This is a usually unavoidable habit I developed mainly/primarily from MDMA/Ecstasy (reason for naming both the chemical and the street name is because the street drug Ecstasy does not always and not even often have or have JUST MDMA, though that's the most desirable and highly appreciated result when buying/ingesting E pills obviously, and one which I definitely got quite a bit of the time out of those occasions I've rolled.)

I usually chew on a straw, though at the moment, my target of destruction is a coffee stirrer. It's not necessarily bad, though usually on MDMA, and it's starting to get to that point on this dexmethylphenidate, I'd be chewing literally for hours nonstop, to the point where my jaw would start to get sore, but it would usually be like a GOOD ache, not painful enough to be unenjoyable/pleasurable. However, whenever I light up a Newport, it's hard to keep the coffee stirrer/straw out of my mouth in between puffs/hits... I want to load another bowl or two of my dro, but I don't know how I'll resist chewing, interrupting good burning time and possibly wasting some smoke, and possibly keeping me from properly holding the smoke in as long as I'd like... Any tips on calming down this, what seems to be like a drug-induced oral fixation?

EDIT: Note that I've gotten 2-4 times out of all the times I've rolled (9-12 total, probably somewhere in that range, by the way), what I suspected of being meth bombs, or, as I called them "(mostly) speed pills", and this trait was still prevalent while on this, sometimes more so, sometimes approximately the same. Just thought that was worth mentioning as it seemed relevant, though pretty redundant/expected, I'd assume.

Put your dick in your mouth.

If it's really that bad chew gum.

its a fucking side effect of ecstasy chew some orbit man. dude any kind of amp will make you grind and chew.

i get the same problem whenever i roll. it gets quite annoying, but i try my best to not fuck up my teeth and keep the clenching to a minimum. but yeah dude, most of the time it's unavoidable. in which case, i chew gum.

Yeh my teeth/gums have been majorly fucked up/raw most/many of the days after of the times I've rolled, though it would be much worse if I didn't suck/chew on a pacifier/straw while on that stuff usually, as I've noticed while rolling several times, myself grinding my teeth while rolling, where I can actually feel some of the enamel or whatever grinding away or getting messed up, and it hurts/stings slightly sometimes, so I usually stop right when I notice that and start chewing on something, but then the chewing doesn't stop for HOURS. Like this coffee stirrer has been in my mouth for approximately 3 hours, at least 2, I believe. It also sucks, I should note, that the chewing often persists even after I come down. As now, I should be feeling minimal/threshold effects, or at the very least (which I mainly suspect), the euphoric effects mainly diminished, with only (likely low-dose or minimal) stimulating effects still being felt (NOTE: Add definite insomnia, or at least a lack of a desire to sleep). Heart beat ain't too fast, but I'm still kinda restless and chewing the fuck out of this thing as well as pacing back and forth virtuall non-stop when I don't distract myself with a seat and totse/myspace/GTA IV.

I've noticed that I typically overuse parentheses and slashes.

Then your brother's dick after you gnaw off your own.

ahh, i see. that fucking sucks. dude, try to brush your teeth right when you start coming down.

but when you brush, do it softly and not in a rigorous manner as you would on normal occasions.

do it for like 4-5 minutes; i do this whenever i roll, and it does have a considerable effect in making me feel better.

but in the end, you'll have to give it your all to control the situation.

i've noticed lately that my teeth haven't been in the best shape. this is one of my motivational factors for cutting down on the clenching.

good luck though, dude. i thought i'd share these tips because they do work for me.

Thank you, any and all serious tips are much appreciated, man, though as you said it mostly will just boil down to willpower and mental motivation/effort or lack thereof. Hm, out of curiosity, does anybody else mildly enjoy the ache that takes place in the jaw, resulting from such continuous chewing/grinding/what have you?

Like I said, it's kind of a pleasurable ache I get when I've been chewing for longer than a couple hours, almost literally nonstop. Hopefully it won't actually hurt tomorrow and will retain its subtlety, especially considering I will probably re-dose (orally this time) in the morning sometime.

You know those small microdermabrasion vibrator handhelds? If you take off the abrasive pad, and just rest the plastic end on the joint of the jaw, mucho happy and mucho relief.

http://www.catwalkbeauty.co.uk/ekmps/shops/catwalkbeauty/images/microdermabrasion.jpg

In combination to the massage, take your tongue and make it stick to the roof of your mouth so that you can pull the tethered part and stretch. This naturally relieves clenching because of the leverage of what you are actually doing with your mouth.

Also, taking a regular dose of magnesium and calcium prior and post, helps un/ionize the minerals in your jaw muscles, which allows them to relax; unelectrolytifying the nerves. (just a theory)

I always grind my teeth, always have always will. Indulging in MDMA, Cocaine, or anything that increases the adrenal gland is much worse for me. I usually always have a pack of gum with me, or my fingers, or the plastic wrap from a soda bottle, or that rubbery adhesive you get from things attached in magazines.

The dro seemed to help. I don't know if it's that it's been long enough for all/most of the stuff to be out of my system, though that could've been said for the most part a while ago, or if it's that the dro helped to chill me out, or (most likely) a combination of the two, but I'm not really clenching/chewing anymore right now, after two bowls of dro, and 2-3 Newports. I'm getting to thinking, it's already getting to morning, at this rate, I won't sleep until POSSIBLY even the afternoon or until tomorrow night, because I'm supposed to chill with my girlfriend and our two friends who are going out and go on a mini road trip to West Palm and Stuart or whatever... I planned on dosing orally (for extended-release purposes which helps in this all-day situation) and likely some more intranasally (for euphoric/peak benefits/control).... Maybe I should do this WITHOUT the falling asleep and waking up, and just pull an all-nighter all the way through?

Note that I already have another 10mg line broken down and laid out that I never snorted, and I have 6 unbroken 10mg capsules... I don't really have a tolerance, except for last night/earlier where I snorted 40mg, I believe, throughout an hour and a half and felt pretty good, still feeling insomnia if I'm not mistaken.... What would be a good dose for oral and intranasal administrations, to best balance recreational and medicinal benefits?

TL;DR version: After being wired all night, what are best dosages for popping and snorting the rest of this 70mg?

Btw, dexmethylphenidate a.k.a. Focalin in case you had no idea what I was talking about specifically.

