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 #1 
Old 2008-08-06, 23:52
Martin Bryant Martin Bryant is offline
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Default What is worse

Smoking pot regularly, or cigarettes?

Some people I know seem to think smoking cigarettes is much worse. And these people seem to think it's OK to smoke pot occasionally.

What is your opinion on this?
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Old 2008-08-06, 23:54
spinal_cord spinal_cord is offline
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Default Re: What is worse

Cigarettes contain the same ingrediant as suicide pills.

you decide.
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Old 2008-08-07, 00:00
ClearTrain ClearTrain is offline
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Default Re: What is worse

smoking pot has more tar or whatever. but stoners tend to not smoke as much weed, compared to a ciggarette smoker who would smoke alot of ciggarettes. i think that makes sense right?
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Old 2008-08-07, 00:03
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cigs cost more, cause cancer and heart disease, have much more side effects, and are addictive

pot costs less, causes cancer but can also prevent cancer (THC is an anti-cancer agent) and alzheimers, less side effects, but you can lose your motivation.
 #5 
Old 2008-08-07, 00:28
36fuckin5 36fuckin5 is offline
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Default Re: What is worse

cigs cost more

No fucking way. I can get 6 oz of tobacco for $6-15, depending on which brand I buy. You find me 6 oz of pot for even $50 and I'll buy it right now.
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Old 2008-08-07, 00:31
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No fucking way. I can get 6 oz of tobacco for $6-15, depending on which brand I buy. You find me 6 oz of pot for even $50 and I'll buy it right now.

i mean cig smokers pay like 10 bucks a day for the shit they smoke.

i pay on average about 2-3 bucks a day for the weed i smoke
 #7 
Old 2008-08-07, 00:33
spinal_cord spinal_cord is offline
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Default Re: What is worse

No fucking way. I can get 6 oz of tobacco for $6-15, depending on which brand I buy. You find me 6 oz of pot for even $50 and I'll buy it right now.

yerp.

Canada it's like $50 for the can's of tobacco, i think they have 150 grams in them(im not sure i never buy them). packs of cigs go for 7-15 bucks, fail.
 #8 
Old 2008-08-07, 00:34
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Default Re: What is worse

Smoking cigarettes is way, way worse for you.
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Old 2008-08-07, 00:37
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Default Re: What is worse

Quote:
Originally Posted by ClearTrain
smoking pot has more tar or whatever. but stoners tend to not smoke as much weed, compared to a ciggarette smoker who would smoke alot of ciggarettes. i think that makes sense right?


This is what I heard. Plus cigs have nicotine which is addictive.
 #10 
Old 2008-08-07, 00:43
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Default Re: What is worse

idk. there is a TON of propganda around this topic, so it makes it a little hard to distinguish fact from fiction.

most propganda/possibly real studies suggest that a joint of equal size has rougly 5 times the tar as a cig

IMO, pot is much healthier, but yah.
 #11 
Old 2008-08-07, 00:49
laundrysoap laundrysoap is offline
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Default Re: What is worse

A great deal of the tar from cigarettes stays and collects on your lungs.

What do you think is coming up when you hock up a huge, thick loogie after you smoke a bowl?

I'm not saying it's totally harmless, nothing is, but most of the tar from cannabis comes right back up.
 #12 
Old 2008-08-07, 01:00
dummy dummy is offline
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Default Re: What is worse

Quote:
Originally Posted by laundrysoap
A great deal of the tar from cigarettes stays and collects on your lungs.

What do you think is coming up when you hock up a huge, thick loogie after you smoke a bowl?

I'm not saying it's totally harmless, nothing is, but most of the tar from cannabis comes right back up.


please prove it or shut the fuck up with your backwards logic
 #13 
Old 2008-08-07, 01:03
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Default Re: What is worse

one marihuana cigarette is the same as smoking 4 tobacco cigarettes...right?
 #14 
Old 2008-08-07, 01:05
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mah compound
Default Re: What is worse

With vaporizing marijuana, it is by far safer than cigarettes.


Vaporizing totally makes this argument pointless and obvious. Smoking anything is bad.
 #15 
Old 2008-08-07, 01:05
the_goat_master the_goat_master is offline
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Default Re: What is worse

Ciggarettes definatly. Have you ever seen the commercial where the guy cant drink coffee without a cig, well thats cuz alot of cig. smokers do everything with a cigarette. pot all the way
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Old 2008-08-07, 01:07
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^ thats a very good example. cigarettes arent only addictive, theyre fucking habit forming, in a worse way then any other drug because theyre legal and you dont OD on them and theyre easy to use and socially accepted.
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Old 2008-08-07, 01:10
jamaica0535 jamaica0535 is offline
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Default Re: What is worse

cigarettes...

highly addictive, cancerous, and has crap for duration of effects....

weed...

not nearly as addictive, probably not cancerous some studies have proved it to not cause cancer, and last 45 minutes to a few hours depending on tolerance...
 #18 
Old 2008-08-07, 01:12
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Default Re: What is worse

Quote:
Originally Posted by stupid noob
With vaporizing marijuana, it is by far safer than cigarettes.


