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| Better Living Through Chemistry Discussions of any and all sorts of mind-warping chemicals, pills, booze, mind machines, trippy stuff, current street prices, importing pharmaceuticals, smart drugs, nutrients, herbs, and altered states. Please try to keep your conversations "theoretical" in nature, since this is an open conference. |
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#1
 2008-08-05, 17:34
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Does anyone have any idea of how to
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#2
 2008-08-05, 17:35
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Re: Does anyone have any idea of how to
smoke the weed
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#3
 2008-08-05, 17:40
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Re: Does anyone have any idea of how to
smoke the weed
shut the fuck up and someone give me a real answer, i get pisstested retard
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#4
 2008-08-05, 17:43
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Re: Does anyone have any idea of how to
CBD will show up in a pisstest im pretty sure.
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#5
 2008-08-05, 17:45
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MongolianThroatCancer 
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Re: Does anyone have any idea of how to
smoke stems?
i dunno
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#6
 2008-08-05, 17:46
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Re: Does anyone have any idea of how to
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Originally Posted by kwerjack
CBD will show up in a pisstest im pretty sure.
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no, only the byproducts of THC will show up on the ones i take
besides if i find something that works i dont give a flying fuck if i fail my pisstests, ill jsut explain to my parents what im doing
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#7
 2008-08-05, 17:57
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killedonfriday 
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Re: Does anyone have any idea of how to
your fucking retarded. do you actually think this will work?
why don't you just stop doing drugs if you think your psychotic, it'll help a lot more than trying to self medicate yourself with more mind altering drugs you fucking piece of shit
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#8
 2008-08-05, 18:04
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Re: Does anyone have any idea of how to
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Originally Posted by killedonfriday
your fucking retarded. do you actually think this will work?
why don't you just stop doing drugs if you think your psychotic, it'll help a lot more than trying to self medicate yourself with more mind altering drugs you fucking piece of shit
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I don't use drugs anymore except for the klonopin I am prescribed for my HPPD.
I hear voices. My doctors, psychologist, psychiatrist, neurologist, etc. are at a loss to what it is, since they all agree that I am clearly not schizophrenic.
I am trying to get CBD since its one of the very very very few antispychs without the horrible side effects of the other ones. i dont want to take some kind of crap made in a factory that dicks you over for the rest of your life.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Antipsychotics#Other_options
read up
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#9
 2008-08-05, 19:50
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Re: Does anyone have any idea of how to
smoke stems?
i dunno
your a dumbass?
i dunno
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#10
 2008-08-05, 19:57
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Re: Does anyone have any idea of how to
no, only the byproducts of THC will show up on the ones i take
besides if i find something that works i dont give a flying fuck if i fail my pisstests, ill jsut explain to my parents what im doing
That's not entirely true. Many other cannabinoids will break down into similar substances/same substances.
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#11
 2008-08-06, 03:19
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Arrow2brain 
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Re: Does anyone have any idea of how to
I can only think of two ways, and they probably wont even work.
-Harvest your crop WAY way late, when all of your pistils turn dark as fuck, then smoke.
-Harvest your crop before it flowers, and make bhang using the plant (?).
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#12
 2008-08-06, 03:36
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Re: Does anyone have any idea of how to
Don't you need pretty high amounts for it to be effective? Did i even use the right affect effect? fuck
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#13
 2008-08-06, 03:55
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mr elusive 
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Re: Does anyone have any idea of how to
It would be complicated to only get that cannabidiol without other cannabinoids. How old are you, and do you live alone? This type of chemical filtration will definately require a lot of time, space, and conspicuous materials. I think you are serious about trying this out but I dont know if you have the expertise/experience, and quite frankly it'll be so hard to do it might not be worth the effort, might be better to just fuck over those pisstests (store clean piss, visine, papaya extract, ordering dried urine, getting someone elses...)
You could somehow try to get some Sativex (contains THC+cannabidiol) and maybe that would work better/different than regular weed. Still shows on a test though.
Cannabidiol turns into THC in acidic conditions, so I think you'd fail a pisstest even if you did manage to isolate the cannabidiol.
I recommend you try lab tips for help with something like this, someone might have tried/done the same thing and might be wiling to help you out. All I can state informationwise to help you out is that I think THC and cannabidiol have different melting points. So if you were to do an extract on some weed you would get all the different cannabinoids. Then you'd have to heat your dried extract to exactly the melting point of one of the cannabinoids and try to separate cannabinoids like that.
So uh, go ask this in lab tips.
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#14
 2008-08-06, 05:21
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Inti 
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Re: Does anyone have any idea of how to
I hear voices.