*secretly hopes for a buncha RIGHT NOW MOARRRRR IN NOSE!! replies*

Also, taking a regular dose of magnesium and calcium prior and post, helps un/ionize the minerals in your jaw muscles, which allows them to relax; unelectrolytifying the nerves. (just a theory)

+1 for making up science.

I don't get so much chewing as I do just a really tight jaw. Gum helps a lot but I find with a tight jaw my jar muscles and bones stick out loads giving me the nickname Skeletor when I roll!

There isn't really much you can do to prevent it, just put up with it.

Yeh, I'm way overanalytical right now, since late last night/early today and expect to continue being as such, and I love it because it's making me think and my opinions and perceptions are growing and maturing. ANYWAYS, noting that as a sort of warning, I suppose, I will now continue my "speed"-(as I like to call it, though it doesn't fully do the term justice to an experienced speed user, especially some of you veterans who use meth regularly on here, or have/did in the past)induced rambling, which my friend who stayed the night and only smoked weed (dro, however, and he has virtually no THC tolerance at the moment, having not smoked in quite a while, and much desiring to do so as soon as he arrived xD I, of course, was glad to oblige (both to his suggestion and my noticed-yet-not-cared-about-by-me rambling I constantly do while wired on whatever)and did a low dose of Racer way earlier on, has had to put up with, but thankfully, considering his self-proclaimed sociopathy (which he has backed up quite convincingly for quite a while), he doesn't mind, as I've openly asked him, and he's quite an intellectual himself so the pointless thinking would definitely not typically be viewed as a negative thing or endeavor, especially by him, quite a thinker himself. And, good sir, I must add merrily: yay. Note: decided to have some keyword EMPATHY, which is ironic in my mind and his, if he was paying attention, for a couple idiotic reasons which could only be associated to something so different, or in such a weird manner, by an OCD mind such as mine. Woooooooot. Considering the questionable? but seemingly-plausible "fact" (don't believe EVERYTHING you hear, at least until you research it, which I haven't done for this specifically) that OCD is typically/commonly/whatever specific word she used caused by some form of anxiety. Though whether these two snippets are related or not, I've also READ from some science text book I was browsing through for interesting sections and parts, that most people with OCD that have been tested in this case, had higher/more activity in the frontal lobe (not sure what specific lobe was mentioned, if any, just that it was in/at/near the "front" of the brain. Like, waaay more active, registered on the picture as mostly red/yellow/orange, with very few low-activity/inactive (virtually none of the inactive, but I like to take all possibilities into account obviously, especially when on such a pointless trivial piece of information such as this which seems so important in my overly-stimulated NON-HAZE aka CLARITY of RAMBLING about, and probably in some way about in and of itself, being overanalytical or thinking waaaaaaaaaay more than necessary, to put it simply. I should stop, or at least stop typing out all my thoughts, or at the VERY LEAST stop doing so on totse. Don't worry/flame/troll/mod me too bad, I'll stop, and you don't even have to wait for my crash, I promise.

But anyways, yes, I'll probably make a topic about that OCD point at a more sober/OBJECTIVELY clear moment, or when I feel more like caring about that specific subject, or when there's more activity on totse, or basically as all these imply, whenever the fuck I have a valid reason to cause, or simply in and of itself (I overused that phrase in this rant), MOTIVATION. YAY FOR AMOTIVATION, THOUGH. EVEN WHEN ENERGETIC I AIN'T GOT SHIT TO DO. Wow, I probably sound pretty idiotic, but keep in mind, who doesn't sound idiotic when 1)They're rambling. Most people have a reason for rambling, though more often than not, it's an EXCUSE, not a reason, and 2)We all get high, and sometimes make fools of ourselves, and sometimes even do so while fully conscious and previously aware of the future forming of this foolishness being viewed by others, but I'm totally just enjoying a drug, and feel like sharing.

Note (overuse that term/phrase a lot too, but at least there's no colon here.... maybe yet?... we'll see): (there it is) ... fuck it, I'll start over with a comma.

Note that the majority of totseans will either react/respond/reply/rrrrrrrrr negatively to this post right when they see it, and most likely the INITIAL and MORE THAN LIKELY continued reaction is and will be DEFINITELY NEGATIVE, by some and in some ways, deservedly (and apathetically acceptedly) so, but in many ways I'll be a typical totsean's victim. Use WORDS (less skillfully than I do, fool) to ATTEMPT to make me look inferior to you or to make me feel bad (impossible atm, despite totse's not-so-uncommon effect when I'm high on CERTAIN euphoric/blissful/apathetic drugs to merely not give a fuck and just close the window or go to another topic. But I'm used to it, and not only expect, but in some ways (almost?) accept and embrace the fact that that's just how totse is, and if I didn't love it, I wouldn't come here.

Quite a few of you probably hate me, for varyingly valid and idiotic reasons, though valid reason or not, why waste time/effort/passion (required for true hatred, duh; referring to that latter/last one) HATING someone you DON'T EVEN KNOW, and for all you know, DOESN'T EVEN EXIST. Which I don't. Or do I? I know I do, but you can't be positive, other than the fact that you know SOMETHING, SOME ENTITY must have THOUGHT UP and then DECIDED TO TYPE OUT and then CLICK THAT POST BUTTON, THEN EDIT BUTTON THEN SAVE BUTTON HOWEVER MANY TIMES IT TAKES, and you either think I'm an idiot for doing so, you're indifferent to it because I'm just some dumb tweaker/druggie/kidiot/however it is from your UNIQUE perspective...

I'm wasting my time here, and I'm just realizing that and the significance of it. Let me assure you of one thing, though, this rambling has been mostly about the rambling in general and the affects/reactions/etc. it will most likely have, and probably already has had in many cases, depending on whether you base that on when you read this or when I posted it. I reassure you very sincerely and, if taken it all, take this as coming from someone who shares his very HIGH AT THE MOMENT on this FACT, and would not abide any disagreement or refute, no matter how well thought out, because not only am I stating the FACT that this was subjectively perceived to have been so from me, but my perception of such was relatively (as in, VERY MUCH in RELATION to most/many other things and in relation to their typical (in whatever situation/conditions/circumstances are being referred to here/by this) amounts of such) objective. And all that parentheses bullshit directly previous to this sentence and clarifications/specifications or whatever you want to call them are, admittedly, very wordy like this whole damn post, and unnecessarily redundant, I would allow one to say, but in my current state of mind, I dunno if this is a symptom, or intensified symptom of my OCD, the intensification (potentiation?) caused by the uppers, as sounds reasonable considering the high-activity-certain-lobe theory I've read, would explain, or if it's the drug and OCD has nothing to do with it, though from my experience OCD is and will continue to be a negative AND positive part of my life that I can't get rid of even when I REALLY want to... but yeh, I've OBVIOUSLY HAD TO HAVE NOTICED that UPPERS/stimulants are not the best thing for anxiety specifically, and OCD is not only NOT helped, but to the contrary, very often, by certain stimulants and many stimulants in general, hell, I could even say it about buproprion, seems to be at LEAST somewhat worse, though temporary enough for me to still find enjoyment, and I'm so used to it that it doesn't usually directly bother me unless it's some ritual or some shit specific that pisses me off/frustrates me/I've already done a buncha times recently or just PERIOD and I get tired of it after extended periods of time.