Vaporizing totally makes this argument pointless and obvious. Smoking anything is bad.


This too, it depends on the way you're smoking it. I'm pretty sure bongs and bubblers that filter the weed through water are healthier as well. Not perfect but better then just straight up smoking it.
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Old 2008-08-07, 01:16
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also, THC has some beneficial effects.

its a neuroprotectant
its an antioxidant
has many medical uses
fights plaque
prevents Alzheimer's
can fight atheroscelosis
alleviates glaucoma
inhibits cancer cell growth.
 #20 
Old 2008-08-07, 01:16
dummy dummy is offline
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Default Re: What is worse

marijuana is actually a propagandistic term coined by the US government to target Mexicans, so stop using it or stop using cannabis
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Old 2008-08-07, 01:21
MongolianThroatCancer MongolianThroatCancer is offline
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Default Re: What is worse

the old story is 1 marijuana cigarette contains 3 times the amount of cancer causing tar as 1 FILTERED cigarette. i actually think this may be true since joints don't have filters so more stuff gets in your lungs. But in the long run cigs are worse. fun fact, did you know when you smoke a pre-rolled cig (came lights and others you buy in stores) you are actually freebasing nicotine? thats why the cig companies add those chemicals and also to improve the taste. also most of the tobacco in a cig is just paper that has this liquid they make out of reconstituted tobacco sprayed on it.

soooo, cigarettes are bad mmkay
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Old 2008-08-07, 03:34
36fuckin5 36fuckin5 is offline
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Default Re: What is worse

i mean cig smokers pay like 10 bucks a day for the shit they smoke.

i pay on average about 2-3 bucks a day for the weed i smoke

I smoke more than average (of cigs and pot) and the pot by far outweighs the tobacco. I might smoke $1-2 worth of tobacco (I smoke rollies) but probably half an eighth minimum ($10-15) of pot per day. Even if I smoked regular cigs, it'd be about 2 packs, so near $6 per day. Still not close.

Before anybody calls bullshit, I live with a roommate who inherited shit-tons of money, and I don't do much besides sit around and smoke. Probably a bad thing, but it's mostly due to not having transportation, which was solved today.

/stoned rambling.
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Old 2008-08-07, 04:01
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Default Re: What is worse

pot costs less


Bull shit I bet you smoke horrible weed. Also evident from how you called it "pot"

no one calls it that except people who smoke dark green shake

But I'd say:

Cigs are very obviously MUCH worse for your health than weed.

But weed can make you lazy and unmotivated if you aren't careful, while cig smokers can lead normal (shortened) lives.

So I don't know!

I smoke both, probably 5$ of weed a day and 2.50$ of cigs (half a 5$ pack)
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Old 2008-08-07, 04:28
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mah compound
Default Re: What is worse

Bull shit I bet you smoke horrible weed. Also evident from how you called it "pot"

no one calls it that except people who smoke dark green shake

But I'd say:

Cigs are very obviously MUCH worse for your health than weed.

But weed can make you lazy and unmotivated if you aren't careful, while cig smokers can lead normal (shortened) lives.

So I don't know!

I smoke both, probably 5$ of weed a day and 2.50$ of cigs (half a 5$ pack)I call it pot. You saying I don't know my weed after 14+ years of smoking it?
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Old 2008-08-07, 04:35
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http://www.knight47.com/weed.html
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Old 2008-08-07, 10:03
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Maricopa Arizona
Default Re: What is worse

no one calls it that except people who smoke dark green shake



That's a ridiculous generalization.

You're an idiot.
 #27 
Old 2008-08-07, 11:01
Banned From Heaven Banned From Heaven is offline
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Default Re: What is worse

I'd say tobacco is worse for you, but who the hell cares? Nothing is healthy, and everything kills you. Stop thinking about what's deadly, and just enjoy it.

My view on the matter anyway, I could very well be wrong.
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Old 2008-08-07, 11:22
Exalter Exalter is offline
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Default Re: What is worse

Just fucking smoke it both and quit bitching.

Unless some unbiased scientific official can come in here and told you (which won't, because they are either anti-weed or anti-tobacco) it will be a bitch to find out.

There's so many, well I heard that.... bullshit that gets spread.

Fuck, I heard eating a banana then drinking Sprite gets you high d000dz
 
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