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 #1 
Old 2008-08-06, 22:26
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Default Dropped 90mg Dihydrocodeine

about an hour ago. So far felt no effects. Zero opiate tolerance and pills were definitely not bunk. Ate about 1hr30 prior to dropping.

Any ideas why? Does DHC have a longer onset than im expecting? I would do some mroe extensive research but my net is going crazy (took me about 10 minutes to post this...)

Cheers
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Old 2008-08-06, 22:32
yalikeit yalikeit is offline
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Default Re: Dropped 90mg Dihydrocodeine

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Originally Posted by Spliffing
about an hour ago. So far felt no effects. Zero opiate tolerance and pills were definitely not bunk. Ate about 1hr30 prior to dropping.

Any ideas why? Does DHC have a longer onset than im expecting? I would do some mroe extensive research but my net is going crazy (took me about 10 minutes to post this...)

Cheers


if u dont combine with weed or alchohol you will need 150mg plus.

on saturday night i was baked and dropped a 90mg dhc and within 40 - 60 mins i was fucked up and felt great. just so good to lie there while the opiates wash through your body
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Old 2008-08-06, 23:07
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Default Re: Dropped 90mg Dihydrocodeine

oh that sucks. Everywhere online that i saw reccommended 60mg as first time dose. What a heap of shit. Only another 90mg left now and doign the rest now (midnight) would be a waste i would imagine.

edit: how long should i expect for onset if i were to do the other 3 now?
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Old 2008-08-06, 23:13
mr elusive mr elusive is offline
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Default Re: Dropped 90mg Dihydrocodeine

Just chill man, for me it could take up to 2 hours for the DHC buzz to hit me. At least 1 1/2 hours...

Did your pills contain any caffeine by any chance? If not and you do just have 90 mg left (and cant buy more, I'm assuming you can) and thats all the DHC you'll have for a while then you might just wanna take it. Save it if you can get more though.

BTW, what kinda opiate experience do you have? People who have done stronger opiates sometimes dont get as much out of DHC as people who've just tried codeine, tramadol, stuff like that. Nothing to do w/tolerance just expectation of a lot more opiate effects than DHC can give. You can nod from it though...

Just wait for a little longer, have some alcohol/weed if you can...
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Old 2008-08-06, 23:14
mr elusive mr elusive is offline
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Default Re: Dropped 90mg Dihydrocodeine

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Originally Posted by Spliffing
oh that sucks. Everywhere online that i saw reccommended 60mg as first time dose. What a heap of shit. Only another 90mg left now and doign the rest now (midnight) would be a waste i would imagine.

edit: how long should i expect for onset if i were to do the other 3 now?


If you popped your other pills it still could take an hour for you to feel it, might just take a half hour though.
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Old 2008-08-06, 23:21
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Default Re: Dropped 90mg Dihydrocodeine

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Originally Posted by mr elusive
Just chill man, for me it could take up to 2 hours for the DHC buzz to hit me. At least 1 1/2 hours...

Did your pills contain any caffeine by any chance? If not and you do just have 90 mg left (and cant buy more, I'm assuming you can) and thats all the DHC you'll have for a while then you might just wanna take it. Save it if you can get more though.

BTW, what kinda opiate experience do you have? People who have done stronger opiates sometimes dont get as much out of DHC as people who've just tried codeine, tramadol, stuff like that. Nothing to do w/tolerance just expectation of a lot more opiate effects than DHC can give. You can nod from it though...

Just wait for a little longer, have some alcohol/weed if you can...


its been 2 hours on the button now, i felt some minor effects for a bit earlier... They are pure 30mg tabs. I could probably get a couple more but none after that. I have no intention of aquiring a habit, so i may just take the last 3 now....sadly i have no weed and barely any alchohol. If i were to drin ksay, a 5th of a bottle of red wine now, would that potentiate it? How much would you normally drink as a potentiator?

