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Old 2008-08-02, 19:44
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Default Xanax combinations

This is a two part thread.

First part.

I had a level 5 trip (seriously) from taking about 3.5mg xanax over the course of a few hours, and then taking 4-5 huge bong hits. I'd definitely like to repeat that experience, but I was wondering if anyone has ever heard of death (most likely via respiratory depression) from the combination of these drugs and some meditation.



Second part.

What are the effects of xanax on a lsd trip. I'll be tripping with a good female friend, but she has the tendency to freak out. So, I'll have some xanax on hand. What does would you suggest for a 100 pound female if things do get out of hand?

And what are the effects of xanax on the lsd trip? If she does take some does it effectivly bring it to a halt, or just calm her nerves?
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Old 2008-08-02, 19:53
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Thats retarded if you are going to trip with someone who freaks out all the time then maybe she shouldent be tripping 2 lsd is strong enough that you wont even know the xanax is there it is all in the mind if you can convince her that she is fine everything will be good but either then that a your both fucked once one person starts freaking out every one will start. I would suggest you just trip on your own.
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Old 2008-08-02, 20:02
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Default Re: Xanax combinations

This is a two part thread.

First part.

I had a level 5 trip (seriously) from taking about 3.5mg xanax over the course of a few hours, and then taking 4-5 huge bong hits. I'd definitely like to repeat that experience, but I was wondering if anyone has ever heard of death (most likely via respiratory depression) from the combination of these drugs and some meditation.


I honestly think it takes alot of xanax or it needs to be combined with another type of respiratory depressant like alcohol or some kind of opiate to have life threatening consequences. I remember chiding people when they said they were going to combine benzo's with alcohol and whatnot, unfortunately those fucks didn't die.
However that doesn't mean you won't, so you shouldn't take more than you did last time to be safe.
Also, you mention at the end 'some medication', are you talking about anything besides the xanax and the weed?
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Old 2008-08-02, 21:09
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Default Re: Xanax combinations

Quote:
Originally Posted by Defekt
This is a two part thread.

First part.

I had a level 5 trip (seriously) from taking about 3.5mg xanax over the course of a few hours, and then taking 4-5 huge bong hits. I'd definitely like to repeat that experience, but I was wondering if anyone has ever heard of death (most likely via respiratory depression) from the combination of these drugs and some meditation.



Second part.

What are the effects of xanax on a lsd trip. I'll be tripping with a good female friend, but she has the tendency to freak out. So, I'll have some xanax on hand. What does would you suggest for a 100 pound female if things do get out of hand?

And what are the effects of xanax on the lsd trip? If she does take some does it effectivly bring it to a halt, or just calm her nerves?


The first part of your post - mixing it with marijuana won't make it any more dangerous. any danger is from the xanax itself.
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Old 2008-08-02, 21:11
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Also, you mention at the end 'some medication', are you talking about anything besides the xanax and the weed?

jackass, some "meditation"
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Old 2008-08-02, 21:14
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jackass, some "meditation"

pwned!
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Old 2008-08-02, 23:13
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jackass, some "meditation"

Hahahaha, my bad
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Old 2008-08-02, 23:24
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what do you mean u had a level 5 trip from xanax, wouldnt a level 5 trip be referring to some type of hallucogenic drug??
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Old 2008-08-02, 23:26
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Originally Posted by HippieFlipping
what do you mean u had a level 5 trip from xanax, wouldnt a level 5 trip be referring to some type of hallucogenic drug??


i thought this also.
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Old 2008-08-02, 23:35
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I had a level 5 trip from weed. The xanax was ana fterthought. I had a complete out of body experiance, and was wondering if there was any danger by combing weed and xanax. Ill finish this post up in a bit but i must go.

The xanax didnt potinante the weed im thinking now, my head is just rather silly.
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Old 2008-08-02, 23:38
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normally its the weed potentiating the xanax thats fucking insane if you got a level 5 trip off of weed when it would take a good 14 grams of mushies to get there
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Old 2008-08-02, 23:56
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Give your friend some Xanax and Jim Beam and then trip by yourself once she passes out on the sofa.
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Old 2008-08-03, 02:01
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Okay, I'll give a brief trip report and then rephrase my question.