WOW, yeah, this is why weed is OKAY (though from self-experimentation and observation, even weed doesn't help with my OCD, and specifically some of my stupid/hard to explain/most easily explained by vague references to the fact that my mind, basically, just seems to associate things really different/weirdly to most people, and so I keep things a certain number, or facing a certain direction, or I avoid certain of each of those things and whatever else I mention, because it'll bother the fuck out of me if I either don't have it a certain way or if I don't AVOID something that, as I said in this very same sentence, and is very concise let says quite a bit, I'd say, is that it BOTHERS ME. Man, I ramble and go off on tangents and overclarify and a lot of shit a lot. Like I said, I could see this being a result of OCD, or placebo of thinking such, but I have no idea for a certainty.

To keep this post RELATIVELY ON TOPIC, if anyone either decides to read through all those thoughts which I never consciously decided to start thinking about OR actually consciously made the decision to start typing them (with no intentions of stopping and crushing down those beads to prepare for another LINE, fuck I lost track of time a WHILE ago, how long's it been since I've been EDITING this bitch, let alone posted it? In REASON FOR EDITING, I still don't know what to put, as this rambling in and of itself, and mainly the cause of it, seems to be the primary topic of discussion in my overly-stimulated yet not-to-the-point-I'd-be-totally-and-utterly-satisfied-with-but-still-noticeably-stimulated-body, xD for over-hyphenezation and making up words for the WIN. Okay, those last couple bits make it obvious that this is at least SOMEWHAT, though most likely largely drug-induced ranting/rambling/not sure which of those former two sounds more appropriate, so it's definitely one of those and not this excessively long/redundant, once again, right there, too, and there redundancies spill abroad, third option which is obviously a failed attempt at a joke and a horrendous, though possibly properly-executed run-on sentence (or lack of run-onery, as would be the result of it WAS properly executed sentence structure, MEANING LACK OF RUN-ON SENTENCERY, though run-onery sounds better).

Wow, all this pointless rambling when I had a point in mind towards the beginning is not only frustrating to me, but I'm sure will quite annoy those with their typical/MOSTLY indifferent TL;DR version, or STFU, GTFO N00B responses, so generic in their ways, BUT I think the words are less important rather than that there's a LOT of them, and that fact, their large quantity, in and of itself, is AT LEAST SOME sort of evidence that my mind is overly-active in some aspects, even considering the fairly nice recent recreational insufflation of dexmethylphenidate (repeated dose to pick me back up from partial/total comedown/crash).

Because, as I said, OVERLY-ACTIVE is my mind, which is a word used to describe one of the particular frontal lobes (if there are more than one frontal lobe, not even sure) in the brain, point being, people with OCD usually/more than likely/more often than others generally do, whatever the case may be, HAVE A MORE ACTIVE FRONTAL REGION OF THE BRAIN THAN THE AVERAGE/NON-OCD (or not as bad, as some people like to argue that everyone has SOME form/level/degree/SOMEWHERE in the spectrum of OCD, as many things can be attributed to being a symptom of this disorder. And obviously, look, though on "kiddy-speed" (new dub, maybe new username for more appropriate, non-psychedelic, tweaking occasions? Well, then to be fair I'd need a much-more-commonly-used-and-quite-enjoyable/past-time hobby INSPIRATION for another personal favorite (of which there are many) of mine, opiates.

Try some gum.

You're not going to stop it unless you stop doing uppers.

I hear winter-fresh works.

Anyone remember Beech-nut gum? I found some old sticks while cleaning out a closet, still tasted good even though it was from the 80's.

Erm... What relation did that have to my post? Looks like someone's tweaking right now!

I like the life savers mint flavored things. It's good to keep your mouth busy, and the mint or whatever adds to the sensation. Try some chewing tobacco maybe if you want to.

AHAH, WHICH LED ME TO FINALLY HAVING A POINT, IN THE (HOPEFULLY) VERY LAST PARAGRAPH, IF YOU READ NO OTHER PART OF THIS, WHICH GODS KNOW YOU'LL REGRET IF YOU DO, UNLESS YOU'RE TWEAKING AS HARD OR PREFERABLY WAAAAY HARDER THAN ME OR FOR SOME OTHER REASON/DRUG FEEL INTROSPECTIVE/THOUGHTFUL/INTELLECTUAL/PHILOSOPHICAL? at the moment, or whenever you come back to this. My point is, I've noticed that benzodiazepines, being very effective as anxiolytic (anti-anxiety medication, duh), I have found, whether coincidentally or CAUSED by this anxiolytic effect, that they seem to chill me out with my more major rituals/most of my OCD shit in general, when I'm on a low-moderate recreational dose of benzo's, especially ALPRAZOLAM SPECIFICALLY.