And as i said before - i have never done opiates before at all.
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Old 2008-08-06, 23:24
yalikeit yalikeit is offline
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Default Re: Dropped 90mg Dihydrocodeine

its been 2 hours on the button now, i felt some minor effects for a bit earlier... They are pure 30mg tabs. I could probably get a couple more but none after that. I have no intention of aquiring a habit, so i may just take the last 3 now....sadly i have no weed and barely any alchohol. If i were to drin ksay, a 5th of a bottle of red wine now, would that potentiate it? How much would you normally drink as a potentiator?

And as i said before - i have never done opiates before at all.

now, take the other 90 and down that wine, u should be good in 45 mins.
unless of course your an alien.
or have a natural tolerance
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Old 2008-08-06, 23:26
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Default Re: Dropped 90mg Dihydrocodeine

Haha, i took the last 3. Going to go drink about half the wine now. I'm starting to think i may have a natural tolerance, Though it may be because i did Ket a while ago and am expecting it to compare...
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Old 2008-08-06, 23:27
mr elusive mr elusive is offline
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Default Re: Dropped 90mg Dihydrocodeine

now, take the other 90 and down that wine, u should be good in 45 mins.
unless of course your an alien.
or have a natural tolerance

Yeah just do this man, it sucks but if you dont feel much at all after 2+ hrs post-dose then you might as well just pop the other three and drink a bit. Better luck next time:(
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Old 2008-08-06, 23:32
yalikeit yalikeit is offline
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Default Re: Dropped 90mg Dihydrocodeine

its not really like ket, its less intense and less likely to scare you, but u can fall into a kinda hole as with ket, i find weed makes this a lot more likely.

im guessing your from england like every other dhc poster

is dhc not perscribed in the states?
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Old 2008-08-06, 23:33
mr elusive mr elusive is offline
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Default Re: Dropped 90mg Dihydrocodeine

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Originally Posted by Spliffing
Haha, i took the last 3. Going to go drink about half the wine now. I'm starting to think i may have a natural tolerance, Though it may be because i did Ket a while ago and am expecting it to compare...


Yeah you might have a natural tolerance, and you might as well drink all the wine you have, it might help the DHC kick in sooner (opiate dissolves in the alcohol, then absorbs faster in your stomach lining).

Those weren't extended release pills by any chance were they? I know a lot of places have 60 mg DHC extended release but I dunno about 30..
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Old 2008-08-06, 23:35
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Default Re: Dropped 90mg Dihydrocodeine

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Originally Posted by yalikeit
its not really like ket, its less intense and less likely to scare you, but u can fall into a kinda hole as with ket, i find weed makes this a lot more likely.

im guessing your from england like every other dhc poster

is dhc not perscribed in the states?


It is but rarely, usually for headaches/migraines under the brand name Synalgos DC, but its only 15 mg per pill (capsules actually) and it sucks b/c it has caffeine and aspirin, so you have to take a higher dose and wait for the caffeine to kinda start wearing off before you feel the DHC a good amount. The pills are brand name too, so you have to pay more for them than if you got some Vicodin or Percocet (which would be much better anyway to get).
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Old 2008-08-07, 00:24
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Default Re: Dropped 90mg Dihydrocodeine

Well i dropped the last 3 and then drank a glass of wine. Feel mildly high but nothing really intense (Less intense than say, being stoned.) Gonna go drink some more wine and watch another few episodes of Spaced i guess. If i get any more i'll save em for when im real high. haha.
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Old 2008-08-07, 01:04
spinal_cord spinal_cord is offline
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Default Re: Dropped 90mg Dihydrocodeine

Best advice yet: Go lie down and close your eyes.

Or you won't feel it.

Once you start too feel it don't get up and move or you'll fuck the buzz up.


I have much experience with Codeine and Dihydrocodeine.