The entire day I was eating xanax, a few here, a few there (the .25mgs), I probably worked up to a total of around 3.5mg over the course of a good 6 hours.

Later at a friends house I was convinced to smoke weed for the second time, thus meaning no tolerance. The weed was pretty high quality, some of the better stuff that is around here.

I took 3-5 hits off a bong, as did everyone else, and then we were sitting there just talking for a while when it hit. I felt completely disassociated from my body, and was more of an observer in the entire situation. It was difficult to move and talk, not because I couldn't do it physically, I just couldn't make the mental connection. Talking was especially difficult. I was trying to decide why I was having such a different reaction than everyone else. There was another first time smoker who was having the normal experience, euphoric, social, all those nice theres. And here I was way out in left field.

When I would close my eyes there were amazing amounts of closed eye visuals. Little rows of pyramids, as if viewed from the top, forming another pyramid which eventually converged into a tunnel, as the little ones were doing. Basically I was traveling down a tunnel made of other little tunnels.

I layed down on a couch with a blanket over my head and this is the hardest part to explain.

At the end of my tunnel was existence, what the universe is, maybe the afterlife, or a second dimension , who knows.. not me. Its very hard to explain because the sense of physical space was gone completely, everything was composed of knowledge. There were thousands of lines arranged in geometric patterns in glowing blue light, but I didn't see them with my eyes, I simply knew they were there. I could call them forth to look at them, examine them and experience what they had to offer visually, but mostly it was just a knowledge.

This place was so farmiliar. A profound sense of dejavu hit me. I had been there, I had done this, I was completely comfortable in that dreaming world, I had been here forever, and I would return once again, and everyone is okay, was okay, and will always be okay. Everything will simply be.

I was alerted to the fact that I was alive by my heart beat and my breathing. I wasn't sure what the thumping sound was or the wooshing of my breath, only that it didnt belong. I had a choice to make, or so it felt. I felt like I was being born born, agian with that sense of dejavu. I KNOW that I was being born. The faint beating of my heart alerting me that It was time to come forth, the sense of tumbling into my senses, everything.

Durring my tumble (a difficult word to use, yet the only one that fits what I was doing. The sense of space was as impossible to describe to a human, as 3d would be to a stickman) I saw everything. Every persons life, every outcome, yet I didnt SEE it, I knew it. Its impossible to describe it any other way, I just had the vague knowledge of everything that has ever happened. I felt as if I wanted, I could choose to call up and being, and explore that, or I could examine any memory anyone had, or live the current ones with them. By everything, I mean everything. I saw how the dimension of time works, and its as impossible to explain as to give you a location of where I was.

I then woke up and was actually able to work most of my body again (talking and walking and such)



Now, from that long winded experience, I have a few "religious" comments, and a few scientific questions.

1) I feel I was in the place you go after you die. I know that I was there, or at least something very similar, or very close. It was not a negative thing to die, it was just a thing, and being a thing, being in existence, essentially made it a positive thing.

2) I am almost certain I experienced what it is like to be born. The sense of dejavu of the entire thing was so complete, that I KNEW I had been there, it was too familiar. It was as if I knew things I never had the opportunity to learn.

3) I have had a glimpse of how time functions, how distance means nothing, it is all just.. there.

Now on the scientific stuff.

Why the FUCK was it that intense? I smoked the same stuff as everyone else, they had not nearly as strong as a.. trip, it was a trip. I've never heard of someone having that intense of a time with pot. I've done dmt/acid multiple times in pretty high doses and the hallucinations were defiantly as strong as those two drugs.

The only thing I can think of for this is a) the benzos contributed b) I'm more "in tune" with the other planes of life than those around me were


and the last question

I know there is little death from either weed, or benzos by themselves. But, It is pretty common knowledge that when downers are combined the chance of death is increased. I was REALLY gone, completly disconnected from my body, and i wouldnt have even known if I died. I'm wondering is there any actual physical danager from combining small to moderate doses of a benzo with large amounts of weed.

