Don't ask me how or why i've come up with this idea, but i wanted to try if it was possible to "merge" methcathinone and methamphetamine together by recrystallizing.

To my surprise the result was absolutely amazing. You might not be able to see it because i have a shitty cam, but it's worth a shot :)


(broke the shard while picking it, its about 3 times that)
http://img159.imageshack.us/img159/910/m1py6.jpg
http://img385.imageshack.us/img385/1839/m2wq5.jpg

Beaker:

http://img159.imageshack.us/img159/4467/m3ii6.jpg
http://img391.imageshack.us/img391/9582/m4cj3.jpg

I still have to ask why.

Where you by any chance tweaking when you decided to do this?

The crystal looks very nice though, from what I can see. Like a shard of glass, pretty big too, which generally means high purity if you grew it. :)

No i wasn't tweaking :D

I just made some for a friend and was left with wayyyy too much after dosing. As strange as it may sound i never took anything stronger than x.Nitrite & weed.

Just wanted to try and mix them to see if it was possible to "merge" both effects (adding the 'speeding' effect of methamph to the duration and 'intenseness' of methcath)


The crystal looks very nice though, from what I can see. Like a shard of glass, pretty big too, which generally means high purity if you grew it. :)

Strangely they appeared (i'm no expert in drugs) glass-grade. Cleaner than both separately. I mean damn, i was able to read clearly thru them :)

:)

Thanks :) That is some nice glass there. What solvents where used for this?

I still have to ask why.

Spare product and too much time. Stupid but whatever... :(

Quick reminder, mixing substances is "generally" not the best idea, but yeah...too much and spare "supplies" make you do things ;)

90:10 Acetone/nitroethane.

90:10 Acetone/nitroethane.

I hope you misspelled that.... A chemical very hard to get for some and your recrystallization together random crap...:( blah! What a waste!

nitroethane.

>:c

45.

Nice shards!!
Was it tested via smoking?? Any discolouring, residue?
Shame to use nitroethane for crystallising, though. Try methanol/acetone or even just dH2O, or iso or vodka even but would recommend keeping to the dual-crystallisations until clean and then singles to make good BIG shards.

Meth itself has a massively long duration with a half-life of 12 hours!

Well i don't take meth so i wouldn't be able to judge really.

I'll have it tested by a friend tonight :D

While evaporating it had a weird gray/pale yellow color, probably some crap left in both substances before i did this but again the off-yellow is typical of methcath, so meh :)

There are big "blocks" on the side of the pyrex but most of the center is composed of 2 to 4 cm shards that look like swords :D All perfectly transparent :)

Very nice :)

Could we have some more pictures? With something to make a size comparison :) That would be awesome, i have never grown crystals from nitroethane:acetone, how long did they take to form?

More than i expected.

I started from what looked like 10g methamph / 8-10g methcath (again, "leftovers" and i'm not THAT much into drugs so don't blame me).

I used 90ml acetone 10ml nitroethane. I know, overkill, but i had never done that so... ;)

I packet it all in a "dot bag" (similar to a zip loc, but stronger). Couldn't take more pics, i don't have access to a high-end camera right now, only the atrociously ugly slash uber-lowres webcam.

The 100ml took about 2 full days to fully go. Wasn't expecting that in the slightest. My guess is that some water formed (condensation)/got absorbed due to the high humidity factor (last week was horribly unbearable: 34°c every day with almost constant raining. Wet and super-hot.) and dramatically reduced evaporation time.

Either that or something went berserk in this mess and somehow slowed the process. :-/

So...how did it go?

Sometimes even crystal clear meth can have crap in it that will make the solvents go yellow (especially from RP/I meth); however, choice of solvents can be of great help in keeping it out of the final crystal. Sitting a flask of acetone and MA (or ma/mcat, I guess) into a cup of boiled water will start the acetone boiling (lift it out if it gets too crazy), add methanol dropwise to the acetone until all the MA has just dissolved (if you want it to crash quickly don't add anymore methanol but if a slow crystallising and finer quality is wanted, add a couple more drops or so) Sometimes, some crap can be seen that won't dissolve after a drop of methanol is added - get rid of this shite, filter whilst hot (pre-wet the filter with tone).

As it cools to room temp tons of purified crystal will appear, if it doesn't put it in the freezer for an hour or two (overnight is best but longer the better). If no crystal forms after an hour or two, then too much methanol has been added = add more MA.

Normally, good crystal can be acquired very quickly this way. May need repeating. Finish off with a single alcohol or dH2O evap to get shards.

Still waiting....

Whoops. Sry, forgot to post :p

I guess it went well, said friend snorted 50mg.

At the beginning he reported an intense rush similar to cocaine but "cooler" (you know, that burning sensation people report).

Effects apparently were similar to a normal dose of meth, tho he reported some weak hallucinations at one point (don't ask me where those came from ). I honestly stopped caring at about H+5h when he started dancing like a whacko. There was no sweating, which is what i'd call a beneficial effect since people on methcat usually sweat like pigs.

He couldn't sleep until H+35 and was totally exhausted, far far more than with a regular dose of meth.

The tomorrow was about as painful as crucifiction, as he reported. Intense headaches, numb muscles, near impossibility to stand up without feeling dizzy.

Guess it's a good combo "while you're in", but the after-effects just seem too horrible.

Thanks for that!

Its sounds quite interesting but the end of it seems to suck quite hard :(

Whoever was interested in this could figure out what chemicals it depletes/screws up and just load up on those before and during the high. It would probably make the high better in addition to stopping the aftereffects.

*Idea copied from JP and others*

^THESE are normally the 'classic' signs of under-reduced, aziridine laced, chemical after effects. Have felt them myself and it is nasty, it's like you've got one of the worst cases of flu ever and overnight. Your whole body aches especially joints and it can last for days.

Good, honest, clean sheeeeet will only require plenty of sleep, food, liquids (and a damn good bath n shave!) to get things back on track. Shouldn't have any residual shit feeling at all.