Is that from the diphen? How long have you been hearing them? Are they going away at all?
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#15
 2008-08-06, 06:10
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Aerogone 
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Re: Does anyone have any idea of how to
I can help. But my dear, TetrisHydroCanOfBeanOil, I will be wasting your own time and mine.:)
There is a way.... and i know of a particularly restricted type of marijuana seed.... :)
More so then any variety that can get you high....
The strain
You wont find it in amsterdam
You wont find it on a website
You wont find it in a seed catalog....
Simple decarboxylation of the high concentrations of cannabinoid acids in the plant material, itself will suffice (heating it)
CBME-G5 ;)
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#16
 2008-08-06, 06:22
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Aerogone 
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Re: Does anyone have any idea of how to
Industrial hemp should suffice.
To convert much of the CBDA in the plant matter, to the free cannabinoid CBD.
I quote: http://www.freepatentsonline.com/y2006/0167283.html
* i) heated to a first temperature for a first (relatively short) time period to evaporate off retained water and allow for uniform heating of the plant material; and
* ii) the temperature is increased to a second temperature for a second time period (typically longer than the first time period) until at least 95% conversion of the acid cannabinoids to their neutral form has occurred.
Preferably the first step is conducted at a temperature in the range of from 100° C. to 110° C. for 10-20 min. More preferably the first temperature is about 105° C. and the first time period is about 15 minutes.
Optimum times and temperatures for the second step may vary depending on the nature of the plant material, and more particularly on the cannabinoid which it is intended to isolate from the plant material, and may be easily determined by routine experiment. Suitable conditions may include, for example, a temperature in the range of from 115° C. to 125° C. for a time period in the range of from 45 to 75 minutes (typically 120° C. for 60 minutes), or a temperature in the range of from 135° C. to 145° C., for a time period in the range of from 15 to 45 minutes.
If the plant material is derived from cannabis plants having a high CBD content (defined as >90% CBD as a percentage of total cannabinoid content), the second temperature is preferably in the range of from 115° C. to 125° C., preferably about 120° C. and the second time period is in the range of from 45 to 75 minutes, preferably about 60 minutes. More preferably the second temperature is in the range of from 135° C. to 145° C., preferably 140° C. and the second time period is in the range of from 15 to 45 minutes, preferably about 30 minutes. In another embodiment, most preferred for a mass of plant material greater than 4 kg, the second temperature is in the range of from 140° C. to 150° C., preferably 145° C. and the second time period is in the range of from 55-90 minutes. The exact figures, particularly time, may vary slightly with increased mass. This should be taken into account when scaling up the process to an industrial manufacturing scale.
Where the starting “plant material” is freshly harvested or “wet” plant material it may be subjected to a drying step to remove excess moisture prior to step (i). For convenience, decarboxylation and drying may be combined in a single heating step or in a multi-step heating process, as described above.
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#17
 2008-08-06, 07:04
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Chemical Eudaemonia 
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Re: Does anyone have any idea of how to
maybe you shouldnt have ate all that benadryl, fag
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#18
 2008-08-06, 07:16
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Aces N 8S 
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Re: Does anyone have any idea of how to
If you have a legitimte medical condition that you need to treat, make an appointment with a psychiatrist. If you dont have insurance you can usually find a free social program in your area, or go to a free clinic.
If you've already been to a psychiatrist then what did he say?
But keep in mind that asking a drug forum for medical advice is a really bad idea.
I'm a psychology major in college, so if you want to talk just im me.
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#19
 2008-08-10, 02:06
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Re: Does anyone have any idea of how to
Is that from the diphen? How long have you been hearing them? Are they going away at all?
Yes it is. :( I have been hearing them for maybe the better part of 1 and a half years now. And no even tho I stopped all deliriant use they are actually getting worse. I don't know why since I am not using any drugs but klonopin in low doses for HPPD.
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#20
 2008-08-10, 02:12
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Re: Does anyone have any idea of how to
If you've already been to a psychiatrist then what did he say?
I have been to both a psychiatrist and a psychologist, i used to go regularly but they didn't help me at all so i only go like 1 or 2 times a month.
The only reason i got k-pins for my HPPD was because i presented my own goddamn research to the psychiatrist on HPPD (which of COURSE he had never heard of  )
my psychiatrist was going to give me risperdal and I straight up told him "NO I AM NOT TAKING IT since everything i've read says risperdal and most antipsychs makes hppd worse" and i presented the klonopin idea which ended up working.