When barred out (yep, I'm using another paragraph, my bad, and also, more (yep, I'm using another paragraph, my bad, and also, more seem to trust MAOI's very much, as I don't see them often mentioned as being used for specifically treating OCD, and I hate being bunched up into having Depression or some bullshit, considering that at ONE of my ventures to the psych ward, on an alleged attempted overdose on MELATONIN of all fucking things, which I DID admittedly take 40mg of, but I certainly would not have died from it. The hospitalization if anything, helped make it process HEALTHIER, I suppose, but the resulting psychological hospitalization was unnecessary and merely served as a sort of FIRST INTRODUCTION TO THE SYSTEM (which, I must say, deserves to be anally fucked without a condom or lube, hard) (and the damn lady didn't know shit about disorders or conditions, psychological OR otherwise, I'm sure, and merely knew my situation, or what was reported of it, then typed MANIC DEPRESSIVE or some shit into the computer, and that "diagnosis" has fucking stuck with me ever since, it seems. (redundancy again I know, one more paragraph to explain my thoughts on my redundancy/overclarification which seems so common throughout my writing in general, especially stimulant-induced in general, to be more specific, yet general at the same time..., especially when people look at my past and my record and various things that haunt us throughout our lives legally, and in many other societal ways. Ooh nice word, societal. But yeah, like I was saying ABOUT MY MAIN POINT, what meds would you recommend specifically for OCD, specifically, the types/symptoms I mentioned, and what drugs/medications recreational/medicinal both, would you recommend I AVOID as well, any advice, and anti-rant flames are accepted.
Speaking of yay, I wish I had some, but eh I guess this does for the time being until I run out and then get enough money to buy at LEAST a personal gram, hopefully I'll get an 8-ball soon or something, yeeeeeesh I can't wait, I've been craving that shit for a MINUTE now, mainly/primarily since/beginning during my 5-day stay in juvie semi-recently, and I've finally got another GOOD, RELIABLE, NON-RIPOFF, FIRE weed hookup a.k.a. dro from my friend's neighbor who is chill as fuck with me. He doesn't even smoke bud, just sells it. Started me off the first couple times at $30 a gram for dro, now he's cutting me wonderful deals, so why the fuck else go to anyone else? Basically, it's simply that he's got it to the point, and to the fortunate non-personal-use, and with the weight, (coming from Georgia apparently, his homeboys that grow dro or whatever. It doesn't seem as great as the dro I had back in the day, but it is definitely noticeably more fragile/potent, and smells good.


Too much editing/too little care after doing another line, so I'm throwing a buncha rambling into two incoherent posts. Two of those paragraphs have a valid point ALONG with a question, so read at your own risk, I'm serious, this was a major time-waster, though it helped, considering that my buddy (reasonably so) passed out AGAIN a little bit ago, and I feel like being considerate and letting him sleep.

The main thing I've noticed benefitial from benzodiazepines has not been shit like my OCD magically disappears, like I don't still THINK/associate things that way or like that, but rather, I notice it and realize that it's the right time/conditions/circumstances/situation/whathaveyou to do a certain ritual or something I can LOGICALLY view as stupid, yet still not DO, even when sober.... Well, benzo's make me not do these rituals, at least not as strictly, or often/frequently as is usual, when sober or as I am more often than not, high on SOMETHING (usually being weed, other shit whenever it's around, which is NOOOOOOOOOOW, yay)....

I'm sure a lot of pointless/maybe slightly meaningful, though not too likely, rambling has gotten lost in translation to sobriety-languages, English being primaryest, and to be a BIT more concise, though I could've used more than a BIT, capitalized for emphasis though that BIT may be...

I need to either calm down with the tweaking or dose up a shitload more, aka to the point where i don't give a fuck about thinking, I just FEEL GOOD. another line, possibly with another behind it, or if i manage to salvage some responsibility/rational aka nonaddictive/dependent thinking, I can keep at least 2 or the 3 remaining nonbroken 10 mg capsules for ORAL use, though I'm definitely a major glutton, ESPECIALLY when it comes to nose-candy, and a nice upper like this to remind me of yay, while being comfortably closer to speed, AND it's white powder, and totally without burn, the best part of all.

I have one relevant and two semi-relevant paragraphs to add to my post, mostly to explain the major tweakage and help you sort through to the part that was relevant IN ANY FUCKING WAY, SHAPE, OR FORM, to your post and required me to quote it. Here:

Oh, here it is: I've noticed that it's not really an urge to actually chew that I get, but mainly it's that I, in general, somehow crave, get an urge for, and/or enjoy..? clenching my teeth, so I guess I just substitute it for chewing, as it creates the "desired?" jaw tension, which produces a mildly enjoyable (temporarily, it begins to get too much after a while and/or when the uppers in question wear off, whichever makes it seem more painful subjectively, which is definitely what I have experienced, especially very recently) ache.


NOTE: COLONSPACESPACETHE PREVIOUS PARAGRAPH HAS THE ACTUAL DIRECT POINT OF THE TOPIC, WHICH WAS THE POINT OF QUOTING THAT OTHER POSTER IN THE FIRST PLACE. THE REST IS RAMBLING, APPROXIMATELY 2 PARAGRAPHS OF WHICH, POSSIBLY MORE, CONTAINS RELEVANT-TO-BLTC/ON-TOPIC/A POINT, IN GENERAL XD.


Wow, most of the rambling, long paragraphs started out small/more readable, then I had way too much to add. Gods, thinking is fun, but like everything else, I need to learn MODERATION GODDAMNIT.

Yes...

Use gum. Simple as that.

And you're worried you can't smoke a cigarette because you "have" to chew? Just don't chew for those few minutes...it's not that difficult. Having a strong compulsion and being under involuntary control is two totally different things that I think you're confusing here.

When I first started taking amps I made it a point to be self-aware of any jaw clenching and/or mouth chewing and made sure to stop myself when doing these things. Doing that in my early use has made it easier and easier for me to avoid jaw clenching or chewing at all and nowadays when I use amps I rarely ever encounter that problem. I occasionally get the sore-teeth syndrome but a good brushing or a piece of gum is typically enough to remedy that.

Brushing your teeth on amphetamines is awesome, by the way.

