In my experience I've found people that take uppers are much more edgy in general, and with that comes extreme emotions. Peaks of bliss, fits of anger, feelings of feelings that no one else can describe after being up on a several day coke binge. Meth, MDMA, even you adderall loving highschoolers and caffine/nicotine strung adults.

The people that indulge in downers seem much more down to earth, passive, and normally only show irritation when they feel they are upset. Downers can almost give you a outsiders perspective on yourself, not to mention many times a "better" high for the risks than uppers. As long as your not shooting smack, I feel its easier to carry on a opiate/benzo habit then a coke or meth one.

So BLTC, what the hell are you, and why? Or do you cross the line sometimes with both, or stray into the vast vast unknown of Psychedelics?

fuck uppers

300 mg Wellbutrin SR / 150 mg 5-HTP / 40 mg Adderall IR daily.

I used to be really bad-off into the world of the (nearly) bottomless benzo scripts but there's only so many years you can do that before you attain the desire to possess some kind of basic memory and the ability to feel emotions...

Adderall has done more for my social anxiety than any benzo ever did anyways.

And I feel less irritable on it, too. That is, assuming we're talking therapeutic-ish range, and not 100 mg+ up the nasal cavities.

Uppers seem to effect me more, I need less uppers to get "high than I do downers. I think this is because I'm already down enough sober, benzo's do absolutely nothing to me, except when I pop way too many and forget everything, there is no sedation. As with opiates, there is no sedation just euphoria. I tend to stick too downers now, I don't do stims ever since I tried to cut my best friends neck with a dart while he was sleeping.

The downers are startin' to kick in as we speak :).

i dont seem to like uppers to much just because I hate feeling my heart go ape shit upon my rib cage. Just this thing I have. Downers, it all depends. I tried morphien for the first time last night and it wasnt my favorite. So far I just stick to weed, trying hydrocodon today.

I used to be really bad-off into the world of the (nearly) bottomless benzo scripts but there's only so many years you can do that before you attain the desire to possess some kind of basic memory and the ability to feel emotions...



I guess I havent hit that point yet; downers always FTW. Been a benzo addict for just over 8 years now, don't really get into stims anymore except for the occasional yayo/ e trip. Not into opiates either strangley. Eh, I guess I will forever be a slave to the benzo.

fuck uppers

Fuck drugs.

fuck uppers

took the words right outta my mouth

The answer is simply, yes.

Both. Uppers are especially bitchin though.

downers! and coke, but even though its a stimulant, it is the most downer stimulant, if that makes sense. like it is relaxing and i just sit on my couch fucked up.

amps are only good for focus and studying in my opinion.

hell motha fucking yeah qft. i get knocked on my ass when i do coke.

Fuck drugs.

Bitch, that's a mistake

Downers. Painkillers are the most euphoric thing i know of. Benzos are great for sleep and relaxation.

Amps are only good for when you have to go to work or school after not sleeping all night.

Fuck uppers, theres a comedown and then I cant sleep for many hours.

mike

I guess I havent hit that point yet; downers always FTW. Been a benzo addict for just over 8 years now, don't really get into stims anymore except for the occasional yayo/ e trip. Not into opiates either strangley. Eh, I guess I will forever be a slave to the benzo.

Don't feel compelled to answer, but I was curious as to whether you'd care to tell what kind of dosage you're on after that long. I was about 4 years in and had myself up to 8 mg Clonazepam/daily...not counting what I'd attain out of the doc's sight.

fuck uppers

Agreed.

I'm indifferent.

I'll tell you if i like it, whatever it's classed as...

uppers in the the morning. downers at night. there a time for all drugs.

Bitch, that's a mistake

You better not have no little brother...

Both but downers>uppers.

Don't feel compelled to answer, but I was curious as to whether you'd care to tell what kind of dosage you're on after that long. I was about 4 years in and had myself up to 8 mg Clonazepam/daily...not counting what I'd attain out of the doc's sight.

Not to worry man, I dont have a problem sharing.

As to what my doctor prescribes(each day):

10mg klonopin daily for general anxiety
4mg xanax as needed for panic attacks(I have a panic disorder)
6mg Ativan for insomnia(I also take Seroquel)
40mg Valium at night for insomnia

As for what other benzos, I dab into midazolam frequently and once in a blue moon Ill find some temazepam, thats pretty much it.

With my dosage at what is it is right now, my doctor straight up told me that if I quit cold turkey again I will not live. I'm lucky I survived last time, and I was at half of some of these doses.

^you take all of that everyday? sounds kind of unnecessary to me... don't you think it's a bit much?

Of course its too much, even a blind man could see that.

But Remember, ive been addicted to benzos for over 8 years now, my tolerance is literally unimaginable to you guys who just take benzos for recreation. And if I was to taper off those doses I would go through full blown withdrawals(Besides the fact that my anxiety and insomnia would rebound). Never again man, i'd rather take this here 1911 and just end it. Never again

fuck uppers

QFT but I don't really consider MDMA an upper.

Just depends on the circumstances...

Club/Party - Coke
Concert - Meth
Work - Adderall

Everything else - Vicodin + Ganja

Fuck drugs.

Fuck you.

Plain and simple.

