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 #1 
Old 2008-07-30, 12:17
absolutecaliber absolutecaliber is offline
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Default My first opioid experience after 1+ years clean...

..."trip report" in a couple hours. About to get my wisdom teeth extracted within the hour under IV sedation (Versed+Fentanyl, most likely).

Note I am no longer the decrepit junkie I used to be, and have since then all but forgotten the warm cloud 9 that opioid use is.

Wish me luck.




And something better than Tylenol 3s.
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Old 2008-07-30, 12:42
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Default Re: My first opioid experience after 1+ years clean...

If your doctor is an ass, then you'll get ibuprofen.
Slightly less than an ass, but still a jerk, codeine (T3's).
If he's super cool, you'll get a script for some percs.

But most likely you'll get vicodin, which is good if you aren't actively using.

Peace.
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Old 2008-07-30, 14:18
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Default Re: My first opioid experience after 1+ years clean...

Your doctors going to know you were an addict when it takes a shit load of painkillers to knock you out.
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Old 2008-07-30, 14:26
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Default Re: My first opioid experience after 1+ years clean...

you know, during my junk years, i always worried about if something happened and i ended up needing legitimate help, that they'd cut it off long before it was enough, or i would simply not go out....


good luck dude, your tolerance is neligble.
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Old 2008-07-30, 14:39
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Default Re: My first opioid experience after 1+ years clean...

What happened to that kid who was like 15 and getting into the hard drugs but seemed to know his shit? Used to post here a lot.
 #6 
Old 2008-07-30, 14:47
absolutecaliber absolutecaliber is offline
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Default Re: My first opioid experience after 1+ years clean...

Quote:
Originally Posted by reject
What happened to that kid who was like 15 and getting into the hard drugs but seemed to know his shit? Used to post here a lot.


That kid, who was 16, went to rehab and learned that there is more to life than chemical "love."

Somebody to change the name of this thread to "absolutecaliber is a fucking tool"

I don't know why, but when they offered to knock me out for the procedure, a little voice inside my head said "dude, just man the fuck up."

- I was concious throughout the whole thing, for four impacted extractions.

Yes, I suffered. Suffered so much he wrote me a script for percocets, which, again listening to that angel (devil?) on my shoulder told me to summarily refuse.

So fuck, I'm a dumbass. But a clean dumbass.

I'm enjoying these Ibuprofen 200s though :)

Moral of the story: absolutecaliber is an idealistic dumbass, but if you can live with the short duration of the post-procedural pain, then by all means do it.


Life's been great without drugs, and I look forward to completely forgetting the feeling of bliss that comes with opioid use.

*awaits flames*
 #7 
Old 2008-07-30, 15:00
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Your medicine cabinet
Default Re: My first opioid experience after 1+ years clean...

You could probably get most hardcore NA members to literally suck your dick off with a story like that.

Congrats, though. I don't really think having the desire to be put out for a tooth extraction has anything to do with "manning up", but hey, to each their own. Everyone has different limits to their sobriety and you obviously know yours rather well.
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Old 2008-07-30, 15:06
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Default Re: My first opioid experience after 1+ years clean...

ok well i can put those perc's to use if you dont want them
 #9 
Old 2008-07-30, 17:15
bsquared bsquared is offline
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Default Re: My first opioid experience after 1+ years clean...

1 year... You'll be back

Opiate addiction is a bitch
 #10 
Old 2008-07-30, 17:23
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Your medicine cabinet
Default Re: My first opioid experience after 1+ years clean...

Quote:
Originally Posted by bsquared
1 year... You'll be back

Opiate addiction is a bitch


That doesn't mean that some people still don't get sober on their first try. In my opinion, if AC is already turning down scripts from doctors while being willing to go through physical pain in order to avoid even the remote possibility of getting high, he sounds like he's certainly well on the way to an honest and committed sobriety.
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Old 2008-07-30, 17:28
absolutecaliber absolutecaliber is offline
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Default Re: My first opioid experience after 1+ years clean...

That doesn't mean that some people still don't get sober on their first try. In my opinion, if AC is already turning down scripts from doctors while being willing to go through physical pain in order to avoid even the remote possibility of getting high, he sounds like he's certainly well on the way to an honest and committed sobriety.

Thanks for the kind words, PoC.