Btw, sorry for the multiple posts in a row, I should better utilize the wonderful Edit feature, I know, but obviously that didn't turn out too well last time, and lasted for me ranting on for I dunno HOW fucking long it took me to type all that..... Just random thoughts popping onto my screen. For any of you elitist totsean assholes, mainly the veterans who I have some sort of respect for (smart ones, that is, those at least KNOWLEDGEABLE, or lacking knowledge and therefore making a RATIONAL/LOGICAL decision to EDUCATE themselves. Yes, I like to emphasize certain words a lot, and moving my pinky to the left slightly and tapping caps lock is a lot less work than maneuvering my fingers as necessary (two of which would be likely to be used in such an about-to-be-described situation, which, with the not-so-oft-used about-to-be-described phrase in effect, it is only proper that I had a colon... one before AND one after, the parantheses, for EXTRA overanalytical skills (skill, psh, wouldn't call it that much, more of a burden at times, though a blessing to be quite so observant, especially, surprisingly enough when I catch a certain kind/quality of high, i.e. weed, though arguably and definitely in such valid cases, rather subjectively, considered a SOCIAL drug in various situations, especially the simplicity of being an old PASTTIME/HOBBY for a group of well-known/trusted/new friends to chill together. I had to add that new after an extra slash, to show that it is a part, though separate (meaning best left up to personal preference and discretion, whether or not you include these all together), meaning the well-known/trusted/new designations. New HAS to be there, because from my personal experience, though the opposite/negative EVEN POLAR OPPOSITE TOTALLY, could be experience by others, obviously, drugs are unique, subjective experiences, which is what is so amazing/mindblowing/yet so SIMPLE about them. They are EACH unique, and even the SAME chemical from the SAME batch, taking into account every variable such as dosage and tolerance, which wouldn't even be totally necessary, or even desirable, to most druggies, as it's all just TAKE A HIT, when it comes to "drugs" (many of which I consider herbs, like weed and ginseng, among many other naturally-occurring, USE-AS-IS (most important part there, to why I call them herbs, as they can be used as-is, as-is in different containers/forms of encapsulation/etc. or in an entirely different/refined/cut/adulterated/diluted/various degrees of potency and purity state. There is so much versatility, diversity, and difference, even with drugs within the same class such as stimulants, though in a broader, more general classification such as this, the differences are more pronounced, prevalent, AND prominent (I use many adjectives, usually 2 or 3, AT LEAST 3 MOST OF THE TIME, oftentimes, though not NECESSARILY, i.e. MADE INTO A NECESSITY BY MYSELF (mind (emotion/intellect/reason/logic/morality or lack thereof/ethics or, once again, lack thereof, which having a lack of such subjective issues, is totally and entirely acceptable and in certain attitudes, and within certain ideologies and belief system, quite desirable, I'd say, and I'm sure plenty of others would agree, body, soul, or whathaveyou/whatever you believe in/whatever components you personally perceive, or society in general perceives, or whoever in question with relation to significance and relevance to any particular situation at hand or drug use in general throughout humans, or even if you look at it throughout the animal kingdom, or even taking into account every kingdom (animal, plant, fungi, etc. etc. etc. etc. etc.)..... SPECIFICALLY perceives, as making up an "entity" or "person" or "human" or "man" or "woman" or "human being" or "being" in general, or whatever term with varying degrees in the differing spectrums of clarity/specificity/vagueness/whatever the fuck OPPOSING CONCEPTS WITH A VALID IDEA/CONCEPTUALIZATION, at the LEAST, of a sort of SPECTRUM, of varying and existing-in-various-forms, times, places, etc. , but mostly, to express certain DEGREES of SOMETHING/ANYTHING. Notice specifically my tendency, (whether it be in general, or specifically while stimulated/wired/tweaked/whathaveyourandomasstermsandslangwordstheseyoungun susenowadays, though it'd be pretty pathetic VIRTUALLY ANY DAY for ME to accurately/legitimately/SERIOUSLY i.e. non-jokingly, i.e. what that thing that flew over your head (probably because you're not tweaking, unless you are, in which case you either TOTALLY get what I'm saying or are STARING INTENTLY AT THAT SPIDER AND SPECULATING ON SEVERAL THINGS INCLUDING ITS SIZE, LIFESTYLE IN COMPARISON TO YOUR OWN, which leads to contemplations of YOUR OWN LIFESTYLE IN COMPARED TO THE "AVERAGE/GOOD AKA MOST LIKELY (or as would be typically viewed as such by the typical drone/sheep of society, and/or the desired effect of social stigmas and other such things caused by society and its existence in general), AND SPECIFICALLY IN MOST CASES, THOUGH NOT ALWAYS, NON-DRUG-USING INDIVIDUAL/PERSON".... See, now I'm starting to realize, as I did on my first semi-high dose (is 90 mg, then 60 mg the next day, both orally) a "high" or "large" dose of Adderall aka amphetamine salts (Amphetamine Salts in place of (whatever concise/desireable-in-this-situation/contrary-to-the-second-and-this,-the-THIRD,-choice/designation within the first set of slashes, I, to clarify, having specified specifically the FIRST set of slashes, as the SECOND set of slashes was a double-choice/designation purposely and ironically-minded/to further showcase my redundancy, either as a result of my conscious thoughts and decisions concerning such, which seems much less likely in comparison to my SUBconscious thoughts and decisions(if you can call them, though primitive and undeveloped fully, yet still quite valuable to a person, as they should be, as they are, IN THIS FORM).

MAN, all I've been doing is showcasing my uber-redundance/OVERclarification/OVERanalyzation/seemingly RANDOM emphasis in various forms-mostly-being-capitalization-because-it's-simpler/quicker/faster-than-most-other-forms-of-emphasis,-though-all-have-different-connotations-and-at-LEAST-SUBconscious-associations, especially with as active and possessing-a-large-amount-of-free-time-similar in size or amount/dosage of stimulants/other thought-producing drugs, weed included in that for the THOUGHT-PRODUCING aspect, not the drug aspect, which I sincerely and firmly am against ANY way of classifying weed as a drug, especially in a society in which, caused by social stigmas, alcohol seems almost, and to some extent, totally, in CERTAIN INDIVIDUALS, of course, as, I've said way too many times yet can't ever stress enough, drugs are, as could be argued about life and many shit in general, but ESPECIALLY drugs, as they are the most UNDOUBTEDLY of such, ARE, as I was saying, and separated various related/not-so-related/unrelated thoughts with various things, including commas, hyphens (though not as often for a related, but unnecessary/redundant thought, especially concerning the redundant ones, as they usually seem to find a way into my speech, whether typed or spoken, though not as OBVIOUSLY, BLATANTLY, APPARENTLY, and various other synonyms of CONSPICUOUSLY, and even, in some respects, SUSPICIOUSLY (where concerning those with major suspicions/paranoia issues/trust issues/drug-induced paranoia/psychosis/ANXIETY, which has been previously mentioned as a POSSIBLE, though-not-as-logical/rational-seeming-as-the-overactivity-in-the-frontal-lobe, though they might, once again, possibly, (though couldn't anything worth mention be) be (mis)construed as bragging/gloating/arrogance/condescension/various negative-at-LEAST-in-MY-point-of-VIEW (yes that last one was randomly capitalized, as is showcased my randomness EVEN IN THE ASPECT SPECIFICALLY of my randomizationness woot!). Man, I'm tweaking. I don't know how people can expect to stay focused on one particular subject (i.e., in school), while on this shit, unless ADD/ADHD is an actually genetically/chemically/psychologically-existing-and-preferably-though-as-is-not-necessary,-as-is-showcased-by-mass-social-non-stigma-concerning-it-than-other, even totally similar, which can arguably, more effectively/totally treat/cure (in some cases cure, or after a long period of time, the medication is no longer needed, though doubtful in the case of the developings of a psychological dependence, or, in the uber-unfortunate and non-cautious, a physical addiction, to speedy drugs, especially those specifically referred to as "speed" in and of itself, said as if a specific drug, or even class of drugs, as is in many ways. Examples and anti-examples within the more vague classification of "stimulants" being coke/caffeine/probably a few more I'm forgetting, though "speed" classification being more specific and consisting mostly/sorely/entirely of amphetamines, or some form or mutation, if you will, thereof, including methamphetamines, dextroamphetamine, dexamphetamine, even in some aspects and in respect to certain/some social stigmas/shit-that's-ingrained-into-your-mind-since-you're-too-young-to-fully-understand/comphrehend (yes I managed to slip a parantheses AND a slash rant WITHIN the already rant-label-worthy, hyphen-rant, AND two more arguable hyphen-RANTS (emphasized, with a parantheses-in-parantheses-action, and MORE hyphens right BEFORE <----- your eyes, your own very eyes, presented to you by a computer screen.


