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| Better Living Through Chemistry Discussions of any and all sorts of mind-warping chemicals, pills, booze, mind machines, trippy stuff, current street prices, importing pharmaceuticals, smart drugs, nutrients, herbs, and altered states. Please try to keep your conversations "theoretical" in nature, since this is an open conference. |
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#1
 2008-08-04, 15:12
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Mr.Dave 
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Pseudoephedrine to amp
Ok, so I know how to extract dex-amp from aderall and that new vyvanse shit easily, but has anyone here ever made an amp out of pseudoephedrine(not meth though)? If you did, how exactly did you do it?
Oh, and this is for informational purposes only, I don't have a lab or any of that shit so I'm not actually gonna do it.
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#2
 2008-08-04, 19:07
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Pooter 
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Re: Pseudoephedrine to amp
You can't extract d-amp from adderall, and it's even more impossible to do it from vyvanse.
No one is going to tell you because you won't even understand.
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#3
 2008-08-04, 19:19
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Your medicine cabinet
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Re: Pseudoephedrine to amp
You can't extract d-amp from adderall
Are you certain about that? I got all excited for a second...
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#4
 2008-08-04, 19:25
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Re: Pseudoephedrine to amp
http://www.totse.com/community/showthread.php?t=2041279&highlight=vyvanse
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#5
 2008-08-04, 20:02
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Mr.Dave 
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Re: Pseudoephedrine to amp
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Originally Posted by Pooter
You can't extract d-amp from adderall, and it's even more impossible to do it from vyvanse.
No one is going to tell you because you won't even understand.
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Its possible, all you need to do is add a moderately strong acid to it. I know someone is going to say to use a base, but an acid something around 2 on the pH scale works fine.
I think that maybe lisdexamfetamine starts digesting in gastric acids, but once it hits the liver, it takes care of all the rest. I might be wrong, but thats my theory.
Anyways, put the vyvanse in a small cup, like a shot glass or those little cups that come with cough medicine. Pour in the vyvanse, its already in a powdered form, then put just enough of the acid of your choice(vinegar, lemon juice,carbonated beverages) Leave it there for 12 hours, stirring every now and then.
After 12 hours, pour the liquid on a spoon, and hold a lighter underneath it so the liquid evaporates and your left with a salt. Pour vinegar or lemon juice in the spoon, heat it, and let it evaporate. You'll know your done when the salts start to crackle a bit. Scrape the salt out onto a flat surface, wait 5 minutes, and then enjoy.
If any one thinks this is bullshit, then try it yourself.
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#6
 2008-08-04, 21:02
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where the buffalo roam
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Re: Pseudoephedrine to amp
you may be able to extramp d-amp from lisd-amp but i duno about d-amp from amp salts.
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#7
 2008-08-04, 23:04
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4real 
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Re: Pseudoephedrine to amp
Sounds like a big pain in the ass for getting some homework done.
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#8
 2008-08-05, 01:22
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Pooter 
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Re: Pseudoephedrine to amp
Its possible, all you need to do is add a moderately strong acid to it. I know someone is going to say to use a base, but an acid something around 2 on the pH scale works fine.
I think that maybe lisdexamfetamine starts digesting in gastric acids, but once it hits the liver, it takes care of all the rest. I might be wrong, but thats my theory.
Anyways, put the vyvanse in a small cup, like a shot glass or those little cups that come with cough medicine. Pour in the vyvanse, its already in a powdered form, then put just enough of the acid of your choice(vinegar, lemon juice,carbonated beverages) Leave it there for 12 hours, stirring every now and then.
After 12 hours, pour the liquid on a spoon, and hold a lighter underneath it so the liquid evaporates and your left with a salt. Pour vinegar or lemon juice in the spoon, heat it, and let it evaporate. You'll know your done when the salts start to crackle a bit. Scrape the salt out onto a flat surface, wait 5 minutes, and then enjoy.
If any one thinks this is bullshit, then try it yourself.
Ah man, weak. All your shit is all wrong. Everything.
Adderal IS ALREADY AMPHETAMINE SALTS! It is very hard to get free-base amphetamine from adderal.
And Vyvanse isn't just digested using acid. It requires metabolization in the liver. There is no way that you can mimic these reactions like you propose.
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#9
 2008-08-05, 01:30
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jamaica0535 
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Re: Pseudoephedrine to amp
Ah man, weak. All your shit is all wrong. Everything.
Adderal IS ALREADY AMPHETAMINE SALTS! It is very hard to get free-base amphetamine from adderal.
And Vyvanse isn't just digested using acid. It requires metabolization in the liver. There is no way that you can mimic these reactions like you propose.
nah, joepedo came up with how to abuse it...
relfux it in an acid or base...
your Vyvanse dissolves in the stomach, the HCL acid in your stomach cleaves off the amino acid leaving dex-amp which is absorbed through the stomach as normal...
you cant snort it because the lungs arent filled with acid, the blood is acidic if i remember correctly but thats probably not the brightest idea...
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#10
 2008-08-05, 04:14
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Re: Pseudoephedrine to amp
Adderal IS ALREADY AMPHETAMINE SALTS! It is very hard to get free-base amphetamine from adderal.
How about stripping out the binders/fillers and leaving me with just (roughly) 10/20/30 mg of mixed amp?
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#11
 2008-08-05, 04:17
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Pooter 
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Re: Pseudoephedrine to amp
nah, joepedo came up with how to abuse it...
relfux it in an acid or base...
your Vyvanse dissolves in the stomach, the HCL acid in your stomach cleaves off the amino acid leaving dex-amp which is absorbed through the stomach as normal...
you cant snort it because the lungs arent filled with acid, the blood is acidic if i remember correctly but thats probably not the brightest idea...
I didn't say it wasn't possible, I was saying Mr. Dave is wrong as fuck. You can't simply mix vyvanse with a weak acid.
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