As far as the hearing voices, my psychiatrist and psychologist are at a loss to what it is since they both say I'm clearly not schizophrenic since i function normally in society and im not paranoid or having disorganized thoughts (although pre-klonopin i definitely was) so they have no idea what the fuck is wrong with me. my psychologist even suggested "well maybe exercise and keeping your mind busy will help" but of course that didn't make the voices go away... (no shit, sherlock)
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#21
 2008-08-10, 02:15
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Re: Does anyone have any idea of how to
i read in high times that certain strains of weed have more cbc than normal strains, but obviously they aren't widespread since everyone wants that thc
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#22
 2008-08-10, 02:18
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Re: Does anyone have any idea of how to
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Originally Posted by stupidphuck
i read in high times that certain strains of weed have more cbc than normal strains, but obviously they aren't widespread since everyone wants that thc
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yeah, shit weed it where the CBD is at
i guess it's good for me since lots of shit weed is gonna be cheap
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#23
 2008-08-10, 02:20
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Re: Does anyone have any idea of how to
Industrial hemp should suffice.
To convert much of the CBDA in the plant matter, to the free cannabinoid CBD.
I quote: http://www.freepatentsonline.com/y2006/0167283.html
Fuck. that guide is so confusing
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#24
 2008-08-10, 02:23
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Exploration of Space 
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Re: Does anyone have any idea of how to
How about you smoke some weed? Are you really looking on wikipedia for answers to your psychiatric issues? fucking genius! If you're really hearing voices and smoking weed helps, just do it. I've taken an anti psychotic pill (don't remember the name) and that shit was fucking wild! The only thing I remember was running down a sidewalk but I was running with my body like... tilted? I dunno, normally when you stand/run your body is like | that right? Well I was running like \ that, atleast that's how I perceived it.
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#25
 2008-08-10, 02:24
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Re: Does anyone have any idea of how to
How about you smoke some weed? Are you really looking on wikipedia for answers to your psychiatric issues? fucking genius! If you're really hearing voices and smoking weed helps, just do it.
I would. i would toke constantly. but i get piss tested.
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#26
 2008-08-10, 02:26
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Re: Does anyone have any idea of how to
Smoke a male cannabis plant.
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#27
 2008-08-10, 02:35
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Exploration of Space 
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Re: Does anyone have any idea of how to
I would. i would toke constantly. but i get piss tested.
You get piss tested for what? Work? Probation?
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#28
 2008-08-10, 02:39
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Re: Does anyone have any idea of how to
You get piss tested for what? Work? Probation?
for my parents finding my weed and monster of a bong. also when i doing lots of vicodin since they only got the thc/coke/meth tests i got arrested and they found 5 of them on me :( so i get tested for basically everything known to man except psychedelics since those are hard to test for
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#29
 2008-08-10, 02:48
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Exploration of Space 
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Re: Does anyone have any idea of how to
Are your parents the super lame types that think of weed on the same level as heroin and other drugs? If not just smoke and tell them that's all you're doing. If they are that way... I dunno, even if you could extract purely cbd/cbc whatever you're trying to get, I'm pretty sure you'd still fail a drug test. You could always try talking to your parents about why you want to smoke... They should understand, especially if it works
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#30
 2008-08-10, 02:54
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Re: Does anyone have any idea of how to
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Originally Posted by Exploration of Space
Are your parents the super lame types that think of weed on the same level as heroin and other drugs? If not just smoke and tell them that's all you're doing. If they are that way... I dunno, even if you could extract purely cbd/cbc whatever you're trying to get, I'm pretty sure you'd still fail a drug test. You could always try talking to your parents about why you want to smoke... They should understand, especially if it works
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my mom doesnt want me smoking. my dad i don't think cares but he doesn't like when my mom gets mad about shit so he doesn't want me smoking either.
they know i've done opiates, acid, shrooms, diphen  , obviously weed, some other shit i dont remember...
and i've tried telling my mom that it stops the voices but she won't have any of it, she wants to get me on some kind of antipsych or some gay shit like that
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#31
 2008-08-10, 04:03
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Re: Does anyone have any idea of how to
smoke an indica strain
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#32
 2008-08-10, 04:06
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Exploration of Space 
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Re: Does anyone have any idea of how to
smoke an indica strain
to go to sleep? lol
I can relate to the mom not having any of it though. She tried arguing with me about xanax being safer than weed and her argument was "well atleast my medicine is prescribed!" It's hard if not impossible to talk these people into letting you smoke... Umm....... What will happens if you fail piss test for smoke?
