Posted by laundrysoap
I vote low dose of 2c-(x) chemical.


i agree
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Old 2008-08-07, 10:01
FullMetalJacket FullMetalJacket is offline
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Default Re: E Pills-Not MDMA,DXM,or Amps

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Originally Posted by laundrysoap
I vote low dose of 2c-(x) chemical.


thirded.
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Old 2008-08-07, 12:46
AlCaTrAz AlCaTrAz is offline
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Default Re: E Pills-Not MDMA,DXM,or Amps

How long did it last? This is a big determining factor for what it could have been...
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Old 2008-08-07, 12:57
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no experience with 2c's but why would they sell that as e on account of 2c's are worth more than mdma?

my guess is mda.
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Old 2008-08-07, 13:38
Mellow_Fellow Mellow_Fellow is offline
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Default Re: E Pills-Not MDMA,DXM,or Amps

Did you get any kind of comedown?

My vote is BZP/MCPP or another piperazine combo. They're pretty shit, you don't get any rush or "loved up" euphoria off them.

I dunno about the States, but hardly anyone makes low-dose RC pills in Europe, with the exception of 2cb blanks. People generally know what they are though, they're smaller than normal Es.
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Old 2008-08-07, 17:29
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Default Re: E Pills-Not MDMA,DXM,or Amps

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Originally Posted by kwerjack
no experience with 2c's but why would they sell that as e on account of 2c's are worth more than mdma?

my guess is mda.


No they aren't. 2c-e is less than $2 a hit(premarket).
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Old 2008-08-07, 17:41
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key-word -- premarket
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Old 2008-08-07, 18:18
TheSexyBeast821 TheSexyBeast821 is offline
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Default Re: E Pills-Not MDMA,DXM,or Amps

Sounds just like my experiences with MDA have been.
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Old 2008-08-07, 20:19
Captain Cannabis Captain Cannabis is offline
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Default Re: E Pills-Not MDMA,DXM,or Amps

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Originally Posted by Mellow_Fellow
Did you get any kind of comedown?

My vote is BZP/MCPP or another piperazine combo. They're pretty shit, you don't get any rush or "loved up" euphoria off them.

I dunno about the States, but hardly anyone makes low-dose RC pills in Europe, with the exception of 2cb blanks. People generally know what they are though, they're smaller than normal Es.


Yea I had a long comedown, but I forgot to add that I had no empathy.
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Old 2008-08-08, 04:06
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Your medicine cabinet
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That really sounds like MDA to me.
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Old 2008-08-08, 05:36
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Default Re: E Pills-Not MDMA,DXM,or Amps

What are mda's visual effects? My last time I rolled I got these pills and when I looked at people there would be a frame around their face the same color as their skin tone. Also I'd see a red light (like the laser pointers pretty much) in my peripherals. There was also alot of thinking someone was standing next to me when they weren't and some minor sound distortions (thinking I hear people running behind me while I'm walking or hearing people talk while I'm listening to music which then goes away after I turn it off).

Are these effects similar to what mda is?
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Old 2008-08-08, 17:36
Mellow_Fellow Mellow_Fellow is offline
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Default Re: E Pills-Not MDMA,DXM,or Amps

^ That sounds more like MDA. A common hallucination is that everyone is wearing sunglasses.... :D

MDA is visual, and it can you rush, dilates your pupils, can bring some euphoria etc. If the pills had a proper dose of MDA in them, the OP would certainly have got proper effects off of them.

Seriously, I bet it's piperazines. I had a quick look on the American/Canadian pillreports, and there are tons of "unknown" pills being put down as amphetamines. They're probably not though, if you read the experiences people are having, they're way more likely to have BZP/MCPP/whatever else in them.

Headaches, nausea, weird hot n cold feelings, no rush, difficulty in sleeping, CEVs, a crash and then a long drawn out "comedown", as well as just generally not enjoying yourself seems to be the effect of the "bunk" pills being mass produced in Europe right now. Naturally, some of them are gona be sold to Canada/U.S. and they're really quite unpleasant n shit, so be careful guys. They don't react with a test kit, which is one of the fastest ways of determining whether you have a low dose amphetamine bunk, or one of these pipz ones, which are kinda worse...

Best to watch out for these things, people.
 
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