And I may add, I smoked weed daily this summer but took a break about mid-June for tolerance/college. Of course, as any respectable TOTSE member will be quick to point out, marijuana is hardly a drug.

So my 18th birthday, (tomorrow), will probably end up with me being sober LOL. Seeing as I can't drink because of the clotting, can't smoke for the same reason (well I could chance a grav bong, but again I'm on a break), and am in general not going to be in the mood to do so this *may* be a BLTC first in a while.
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Old 2008-07-30, 17:35
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Default Re: My first opioid experience after 1+ years clean...

That kid, who was 16, went to rehab and learned that there is more to life than chemical "love."

Somebody to change the name of this thread to "absolutecaliber is a fucking tool"

I don't know why, but when they offered to knock me out for the procedure, a little voice inside my head said "dude, just man the fuck up."

- I was concious throughout the whole thing, for four impacted extractions.

Yes, I suffered. Suffered so much he wrote me a script for percocets, which, again listening to that angel (devil?) on my shoulder told me to summarily refuse.

So fuck, I'm a dumbass. But a clean dumbass.

I'm enjoying these Ibuprofen 200s though :)

Moral of the story: absolutecaliber is an idealistic dumbass, but if you can live with the short duration of the post-procedural pain, then by all means do it.


Life's been great without drugs, and I look forward to completely forgetting the feeling of bliss that comes with opioid use.

*awaits flames*

I respect you for that. :)
 #13 
Old 2008-07-30, 17:43
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Your medicine cabinet
Default Re: My first opioid experience after 1+ years clean...

Thanks for the kind words, PoC.

No problem man. And happy birthday-- I always seem to forget that you're younger than me for some reason.

Likely a dumb question, but why can't you drink (if you wanted to) tomorrow? My logic tells me it's because alcohol thins the blood and that's how the clotting would fuck up but correct me if I'm wrong.
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Old 2008-07-30, 17:48
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Default Re: My first opioid experience after 1+ years clean...

Quote:
Originally Posted by bsquared
1 year... You'll be back

Opiate addiction is a bitch


I'd say he's probably going to do pretty well if he turned down not only the script, but the sedation as well.

Good luck though OP, you made a responsible decision which is rare to see around here.
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Old 2008-07-30, 18:36
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Default Re: My first opioid experience after 1+ years clean...

That kid, who was 16, went to rehab and learned that there is more to life than chemical "love."

Somebody to change the name of this thread to "absolutecaliber is a fucking tool"

I don't know why, but when they offered to knock me out for the procedure, a little voice inside my head said "dude, just man the fuck up."

- I was concious throughout the whole thing, for four impacted extractions.

Yes, I suffered. Suffered so much he wrote me a script for percocets, which, again listening to that angel (devil?) on my shoulder told me to summarily refuse.

So fuck, I'm a dumbass. But a clean dumbass.

I'm enjoying these Ibuprofen 200s though :)

Moral of the story: absolutecaliber is an idealistic dumbass, but if you can live with the short duration of the post-procedural pain, then by all means do it.


Life's been great without drugs, and I look forward to completely forgetting the feeling of bliss that comes with opioid use.

*awaits flames*

WTF is the point of this thread damnit I wanted to hear you about you becoming a junkie again, not some damn clean-goody-goody story damnit


.... :(

I'm going to sneak over to yr house and IV heroin into you while you sleep, then IV some coke to wake yr ass up
 #16 
Old 2008-07-30, 18:43
bsquared bsquared is offline
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Default Re: My first opioid experience after 1+ years clean...

I'd say he's probably going to do pretty well if he turned down not only the script, but the sedation as well.

Good luck though OP, you made a responsible decision which is rare to see around here.

Yeah, but I was like that too until I started daydreaming about how great it was being high. Opiates are just a tough addiction. Cigs, booze, pot, those are easy to kick, but opiates have a way of creeping back into my life at least.
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Old 2008-07-30, 19:31
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Default Re: My first opioid experience after 1+ years clean...

Yeah, but I was like that too until I started daydreaming about how great it was being high. Opiates are just a tough addiction. Cigs, booze, pot, those are easy to kick, but opiates have a way of creeping back into my life at least.

I've stopped having wet dreams and I dream mostly of opiates now.
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Old 2008-07-30, 19:32
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Default Re: My first opioid experience after 1+ years clean...