Wow, like I was saying and trying to get stuck/stick with this particular subject, I OBVIOUSLY go off on rants/tangents when I'm on uppers, especially shit some, including I, consider "speed", which, in this case, if not in all/most (which I would assume would be for all non-druggies/newer-druggies/new-druggies/newfags/New Arrivals/Acolytes/Newbies/N00bs to drugs in general, and the lifestyle and culture associated with it, and the subculture(s) within the overall drug "culture" or SUBculture, as it could be contained in and of itself, in a way, manifesting the need for the concept of a sort of SUBSUBCULTURE, though overclarification, and, whether that overclarification be the CAUSE OR THE EFFECT OF, OR TOTALLY UNRELATED TO, to overanalyzation or such things, my main point in this particular paragraph, which seems to be mostly/all ONE sentence, depending on how long I can keep this on, and how skillfully I manage to continue manipulating my native tongue, English, which I believe I am very skilled in, though not boastfully so. As in, I do it, and at times (though this is a better time than ever, if you're in my shoes, at this moment, i.e. not a few hours later whenever I crash, or SEVERAL hours later whenever I crash HARDER, whichever occurs first, which will most likely be the one with the oh-most-desireable-when-referring-to-comedowns/crashes word LATER, which is ESPECIALLY desireable in stimulants even analgesic/topical anesthetic in classification, of which there are multiple, as is the case with most/at LEAST many drugs.

But AS I WAS SAYING, AND HAVE BEEN SAYING FOR THE PAST PARAGRAPH AND A HALF, AT LEAST, I overanalyze a lot, and I EXPRESS this much more openly and with more motivation/passion/random spurts of energy/energy whenever I do another line/etc., with many stimulants, ranging from Cocaine to Crack (from the low/moderate doses I experience my two times fucking with that shit SO FAR, though no SPECIFIC PLANS to do so ANYTIME SOON, TO BE EXACT. Too expensive, and doesn't last nearly long enough to be worthwhile for going OUT OF MY WAY FOR, if I don't have enough excess/unnecessary-when-speaking-in-regards-to-certain-NEED-TO-PAY-type-of-payments/bills/mortgages, etc., other ADULT, i.e. over the magical number which I have another year and month or so, to reach, 18. However, I also said the same thing about coke in the past, and still firmly believe it in a rational sense, though in a more pleasure-seeking/hedonist/glutton/sloth sense, I know that, and I know my limits, also gaining confidence in surpassing such simple social stigmas, as well as more complicated ones, COMBINED, as being able to say I tried Crack my first time with an 30-year-old black dude who I knew slightly from previously selling me weed once or twice at the gas station, and I continued to know even after the VERY-ADMITTEDLY-MORESO-THAN-EVEN-NORMALLY-"ADMITTEDLY"-GRADE-STUFF-because-it's-hard-to-admit/not something I usually DO admit to people who have heard the story and PERSONALLY know me IRL, except for a few, much/well-trusted exceptions, who have more than deserved the level of trust, which is pretty much all-encompassing/unconditional/total/entire/WHOLE.

Anyways, as is obvious by my overclarification in this threat, even being so desiring-to-be-articulate-moreso-than-usual, I ARTICULATE, a notably previously-used word, within this very sentence, which was used as a different part of speech, THIS latter form being a verb, rather than an adjective. But yes, my overclarification is more than anything a direct result of, as Lateralus by Tool likes to so wisely point out (as is so much better understood on a good ol' dose of 4 hits of acid, give or take however many to alter/change/better-handle the potency/intensity/peakPEAKPEAKPEAKPEAKPEAKWITHLSD IS INTENSE AS FUCK YAAAAAAY I NEED TO TRIP AGAIN SOMETIME very soon to sort of "cleanse my aura" whether that be taken figuratively or even literally, though anywhere in between would be generally acceptable(by me, I suppose)/accepted (by who-the-fuck-cares, because, really, WHO THE FUCK CARES, WHO specifically accepts/loves/pays attention to/cares for/SHOWS you that they care for YOU, or more importantly than all that less-than-equal-to-this-magnitude-of-bullshit BULLSHIT, it is important to have SPECIAL RESERVES OF APATHY AND INDIFFERENCE aka opiates hahahahahahah, or maybe benzo's, or a mix of the two? Opiates, for the most part, = apathy, as do benzo's in some sense, though the single-word-that-best-summarily-describes-benzo-recreational-use-without-getting-too-wordy-like-this-abomination-of-hyphenation-in-general-and,-if-you-could-consider-it-a-word,-rather-than-a-bastardized-SPACELESS (need a spacebar? No, obviously, I've been ranting on quite properly LANGUAGE ARTS-wise, at least, not necessarily intellect-wise, or NON-apathy/lethargy/indifference-wise, i.e. CARING, which I, for some reason, described as NON-various-forms-of-NOTCARING, inwhich NOTCARING is a mixture of several different shades/degrees/hues/connotations/mixtures of apathy/lethargy/indifference/various other synonyms all of which make this JUST as redundant, if not TWICE as much so FOR EACH AND EVERY FUCKING MINOR LITTLE FUCKING REDUNDANCY.