I didnt reread this becuase it took a shitload of time to write, so excuse any broken sentances/grammar mistakes
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Old 2008-08-03, 02:03
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I honestly think it takes alot of xanax or it needs to be combined with another type of respiratory depressant like alcohol or some kind of opiate to have life threatening consequences. I remember chiding people when they said they were going to combine benzo's with alcohol and whatnot, unfortunately those fucks didn't die.
However that doesn't mean you won't, so you shouldn't take more than you did last time to be safe.
Also, you mention at the end 'some medication', are you talking about anything besides the xanax and the weed?

Good reply, and thanks. I ment to type "some meditation" somewhat as a joke, knowing that relaxing probably doenst have much to do anything.
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Old 2008-08-03, 02:03
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edit : doublepost
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Old 2008-08-03, 02:07
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I took 3-5 hits off a bong, as did everyone else, and then we were sitting there just talking for a while when it hit. I felt completely disassociated from my body, and was more of an observer in the entire situation. It was difficult to move and talk, not because I couldn't do it physically, I just couldn't make the mental connection. Talking was especially difficult. I was trying to decide why I was having such a different reaction than everyone else. There was another first time smoker who was having the normal experience, euphoric, social, all those nice theres. And here I was way out in left field.
You make it sound like you smoked pcp. Roll Eyes (Sarcastic)
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Old 2008-08-03, 02:15
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You make it sound like you smoked pcp. Roll Eyes (Sarcastic)

I'm not new to drugs definantly not that experianced but, it wasnt like it was my first time doing anything. I've taken over half a gram of dmt nasally, 2~ grams of dxm, coke a few times, lsd multiple times, was into opiates for a while. So i HAVE been fucked up before.

It wasnt like i was "oh my god my fingers are funny oh my god" If you wouldve read the entire thing I had some very odd things happen that dont useually happen with marijuana, and I felt that an out of body experiance would be worth discussing, but i guess not.

And honestly, If there werent other people who were smoking the same weed I probably wouldve thought it was laced or something.
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Old 2008-08-03, 02:23
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I'm not new to drugs definantly not that experianced but, it wasnt like it was my first time doing anything. I've taken over half a gram of dmt nasally, 2~ grams of dxm, coke a few times, lsd multiple times, was into opiates for a while. So i HAVE been fucked up before.

It wasnt like i was "oh my god my fingers are funny oh my god" If you wouldve read the entire thing I had some very odd things happen that dont useually happen with marijuana, and I felt that an out of body experiance would be worth discussing, but i guess not.

And honestly, If there werent other people who were smoking the same weed I probably wouldve thought it was laced or something.
I wasnt about to read that whole thing, all I was saying is marijuana =/= disassociation. Out of body experiences should not happen on marijuana. Therefore it sounds like you're describing marijuana laced with pcp. I said it sarcastically because it is very unlikely that you actually smoked pcp.
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Old 2008-08-03, 02:36
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Defekt
Okay, I'll give a brief trip report and then rephrase my question.

The entire day I was eating xanax, a few here, a few there (the .25mgs), I probably worked up to a total of around 3.5mg over the course of a good 6 hours.

Later at a friends house I was convinced to smoke weed for the second time, thus meaning no tolerance. The weed was pretty high quality, some of the better stuff that is around here.

I took 3-5 hits off a bong, as did everyone else, and then we were sitting there just talking for a while when it hit. I felt completely disassociated from my body, and was more of an observer in the entire situation. It was difficult to move and talk, not because I couldn't do it physically, I just couldn't make the mental connection. Talking was especially difficult. I was trying to decide why I was having such a different reaction than everyone else. There was another first time smoker who was having the normal experience, euphoric, social, all those nice theres. And here I was way out in left field.

When I would close my eyes there were amazing amounts of closed eye visuals. Little rows of pyramids, as if viewed from the top, forming another pyramid which eventually converged into a tunnel, as the little ones were doing. Basically I was traveling down a tunnel made of other little tunnels.