Quote:
Originally Posted by optl
Your doctors going to know you were an addict when it takes a shit load of painkillers to knock you out.


His tolerance will have obviously flatlined
 #19 
Old 2008-07-30, 19:34
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Default Re: My first opioid experience after 1+ years clean...

Shut your junkie mouth up abso
 #20 
Old 2008-07-30, 19:43
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Default Re: My first opioid experience after 1+ years clean...

Quote:
Originally Posted by h0ppinlowrider
Shut your junkie mouth up abso



How far are you from Gainesville?


And fucking awesome job, absolute. That's the shit right there, man.
 #21 
Old 2008-07-30, 19:46
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Brooksville, Fla
Default Re: My first opioid experience after 1+ years clean...

How far are you from Gainesville?


And fucking awesome job, absolute. That's the shit right there, man.

Quite far too lazy to google my town next to my name
 #22 
Old 2008-07-30, 20:11
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Default Re: My first opioid experience after 1+ years clean...

WTF is the point of this thread damnit I wanted to hear you about you becoming a junkie again, not some damn clean-goody-goody story damnit


.... :(

I'm going to sneak over to yr house and IV heroin into you while you sleep, then IV some coke to wake yr ass up

Thats what i was hoping for, oh well, at least i get to do some dilaudid tonight. ::p - :) - :D - Cool
 #23 
Old 2008-07-30, 20:19
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Default Re: My first opioid experience after 1+ years clean...

Thats what i was hoping for, oh well, at least i get to do some dilaudid tonight. ::p - :) - :D - Cool

:(

I've got nothing, and almost all of my hook ups are going clean or are in jail.

:(
 #24 
Old 2008-07-30, 20:34
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Default Re: My first opioid experience after 1+ years clean...

I remember, eprime!

Is the OP eprime? If not, what happened to him?
 #25 
Old 2008-07-30, 21:16
absolutecaliber absolutecaliber is offline
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Default Re: My first opioid experience after 1+ years clean...

Likely a dumb question, but why can't you drink (if you wanted to) tomorrow? My logic tells me it's because alcohol thins the blood and that's how the clotting would fuck up but correct me if I'm wrong.

Exactly, it would fuck with the clots over each of my extraction sites. The problem isn't once it's in my blood, it's actually getting there that would dissolve the clots and possibly even lead to dry-socket.

LOL ibupofen actually works, hard to believe. Took the recommended 800mg on a full stomach, and my cheeks are hardly swollen and the pain has significantly abated.

I remember, eprime!

Is the OP eprime? If not, what happened to him?

Nope, not eprime. Still the ole' Dr. Caliber on call :D

Shit I remember when he joined this board... he was what... thirteen? And at fourteen he was snorting meth.

Crazy shit.
 #26 
Old 2008-07-30, 21:18
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Default Re: My first opioid experience after 1+ years clean...

Nope, not eprime. Still the ole' Dr. Caliber on call :D

Shit I remember when he joined this board... he was what... thirteen? And at fourteen he was snorting meth.

Crazy shit.

Haha yea, he hasn't posted since like November of last year, the dudes probably in some crazy shit or something.

Man BLTC was much better when there were characters like him around.
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Old 2008-07-30, 23:11
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Default Re: My first opioid experience after 1+ years clean...

Quote:
Originally Posted by reject
What happened to that kid who was like 15 and getting into the hard drugs but seemed to know his shit? Used to post here a lot.


I think you are thinking of eprime. I havn't seen him around in a long time.
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Old 2008-07-30, 23:26
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Default Re: My first opioid experience after 1+ years clean...

I think you are thinking of eprime. I havn't seen him around in a long time.

I remember when he faked his own death, back when that was cool.
 #29 
Old 2008-07-30, 23:32
ilovechronic ilovechronic is offline
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Default Re: My first opioid experience after 1+ years clean...

Quote:
Originally Posted by h0ppinlowrider
Shut your junkie mouth up abso


Haha. You are just jealous because you are a little crackhead/junky and you can't get clean like him.
 #30 
Old 2008-07-31, 00:35
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Maricopa Arizona
Default Re: My first opioid experience after 1+ years clean...

LOL ibupofen actually works, hard to believe. Took the recommended 800mg on a full stomach, and my cheeks are hardly swollen and the pain has significantly abated.