Back to the MAIN POINT, ANYHOW, WHICH NOW LEADS FROM THIS PARAGRAPH HAVING A CAPITALIZED PHRASE 'MAIN POINT', TO EMPHASIZING THE ENTIRE PARAGRAPH, BY CAPITALIZING THE REST OF IT, AS WELL, FROM THE POINT ON, AND USING THE PROPER PUNCTUATION EVEN BEFORE ULTRA-UBER-OMNIPOTENT-CAPITALIZATION. ANYWAYS, THAT WAS A WASTE OF A SENTENCE AND PROBABLY POOR/BELOW-AVERAGE SENTENCE STRUCTURE IN THE FIRST PLACE, LIKE THE MAJORITY OF THIS DRIBBLE PASSED OFF AS RAMBLING (YES, NOT EVEN GOOD ENOUGH TO BE RAMBLING). THIS PARAGRAPH, HOWEVER, CONTRARY TO POPULAR TOTSEAN (SPECIFICALLY, AS THAT IS THE SITE IN WHICH WE CURRENTLY RESIDE, AS OUR CYBER AVATARS, AT THE VERY LEAST, HAS A POINT, THOUGH THIS PARAGRAPH DOES NOT CONTAIN, NOR IS IT, THE MAIN POINT, IN QUESTION AND IN REFERENCE TO THIS ENTIRE POST. THE POINT OF THIS PARAGRAPH IS TO FURTHER DISTRESS ANTI-TROLL TOTSEANS AND PRO-FLAME TOTSEANS JUST FOR SHITS AND GIGGLES, BUT, FOR THE MOST PART, TO WARN AND POINT OUT TO YOU, IN EQUAL PARTS, FOR DIVIDING EQUALLY/UNEQUALLY, HOWEVER YOU SEE FIT, TO BETTER ACCOMMODATE THE WORLD AS YOU PERCEIVE IT, YOUR PERCEPTION BEING SPECIFIC AND ALL SUCH SYNONYMS WHICH WILL REMAIN UNNAMED, AS SPECIFIC SHOULD SERVE ENOUGH TO INVOKE/EVOKE (WHICH ONE IS PROPER IN THIS CONTEXT) THE IDEA OF SPECIFICITY, IF THAT IS EVEN A WORD, WHICH I HIGHLY DOUBT, ANYWAY AS I WAS RAMBLING IN LARGE CAPITALIZED TEXT, THIS PARAGRAPH IS MERELY USED AS FILLER, AND TO POINT OUT THAT THE NEXT.

The MAIN point, BEING, as I'VE seemingly INVARIABLY and INEVITABLY gone ON literally COUNTLESS tangents of randomosity and pointless/meaningless-ness (the -ness suffix encompassing both the words contained within the slash-holder-bringer-together-in-similar-meaning,-the-slash-itself-mostly-just-vaguely-translating-to-something-like-and/or,-something-generic-you-know-FUCKIDIDITAGAIN, this is hard to keep focused on making an actual point, rambling is like irresistible, almost as much as the idea of chewing now that I've brought it up. Let's see how long I can keep my jaw from tensing up and/or clenching, similar though those two terms may be, different general and/or specific ideas, they could very well invoke, and talk like Yoda, I do.

ANYWAYS, this is the REAL paragraph with the point, and I'm NOT doing this on purpose I swear, though at LEAST a small percentage of it must be placebo, or at LEAST placebo MIXED with valid chemical reaction, but for all I know it could be a combination of those two, or lack thereof, COMBINED with the THIRD option, which is that my normally overly-active and OCD-PLAGUED, yes I said muthafucking PLAGUED, mind, is, well, overly-active. To put it simply, I am having SOME form of though, USUALLY THOUGH NOT ALWAYS, on a conscious, fully formed awarely, level of thought. Sometimes it differs in the aspects of its existence and its traits/aspects/characteristics/attributes/etc. I am thinking this is one of those traits/aspects/characteristics/attributes/etc., specifically, chemically, dexmethylphenidate (a.k.a. brandname of the biggest AND MOST HYPOCRITICAL/ARROGANT/CONDESCENDING drug dealers in the country THE U.S. MEDICAL AND LEGAL SYSTEMS, COMBINED. After all, with one singularly, you'd have the arrogance and condescension, and sure, it'd be riddle with hypocrisy, though not as OBVIOUSLY as is so when comparing legal and medical concerns of the government.
Damn, I need a fucking cigarette and AT LEAST ONE MORE LINE, though 30mg remain, for my oral dose, and 20mg momentarily.... I wonder if I'll even take an oral dose at all. Semi-/rather-likely, is the result that I will take 10-20mg orally, or just SNORT ALL THE FUCKING SHIT, THE MOST LIKELY RESULT, and tweak as hard as fuck for AS LONG AS POSSIBLE, attempting to balance the two, failing to do so, and suffering ANOTHER, though hopefully not-as-long-lasting-which-is-quite-probable-considering-my-sleep-deprivation-coupled-with-my-drug-induced-insomnia.