/thread.
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Old 2008-08-07, 01:20
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Default Re: Dropped 90mg Dihydrocodeine

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Originally Posted by spinal_cord
Best advice yet: Go lie down and close your eyes.

Or you won't feel it.

Once you start too feel it don't get up and move or you'll fuck the buzz up.


I have much experience with Codeine and Dihydrocodeine.

/thread.



Oh shit. That is good.

+2hrs on dropping the last 3. My pupils are tiny, i feel pretty "drunk" not particularly euphoric but i think my natural balance is alot closer to euphoria than the average... But yeah. Closing your eyes and lying back really makes it nice. I think ima go do that for while. Cheers Spinal!
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Old 2008-08-07, 14:37
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Default Re: Dropped 90mg Dihydrocodeine

So im back to baseline, That was quite fun. I cant say i see what all the fuss about opiates is about though. Maybe i just didnt get high enough :p
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Old 2008-08-07, 15:00
yalikeit yalikeit is offline
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Default Re: Dropped 90mg Dihydrocodeine

excellent advice there about the lying down, should have said that myself.
and definitely smoke some weed next time and the 90 should be enough.

or try 150+ with weed and you will know why people like opiates
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Old 2008-08-07, 16:20
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Default Re: Dropped 90mg Dihydrocodeine

Hahaha. how long should i wait after just dropping once, before my tolerance should be completely back to normal? I am aware tolerance builds very quickly...
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Old 2008-08-07, 16:23
spinal_cord spinal_cord is offline
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Default Re: Dropped 90mg Dihydrocodeine

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Originally Posted by Spliffing
Hahaha. how long should i wait after just dropping once, before my tolerance should be completely back to normal? I am aware tolerance builds very quickly...


it takes at least a week of daily use for any significant degree of tolerance to develop.

youre good to go again, but yeah this time take a little more... maybe 150-200mg, smoke some weed or do a few shots of alcohol, kratom also works well for potentiation. Lie down with some mellow music playing and enjoy 4 hour bliss.
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Old 2008-08-07, 18:20
Mellow_Fellow Mellow_Fellow is offline
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Default Re: Dropped 90mg Dihydrocodeine

Sometimes codeine doesn't hit people that hard, the first time they try it... other opiates too, it can take a while to "adjust" to the effects.

If you have zero opiate tollerance, and you're taking genuine DHC pills which aren't some crappy Indian ones which could potentially be low potency... I wouldn't try 200mg. Try maybe 100mg in a few days, and wait n see if it hits. You can always use grapefruit juice to potentiate it, but probably best to leave that out until you're sure what kinda dose feels good. I know for me, I get mild euphoria and I feel great chilling out off about 80mg of DHC, or 200ish-mg of codeine phosphate.

Necking loads of booze or smoking loads of weed probably isn't the best idea, until you're sure of how strong it is. I dunno, you could just have a naturally high opiate tollerance, but even still drinking lots and then taking high doses of DHC probably isn't the best idea. Codeine's subtle anyway; all warm n fuzzy, and alcohol can drown the effects out.
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Old 2008-08-07, 18:23
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Default Re: Dropped 90mg Dihydrocodeine

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Originally Posted by Spliffing
oh that sucks. Everywhere online that i saw reccommended 60mg as first time dose. What a heap of shit. Only another 90mg left now and doign the rest now (midnight) would be a waste i would imagine.

edit: how long should i expect for onset if i were to do the other 3 now?


What a waste. The only time I did codeine I took 400mg and felt great.
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Old 2008-08-07, 19:32
mr elusive mr elusive is offline
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Default Re: Dropped 90mg Dihydrocodeine

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Originally Posted by Spliffing
So im back to baseline, That was quite fun. I cant say i see what all the fuss about opiates is about though. Maybe i just didnt get high enough :p


How big are those pills? If they're small enough you could maybe try snorting them, that'll make em hit you faster/harder and it'll take less, and you can redose within 15-20 minute intervals.
 
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