Ibuprofen is actually a blood thinner as well.
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Old 2008-07-31, 02:14
absolutecaliber absolutecaliber is offline
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Default Re: My first opioid experience after 1+ years clean...

Ibuprofen is actually a blood thinner as well.

Fucking quack of a dentist recommended me this shit!

Are you sure you weren't confusing ibuprofen with aspirin though?
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Old 2008-07-31, 04:25
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Default Re: My first opioid experience after 1+ years clean...

Man I can't believe you turned em down.

But yea, probably the wisest choice.

Although I have no fucking idea why you didn't let them knock you the fuck out. I wouldn't have gone that far.
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Old 2008-07-31, 08:12
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Maricopa Arizona
Default Re: My first opioid experience after 1+ years clean...

Fucking quack of a dentist recommended me this shit!

Are you sure you weren't confusing ibuprofen with aspirin though?


I'm sure. Ibuprofen is a blood thinner.
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Old 2008-07-31, 08:22
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Default Re: My first opioid experience after 1+ years clean...

That kid, who was 16, went to rehab and learned that there is more to life than chemical "love."

Somebody to change the name of this thread to "absolutecaliber is a fucking tool"

I don't know why, but when they offered to knock me out for the procedure, a little voice inside my head said "dude, just man the fuck up."

- I was concious throughout the whole thing, for four impacted extractions.

Yes, I suffered. Suffered so much he wrote me a script for percocets, which, again listening to that angel (devil?) on my shoulder told me to summarily refuse.

So fuck, I'm a dumbass. But a clean dumbass.

I'm enjoying these Ibuprofen 200s though :)

Moral of the story: absolutecaliber is an idealistic dumbass, but if you can live with the short duration of the post-procedural pain, then by all means do it.


Life's been great without drugs, and I look forward to completely forgetting the feeling of bliss that comes with opioid use.

*awaits flames*


That's awesome man. You really are devoted to staying clean! It really takes a set of balls (or tits) to go through all of that agony, just to avoid potential future agony that would bite you in the ass even more.
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Old 2008-07-31, 09:32
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Yeh, it shows a lot of determination and willpower that you refused, obviously, though if you were too nervous to do so and wanted the sedation/analgesic affects, you could've/should've just explained to your doctor honestly the situation to inform him/her of your possible tolerance, slight/non-existent though it would be at this time, and your psychological dependence and former physical addiction. I'm sure he would've either not used it, or used the proper amount to knock you out without really letting you feel the high consciously.
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Old 2008-07-31, 16:58
absolutecaliber absolutecaliber is offline
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^Nah, having grown up with my father as a doc it's sad that they tend to label you as "high-risk" in a cute little side not on your medical record, and at that point you're fucked. Also, the physiological tolerance would have flat-lined long before my 1 year mark. Any tolerance past that mark would be purely psychological, and being of that nature would be easier to suppress and control.

Could have, should have, would have, it's all good. Day 2 is without pain for the most part, nothing an Motrin 800 couldn't solve.
Really it's the inflammation that's a killer, but that's what NSAIDs are good for, right?
 #37 
Old 2008-07-31, 17:53
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Your medicine cabinet
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^Nah, having grown up with my father as a doc it's sad that they tend to label you as "high-risk" in a cute little side not on your medical record, and at that point you're fucked.

HIPPAA laws now make this old practice not only useless but illegal as well.
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Old 2008-07-31, 18:16
absolutecaliber absolutecaliber is offline
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Default Re: My first opioid experience after 1+ years clean...

HIPPAA laws now make this old practice not only useless but illegal as well.

Sadly, HIPPAA laws are loosely-interpreted regarding doctor-doctor interactions (especially involving patient transfers) where they deem the patient's history to be medically relevant.

Substance abuse being one of those things they consider relevant. :(
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Old 2008-08-02, 06:45
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Default Re: My first opioid experience after 1+ years clean...

Quote:
Originally Posted by The Doc
If your doctor is an ass, then you'll get ibuprofen.
Slightly less than an ass, but still a jerk, codeine (T3's).
If he's super cool, you'll get a script for some percs.

But most likely you'll get vicodin, which is good if you aren't actively using.

Peace.


My doctor who took out my wisdom teeth was somewhat of an arrogant bastard but he gave me percs and the guy that was in before me got oxycontin for whatever oral surgery he had done.
 
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