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Better Living Through Chemistry Discussions of any and all sorts of mind-warping chemicals, pills, booze, mind machines, trippy stuff, current street prices, importing pharmaceuticals, smart drugs, nutrients, herbs, and altered states. Please try to keep your conversations "theoretical" in nature, since this is an open conference.

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 #1 
Old 2008-08-05, 19:11
Aerogone Aerogone is offline
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Default Medical Bullshit: Sativex! (

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sativex

Sativex is distinct from all other pharmaceutically produced cannabinoids currently available because it is derived from botanical material, rather than a solely synthetic process.

Its principal active cannabinoid components are the cannabinoids: tetrahydrocannabinol (THC) and cannabidiol (CBD).

Sativex is the world's first artificial pharmaceutical prescription medicine derived from the cannabis plant.

In clinical trials, Sativex has generally been well tolerated. Sativex is to be released for clinical trials in the U.S. in early 2008.

Trials are already beginning in the USA, and there are prospects that soon such a prescription will be available.
How the fuck does the pharmaceutical industry get to fucking do this? In a country who refuses to distinguish between medical and industrial hemp.

Federal Schedule 1 substances!

What they mean is: you can buy our hundred something dollar tincture, and it is all fine and dandy. Its not even a synthetic.... it is actually a fucking tincture of the marijuana plant....

But if you grow it your own..... then you should rot in JAIL!Mad
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Old 2008-08-05, 19:26
absolutecaliber absolutecaliber is offline
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Default Re: Medical Bullshit: Sativex! (

Grown your own opium, harvest, get addicted: 10-20years

Go to doctor with $$$, then go to pharmacy with $$$$$, get addicted $$$$$$$: the cost of an OxyContin script

I see the federal government hasn't strayed from their original policy, why should they now?
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Old 2008-08-05, 19:28
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i guess youve never heard of marinol?
 #4 
Old 2008-08-05, 19:34
Aerogone Aerogone is offline
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Default Re: Medical Bullshit: Sativex! (

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Originally Posted by kwerjack
i guess youve never heard of marinol?


Ahmm.... Re-read my first post.

The point is that they are not simply producing chemicals which bind to the CB1/CB2 receptors.....(like in marinol)

They are actually using the Plant.
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Old 2008-08-05, 21:40
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what im saying is its still schedule 1 substances.
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Old 2008-08-05, 22:18
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Default Re: Medical Bullshit: Sativex! (

I dont think you guys get it yet.... Money money money.
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Old 2008-08-05, 22:19
absolutecaliber absolutecaliber is offline
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Default Re: Medical Bullshit: Sativex! (

Quote:
Originally Posted by 4real
I dont think you guys get it yet.... Money money money.


I get it. Read my post acolyte.
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Old 2008-08-05, 22:29
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God damnit! I have been registered on this site longer than you have you useless fuck.

Also what conditions, besides an appetite stimulant, would warrant one getting a script to this shit?
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Old 2008-08-05, 22:46
absolutecaliber absolutecaliber is offline
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Default Re: Medical Bullshit: Sativex! (

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Originally Posted by 4real
God damnit! I have been registered on this site longer than you have you useless fuck.

Also what conditions, besides an appetite stimulant, would warrant one getting a script to this shit?


Really? Under what username, you even more useless piece of shit? Mad

You don't have nothing on me shitbag. Shut your fucking mouth you cockmongering niggercaking piece of mexican spic.

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It's being prescribed primarily to cancer patients/ terminally ill. :)
 #10 
Old 2008-08-05, 22:52
Aerogone Aerogone is offline
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Default Re: Medical Bullshit: Sativex! (

Whats going on here!
Confused
Quite down, now.
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Old 2008-08-05, 22:58
4real 4real is offline
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Really? Under what username, you even more useless piece of shit? Mad

You don't have nothing on me shitbag. Shut your fucking mouth you cockmongering niggercaking piece of mexican spic.

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It's being prescribed primarily to cancer patients/ terminally ill. :)

I dont have to prove shit to you, your insults make you sound retarded enough, and its prescribed to cancer patients/terminally ill as an appetite stimulant because of the pain meds, so you didnt answer my question.
 #12 
Old 2008-08-05, 23:11
949884573 949884573 is offline
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It's not a bad thing. The more it's accepted as a medicine, the more power the cannabis culture has in their argument for legalization. Plus, "GW has developed a strain with a cannabinoid content of 85% THCV and 15% THC. "

Now if that's not cool... Then I don't know what cool is. These companies will do all the work in creating super strains. The work the underground people can't do. If the public were ever to obtain seeds of a strain like that, it would be so amazing.
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Old 2008-08-05, 23:37
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Originally Posted by 949884573
It's not a bad thing. The more it's accepted as a medicine, the more power the cannabis culture has in their argument for legalization. Plus, "GW has developed a strain with a cannabinoid content of 85% THCV and 15% THC. "

Now if that's not cool... Then I don't know what cool is. These companies will do all the work in creating super strains. The work the underground people can't do. If the public were ever to obtain seeds of a strain like that, it would be so amazing.


This is pretty cool. No doubt about it that the plant itself will always be on the streets no matter what "tincture" will be out there.Cool find OP.
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Old 2008-08-06, 04:17
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its a delivery system. pots not legal medicine federally as is because smoking is required...


so ala, remove the smoke, need to cook/buy materials and bam! this allows doctors to perscribe without them worrying about their patients getting busted trying to get their meds, ya dig? sure its a big money making scam, but give the company credit, its jumping through a million fucking hoops..
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Old 2008-08-06, 04:38
absolutecaliber absolutecaliber is offline
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Default Re: Medical Bullshit: Sativex! (

I dont have to prove shit to you, your insults make you sound retarded enough, and its prescribed to cancer patients/terminally ill as an appetite stimulant because of the pain meds, so you didnt answer my question.

Quit being a bitch, I was just giving you a hard time for being an acolyte in my home forum. :)

You've proven yourself though, young Padawan.

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Old 2008-08-06, 05:00
Pooter Pooter is offline
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But if sativex becomes marketed, weed gets bumped up to at least schedule 2. And if they don't reschedule themselves, someone would just have to sue the US and things would be settled legally at the supreme court. We all know that they will roll over for big pharmaceutical business.
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Old 2008-08-06, 08:45
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You don't have nothing on me shitbag. Shut your fucking mouth you cockmongering niggercaking piece of mexican spic.:)

'You forgot UGLY, LAZY and DISRESPECTFUL!"

Sorry I had to do it, I was baked watching the Breakfast Club earlier.
 #18 
Old 2008-08-06, 15:29
AlCaTrAz AlCaTrAz is offline
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What a name.... hahaha
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Old 2008-08-06, 15:50
The Doc The Doc is offline
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Sorry I had to do it, I was baked watching the Breakfast Club earlier.

http://vidriver.com/movies_images/Breakfast_Club_CD3294.jpg

Gay.

1980's Gay.
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Old 2008-08-06, 20:36
steve-o13 steve-o13 is offline
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http://vidriver.com/movies_images/Breakfast_Club_CD3294.jpg

Gay.

1980's Gay.

And that's gay.
 
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