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#33
 2008-08-10, 04:17
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Re: Does anyone have any idea of how to
to go to sleep? lol
I can relate to the mom not having any of it though. She tried arguing with me about xanax being safer than weed and her argument was "well atleast my medicine is prescribed!" It's hard if not impossible to talk these people into letting you smoke... Umm....... What will happens if you fail piss test for smoke?
i will get kicked out of the house if i have 1 more positive
thats what they said maybe 6 months ago, anyway, they might me a little more chill about it now but i would still catch plenty of shit for it
funny story, i showed up false positive for PCP the other day and my mom FLIPPED but i swore on a bible that i wasn't doing angel dust (go figure) and re-tested. it showed up negative so my mom calmed down, lol.
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#34
 2008-08-10, 04:24
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Re: Does anyone have any idea of how to
I bet she was just pissed off that you were hanging around niggers.
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#35
 2008-08-10, 04:46
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Exploration of Space 
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Re: Does anyone have any idea of how to
That sucks bro. LOL at the pcp. Do you not have any tight friends that would let you crash on their couch so you can smoke weed?
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#36
 2008-08-10, 05:30
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Menos El Oso 
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Re: Does anyone have any idea of how to
have you tried talking to your parents about smoking weed for medical purposes? that would be the easiest way to get around this. present them the evidence and tell them you need to try this since you can't be hearing voices for the rest of your life.
if not try going to your psychiatrist and showing him all the information about the anti-psychotic properties that the canaboids have. that might be your only other way.
I ain't no organic chemist so i couldn't help you extract that shit. so just play it by ear bro
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#37
 2008-08-10, 20:30
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Re: Does anyone have any idea of how to
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Originally Posted by Menos El Oso
have you tried talking to your parents about smoking weed for medical purposes? that would be the easiest way to get around this. present them the evidence and tell them you need to try this since you can't be hearing voices for the rest of your life.
if not try going to your psychiatrist and showing him all the information about the anti-psychotic properties that the canaboids have. that might be your only other way.
I ain't no organic chemist so i couldn't help you extract that shit. so just play it by ear bro
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I talked to her a fuckload of times about using it medicinally, fuck my dad gets to use it for migraines but NO WAY IN HELL will she let me smoke for hearing goddamn voices. She is more inclined to put me on antipsychotics, and so are my psychiatrist and psychologist.
I've tried explaining but you know people in the medical profession, they pidgeonhole everything and won't hear any of it if someone suggests a different solution. they want to slap a fucking "Hello my name is schizophrenic" sticker on my chest and load me up on antipsychotics but i will kill myself before i let this happen. fuck that.
Thanks for trying to help though man, you seem pretty chill (unlike a lot of people here in BLTC)
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#38
 2008-08-15, 04:06
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Re: Does anyone have any idea of how to
Bump.
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#39
 2008-08-15, 04:07
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Re: Does anyone have any idea of how to
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Originally Posted by Exploration of Space
That sucks bro. LOL at the pcp. Do you not have any tight friends that would let you crash on their couch so you can smoke weed?
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well not yet since most of my friends still lvie with their parents, i mean im still in high school
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#40
 2008-08-15, 05:03
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Re: Does anyone have any idea of how to
Fractional Distillation
nuff
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#41
 2008-08-15, 10:24
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Re: Does anyone have any idea of how to
What's so bad about hearing voices? Maybe the "problem" will fade away when you accept and embrace what's going on with you. In many cultures those who hallucinate are considered gods. And because they accept and even harness these new patterns of thought, it's not a problem. It's just what happens to be going on right now, in this moment. You're not broken, you don't need to do a complicated extraction for CBD, which I personally believe is a dead end. Face your shadow, it'll allow much more growth than constantly chasing CBD for "normalcy" ever will.
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#42
 2008-08-15, 23:58
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Re: Does anyone have any idea of how to
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Originally Posted by Fidens
What's so bad about hearing voices? Maybe the "problem" will fade away when you accept and embrace what's going on with you. In many cultures those who hallucinate are considered gods. And because they accept and even harness these new patterns of thought, it's not a problem. It's just what happens to be going on right now, in this moment. You're not broken, you don't need to do a complicated extraction for CBD, which I personally believe is a dead end. Face your shadow, it'll allow much more growth than constantly chasing CBD for "normalcy" ever will.
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In all honestly, all i can say (with all due respect)
FUCK YOU. I have no desire to hear voices. put yourself in my place. the voices are not useful, often they get annyoing and demeaning, and it frustrates me to no end every day having them reside in my head when i know the solution to stop them is just to SMOKE WEED, THE LEAST DANGEROUS DRUG.
Put yourself in my position and grow the fuck up.
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#43
 2008-08-16, 00:01
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Re: Does anyone have any idea of how to
Fractional Distillation
nuff
thank you for the clue, it may not be a lot but it's a step
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