I layed down on a couch with a blanket over my head and this is the hardest part to explain.

At the end of my tunnel was existence, what the universe is, maybe the afterlife, or a second dimension , who knows.. not me. Its very hard to explain because the sense of physical space was gone completely, everything was composed of knowledge. There were thousands of lines arranged in geometric patterns in glowing blue light, but I didn't see them with my eyes, I simply knew they were there. I could call them forth to look at them, examine them and experience what they had to offer visually, but mostly it was just a knowledge.

This place was so farmiliar. A profound sense of dejavu hit me. I had been there, I had done this, I was completely comfortable in that dreaming world, I had been here forever, and I would return once again, and everyone is okay, was okay, and will always be okay. Everything will simply be.

I was alerted to the fact that I was alive by my heart beat and my breathing. I wasn't sure what the thumping sound was or the wooshing of my breath, only that it didnt belong. I had a choice to make, or so it felt. I felt like I was being born born, agian with that sense of dejavu. I KNOW that I was being born. The faint beating of my heart alerting me that It was time to come forth, the sense of tumbling into my senses, everything.

Durring my tumble (a difficult word to use, yet the only one that fits what I was doing. The sense of space was as impossible to describe to a human, as 3d would be to a stickman) I saw everything. Every persons life, every outcome, yet I didnt SEE it, I knew it. Its impossible to describe it any other way, I just had the vague knowledge of everything that has ever happened. I felt as if I wanted, I could choose to call up and being, and explore that, or I could examine any memory anyone had, or live the current ones with them. By everything, I mean everything. I saw how the dimension of time works, and its as impossible to explain as to give you a location of where I was.

I then woke up and was actually able to work most of my body again (talking and walking and such)



Now, from that long winded experience, I have a few "religious" comments, and a few scientific questions.

1) I feel I was in the place you go after you die. I know that I was there, or at least something very similar, or very close. It was not a negative thing to die, it was just a thing, and being a thing, being in existence, essentially made it a positive thing.

2) I am almost certain I experienced what it is like to be born. The sense of dejavu of the entire thing was so complete, that I KNEW I had been there, it was too familiar. It was as if I knew things I never had the opportunity to learn.

3) I have had a glimpse of how time functions, how distance means nothing, it is all just.. there.

Now on the scientific stuff.

Why the FUCK was it that intense? I smoked the same stuff as everyone else, they had not nearly as strong as a.. trip, it was a trip. I've never heard of someone having that intense of a time with pot. I've done dmt/acid multiple times in pretty high doses and the hallucinations were defiantly as strong as those two drugs.

The only thing I can think of for this is a) the benzos contributed b) I'm more "in tune" with the other planes of life than those around me were


and the last question

I know there is little death from either weed, or benzos by themselves. But, It is pretty common knowledge that when downers are combined the chance of death is increased. I was REALLY gone, completly disconnected from my body, and i wouldnt have even known if I died. I'm wondering is there any actual physical danager from combining small to moderate doses of a benzo with large amounts of weed.

I didnt reread this becuase it took a shitload of time to write, so excuse any broken sentances/grammar mistakes


Damn.. I want some of that weed
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Old 2008-08-03, 03:22
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I wasnt about to read that whole thing, all I was saying is marijuana =/= disassociation. Out of body experiences should not happen on marijuana. Therefore it sounds like you're describing marijuana laced with pcp. I said it sarcastically because it is very unlikely that you actually smoked pcp.

I know, it was pretty confusing, but I'm 100% sure that it wasnt laced with something.

For some reason it just had a powerful ass reaction
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Old 2008-08-03, 06:05
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Good reply, and thanks. I ment to type "some meditation" somewhat as a joke, knowing that relaxing probably doenst have much to do anything.

In retrospect I get your joke, I just completely misread that part of your post. Oh well..
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Old 2008-08-03, 08:05
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Last time I smoked weed with xanax, I kept forgetting to breath O.o . But I was pretty new to weed and xanax so, do what you wanna do man.
 
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