10mg klonopin daily for general anxiety
4mg xanax as needed for panic attacks(I have a panic disorder)
6mg Ativan for insomnia(I also take Seroquel)
40mg Valium at night for insomnia

Wow...I feel like small-fries with the kind of scripts I was getting now...

Seems somewhat odd you're on four different types of benzo though. Have you and your doctor (or you and another doctor if that applies) ever tried Xanax XR? I used to be on 3 mg XR twice daily and it seemed to help a lot with the "general anxiety" symptoms. A lot of people with severe panic disorder find some good results taking a solid Xanax XR dosage BID/12 hrs with 3-4 regular Xanax IR doses available throughout the day for PRN purposes.

I mean, if that combination is effective for you and you don't have any qualms about it, then I certainly wouldn't fuck with it; just throwing in my random $0.02 here as a fellow (ex)benzo patient.

BTW, how is your Klonopin split up? Do you take 2 mg five times a day, or do you take 5 mg twice a day?

totally depends on the person man, I personally love the uppers with all my heart. downers just dont give me the same thrill and satisfaction even though they come without a crash.

WTF no one likes uppers.

I love adderall - just playing guitar for like 8 hours straight smoking weed then drinking like a fish.

Here here.

Fuck you.

Plain and simple.

You want to fuck me?

I lost a large chunk of 2007 to benzos, I'm sure a few people around here have heard about it.
Quit cold turkey, HUGE mistake. Worst time of my life though I pulled through, had a couple smallish seizures among the many, many other horrible withdrawal effects. I quit because I ran out for a few days or so and a friend told me I had to stop during that time, I finally listened, so because of her, and because of someone else who I was falling maddeningly in love with and knew I couldn't feel it true to itself if I was on them, I quit.

I had the girl of my dreams holding me through the worst times in my life and I don't think I could have done it without her. Also quite soon after quitting I dived head first into psychedelics and dissociatives because I was in love with LIFE again, I learned a lot about myself through that and it helped so much with the craving for benzos.

I'm a really lucky guy for things to have played out the way they did, thinking about it make my eyes swell up a bit (Call me a pussy, I don't care).

Please people, benzos ARE fun sometimes when you're fooling around, but they aren't a toy, I recommend never doing them for recreational purposes and using them VERY, VERY, FUCKING sparsely when they are prescribed to you for legitimate reasons. Save them for a bad trip or comedown if you can't handle it. Of course you'll do what you want and I'm not really telling you what to do here, just my suggestions, but keep them in mind.

Addiction isn't something you see coming generally, especially when you"Just Don't Care".

I've only ever done amps once, but I'll have to go with uppers.

To me, nothing beats the pure euphoria. It's like all of the pros of the opiates with none of cons; no nausea, no apathy, and no fucking nausea. Sure, the comedown can be a bitch, but it's easy to prepare yourself for it, and well worth it for the amount of pure happiness beforehand.

I prefer downers generally. That's partially due to the fact the only stims I've ever done were 3/4 psychedelics.

Wow...I feel like small-fries with the kind of scripts I was getting now...

Seems somewhat odd you're on four different types of benzo though. Have you and your doctor (or you and another doctor if that applies) ever tried Xanax XR? I used to be on 3 mg XR twice daily and it seemed to help a lot with the "general anxiety" symptoms. A lot of people with severe panic disorder find some good results taking a solid Xanax XR dosage BID/12 hrs with 3-4 regular Xanax IR doses available throughout the day for PRN purposes.

I mean, if that combination is effective for you and you don't have any qualms about it, then I certainly wouldn't fuck with it; just throwing in my random $0.02 here as a fellow (ex)benzo patient.

BTW, how is your Klonopin split up? Do you take 2 mg five times a day, or do you take 5 mg twice a day?

It's acutually funny you mentioned xanax xr POC, my pschytrist has been pushing that for quite some time, I just never thought to much about it to be honest. And I was originally only on 3 benzos (valium being the exception), except I found out(by mistake) that taking a nice dose of valium before my Ativan dose makes the sedation alot stronger. Those two, along with a big dose of Seroquel can usually put me to sleep, although not at all times. And I take 2mg k-pins 5x a day. Usually 4mg when I wake, another 4 in the middle of the day, and another 2mg later on cause the nightime is always the worse.

If you dont mind POC, I have some questions for you and your benzo experience, along with how you dealt with the withdrawals(my achilles heal). My aim address is in my profile if you don't mind contacting me. Thanks

~dU$tY

Suicide Mouse I couldnt of said it better myself

+1 for you man, its the truth. Benzos arent a joke kids, they can kill you. Just like they almost did me. Just please be careful guys

i hope you get the help you need man. with a lot of fucking work and treatment, maybe you can significantly cut down without having death withdrawals... i've just never heard of someone taking that many on a daily routine.

You better not have no little brother...

Haha I love how everyone's seen that. Unforgivable is beyond funny.

<3

COKE! only because it makes me feel like god himself. took 4 mg xanax two nights ago (first time trying benzos) and i was havin a great time till i blacked out and woke up in my bed with no idea how i got home. i like to be able to remember things so its amps for me.

Gotta love MDMA
Not many things top raving your tits off for hours and hours.
Plus gurning feels nice haha

lol yeah dude... i remember when i was tweaking on 100 mgs. of adderall i tried playing my guitar and i fucking sucked horribly...i was playing so choppy and fast and shit...