So, in regards to craving my cigarette, Cowboy Killer though I am temporarily stuck with (at least it's one of the highest in nicotine and tar content, good to get the OH-SO-STIMULATING-BABY-GIRLLLLLLLLLLLLL, "effects", minimal and NON-NOTICEABLE though they are, at least when not merely POTENTIATING, other, less-mild, often, though not ALWAYS less-addictive, drugs, I will ATTEMPT to make this paragraph short, at LEAST LEAST LEAST LEAST LEAST IN COMPARISON TO THE OTHERS, i.e., smaller than the smallest reasonable paragraph in this post, which there probably have been many replies to this topic in general, and my past few posts in particular, while I've been typing out this damn near ESSAY, I'D SAY SO MY FUCKING SELF TO BE EXACT/MORE PRECISE/MORE SUBJECTIVE/ANDTHEREFOREINMANYWAYSMORETRUE, but my MAIN point WAS AT SOME POINT IN THIS LONGASS RAMBLING SESSION (soon to be followed by my friend's much-awaited wake-n-bake if I wake him up crushing down that shit and decide to be nice and go ahead and break open another baggy/1-gram-nug of DRO, though I'm not SURE about that, or at least the URGENCY with which I (would normally) say that, as it will POSSIBLY counteract the stimulating effects, though if anything, I personally believe that it will serve to contrast the effects, making them more effective/less effective at the same time/in different aspects/ways. But anyways, my main point, which so far, I've only gotten to express OF, is that I overclarify, usually as a specific result of my MORE OBVIOUS overanalyzation of SOMETIMES SIMPLE THINGS/CONCEPTS WHICH SHOULD JUST BE LEFT THEFUCK ALONE, NOT INTROSPECTED/CONTEMPLATED TOO DEEPLY WHILE MUTHAFUCKING TWEAKING, BUT I DIGRESS ONCE AGAIN, FOR ABOUT THE MILLIONTH TIME IN THIS PROBABLY-TOO-LONG-FOR-A-SINGLE-POST-ONCE-AGAIN post, which has served NO point/purpose/help/assistance. in MAKING THE POINT I WAS ATTEMPTING TO MAKE, other than stating those two basic, intertwined statements.
THAT I OVERCLARIFY, USUALLY/SUSPECTEDLY AS A RESULT OF OVERTHINKING/OVERANALYZING (as arguably originally realized BY ME while listening to Lateralus, by Tool, definitely not on the first/sober listen through). I use too many synonyms/similar-enough-to-be-reasonably-considered-synonymical-words.

So maybe my frontal lobe, or my mind in general (not necessarily brain, but mind)? Even when I'm not contemplating/philosophizing RANDOMASS SHIT, aka I'm not TWEAKING, or I'm on DOWNERS specifically, or some other conditions/lack of specific conditions... I usually at least have fantasies, or what are more commonly referred to as "daydreams", the majority of the excess time I have. Like, I daydream about some of the most varied and RANDOMASFUCK shit. Maybe this is a possible explanation for the OCD/maybe it's OVERDONE/OVERSHOWN/ETC. because I'm on uppers at the moment, probably not the best choice of drug for someone with a case of OCD quite like mine.

Please tell me somebody at least read and has something intelligent to say on PART or PARTS of that, maybe even JUST the significant/relevant one(s) (question/interchangeability with the plurality of the noun "one", seeing as I have no idea/no possible way of knowing, other than READING THROUGH THAT JUMBLING HEAP OF RANDOM ASSORTED HAPHAZARDLY THOUGHTS/IDEAS/CONCEPTS/ETC./QUESTIONS, maybe one or two in there at least, huh?)

tl;dr

Try taking a magnesium supplement half an hour before you roll or get tweaked it will work wonders. Just make sure it's cheleated magnesium or elemental magnesium because if you take magnesium citrate you will get the shits the citrate is a laxative. And also stay away from magnesium oxide it may say elemental magnesium but bioavailability is only 4%.

Holy shit, don't waste all the fun of amps typing out these ass-long posts on totse.

Next time try to write a book rather than posts so long nobody will bother reading them. It's fun to type that much though, isn't it.

I don't think any of that made any sense or had any relevance to this thread... Fair play though, I think someone's having fun! :D

Yeah, I'm not expecting much, maybe for someone to AT LEAST maybe SKIM, hopefully read through SOME/PARTS of it? At least hoped to find in any responses an answer to some of my more sane/relevant/on-topic QUESTIONS and CONCERNS, intensified, as my "disorder" was itself, by the drug itself, though I optimistically view/ed these effects as positive in nature, making the best of a possibly negative thing, turning it into large amounts of thought, SOME points of which were actually meaningful in some significant way, as I became much more introspective. I find that I type fluently enough to the point where I can basically think with my fingers now, so I was just spewing out any randomass thought, positive OR negative, that popped into my head. When I actually vocalize my thoughts, I seem to be more articulate and am better at properly conveying the ideas I am attempting to get across, and any feelings/concepts I am attempting to invoke/evoke (which word is more appropriate), utilizing a deft manipulation of the English language, which is what makes me, generally, and when writing about certain subjects, a good writer, though you may have a hard time believing that after my first GOOD tweak in a longassssss time, years even if you don't count meth bombs. Like, in vocal speech, I seem to better CHOOSE a specific synonym out of a long mental list thanks to my educated/extensive vocabulary, and combined with my infallible confidence while tweaking, and introspective nature, some of the randomass endless spew of babble I spit out ends up being somewhat interesting, or at times, even fascinating, instead of how, when tweaking, at least, writing it down, or more specifically, as was shown very proudly and without shame today, I seem to list various similar-meaning/sounding words/synonyms even, in numerous instances from recollecting merely from the top of my head, without putting much thought into it, and I would hyphenate together what basically converts to a sentence, or what makes a sentence into either a run-on sentence, or at slightly less UNsuccessful intervals, a sentence used where one properly-placed word/use of my vocabulary would have been precise in conveying the exact idea, along with any negative/positive/neutral connotations desired to be implied, and other such subtleties only likely known to a fluent, and/or native speaker of a language, especially as versatile yet in so many simple ways so limiting, as English.

Whereas in a sober state of mind, I seem to convey ideas much better in text.

However, whenever I light up a Newport

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Can you refrain from posting this shit when you are amped up, maybe write it on amps, and edit it when you are sober, cause nobody wants to read all that shit.

I'm chewing the shit out of a pen right now.

I clench my jaw and grind my teeth when I'm sober so doing X or adderall just makes it even worse.

Anyone know a good way to help your muscles relax the day after rollin or tweakin.

Beef jerky my friend. For once you'll be able to finish that whole strip in record time.

OP, you write like a fag.

I'm not gonna argue that because who cares if you believe me or not, but yeah, I was definitely WAAAAAAAY fucked up and didn't put much thought into those posts, though it seemed at the time like a ton of thoughts at higher speed... It was mostly weird/nonsense tangents and bullshit, looking at it now. I've pretty much come down, probably a while ago, but I smoked weed throughout parts of the day, which helped. I haven't "crashed" yet, though still very sleep-deprived, and insomnia from what I can tell. >_< Bad fucking combination.

Holy shit that was a lot of fucking text, what the fuck?

EDIT: Just glanced at my rant, saw the size, clicked back, lol.

I don't know about you man, but I'd never have the stomach for jerky if I was rollin. All I could think about is how bad I feel about the cow, and I'd want to give it a hug instead of eating it.

Wow, I'm a fag. (saved you guys some of the effort)