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Old 2008-07-29, 22:13
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Default Are these actually the ingrediants of meth?

http://www.lynnpolice.org/ingredients_of_meth.htm

if so it would be easy to make them
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Old 2008-07-29, 22:19
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Default Re: Are these actually the ingrediants of meth?

Yeah. Actually, with half a brain, you could figure out how to do it simply from the information they give you.
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Old 2008-07-29, 22:20
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yeah, i'm pretty sure that's right.
and that commentary really pisses me off. i'm sure you have to actually extract things from those products, and you're not actually putting all of it in your body like they make it seem.
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Old 2008-07-29, 22:23
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Default Re: Are these actually the ingrediants of meth?

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yeah, i'm pretty sure that's right.
and that commentary really pisses me off. i'm sure you have to actually extract things from those products, and you're not actually putting all of it in your body like they make it seem.
With the average intelligence level of the meth cooks I've seen, I'd say a good bit of a few of those DO get into your body.
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Old 2008-07-29, 22:35
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Default Re: Are these actually the ingrediants of meth?

you need ether to make meth? how the fuck do rednecks get that shit?
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Old 2008-07-29, 22:41
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Default Re: Are these actually the ingrediants of meth?

http://www.lynnpolice.org/methamphetamines.htm

read the head line of that.

good advice.
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Old 2008-07-29, 22:48
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Default Re: Are these actually the ingrediants of meth?

I love how they show a picture of Zippo fuel and the caption is "Butane"



What a fucking joke...

They can't even get that shit right.

I don't use meth or necessarily give a fuck about its usage, but this shit is just amusing.

I love how they make it seem like those are the "Ingredients" as in, they are APART of the compound.

Still funny nonetheless.
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Old 2008-07-29, 23:09
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Default Re: Are these actually the ingrediants of meth?

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http://www.lynnpolice.org/ingredients_of_meth.htm

if so it would be easy to make them
anhydrous ammonia.... yea thats not something i would feel comfortable fucking with...

doesnt take much to fill up a room... if memory serves its explosive... and if your in a room filled with ammonia its probably going to start burning your skin....
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Old 2008-07-29, 23:11
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anhydrous ammonia.... yea thats not something i would feel comfortable fucking with...

doesnt take much to fill up a room... if memory serves its explosive... and if your in a room filled with ammonia its probably going to start burning your skin....
It's called ventilation. I don't know of a drug production (except mushrooms) where you're not gonna have some kind of ventilation issues. You'd be amazed what a fan in a window can do.
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Old 2008-07-29, 23:32
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Really the only hard thing to get in that list is Ephedrine.
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Old 2008-07-29, 23:35
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^^^you have an easy time getting ether?
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Old 2008-07-29, 23:57
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^^^you have an easy time getting ether?


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Old 2008-07-29, 23:59
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This highly corrosive liquid is used to remove rust and iron-oxide from steel, leather processing, household cleaning and to produce organic compounds such as PVC pipe

How do you make a PVC pipe with HCL?
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Old 2008-07-30, 00:45
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^^^you have an easy time getting ether?


It's called starting fluid at wall mart :D
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Old 2008-07-30, 00:56
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Default Re: Are these actually the ingrediants of meth?

good luck getting enough pseudo-ephedrine for it to be worthwhile to make. unles you're not a complete noob, which you are.
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Old 2008-07-30, 01:00
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It's called starting fluid at wall mart :D

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Old 2008-07-30, 01:19
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Default Re: Are these actually the ingrediants of meth?

It's called starting fluid at wall mart :D

Dude, the "water extraction" doesn't work for shit. That ether isn't clean enough to huff, much less do extractions with.
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Old 2008-07-30, 04:59
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Default Re: Are these actually the ingrediants of meth?

They are most certainly not ingredients. They are reagents and solvents for a couple typical methamphetamine syntheses working through the reduction of pseudoephedrine.

Ingredients are components of mixtures, and do not undergo chemical changes to form an entirely new chemical structure/formula.
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Old 2008-07-30, 05:04
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anhydrous ammonia.... yea thats not something i would feel comfortable fucking with...

I was in jail with a cook who got one drop of anhydrous on his hand and it literally ate nearly the whole way through the other side.
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Old 2008-07-30, 05:06
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Default Re: Are these actually the ingrediants of meth?

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Really the only hard thing to get in that list is Ephedrine.

Neither the iodine nor the RD is easy to get. You need a LOT of matches to get enough RP and you can't just use the iodine you get in a drug store.
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Old 2008-07-30, 05:22
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Default Re: Are these actually the ingrediants of meth?

Dude, the "water extraction" doesn't work for shit. That ether isn't clean enough to huff, much less do extractions with.

so how the fuck do they get ether?
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Old 2008-07-30, 05:38
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Default Re: Are these actually the ingrediants of meth?

Fuck I hate these threads.
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Old 2008-07-30, 06:48
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Default Re: Are these actually the ingrediants of meth?

Neither the iodine nor the RD is easy to get. You need a LOT of matches to get enough RP and you can't just use the iodine you get in a drug store.

Anybody seriously considering making meth would probably already have the RP lined up, maybe making it themselves through a reaction? and anybody having trouble with iodine would be served well if they were to start hanging out with some artsier folks... it definitely is available OTC here and I don't even fuck with meth.

Then again anybody who even knows what the hell I'm talking about is probably already tweaking off the meth they made.
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Old 2008-07-30, 07:02
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Default Re: Are these actually the ingrediants of meth?

Anybody seriously considering making meth would probably already have the RP lined up, maybe making it themselves through a reaction? and anybody having trouble with iodine would be served well if they were to start hanging out with some artsier folks... it definitely is available OTC here and I don't even fuck with meth.

Then again anybody who even knows what the hell I'm talking about is probably already tweaking off the meth they made.


I lol'd.
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Old 2008-07-30, 07:07
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I lol'd.

IM BEING SRS FAGGOT

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Old 2008-07-30, 07:08
36fuckin5 36fuckin5 is offline
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Default Re: Are these actually the ingrediants of meth?

so how the fuck do they get ether?

Magick.

No, seriously, it's not that hard. I don't have access to it, but I haven't looked, either. The one time I did come across pure ether, it was because one of my friends had broken into an old high school (that used to be a WWII hospital) and stole a couple cases.

You could also distill it from starter fluid, but if you didn't already know that, you should not be trying to distill ether. Hell, I know it and I wouldn't be in the same house with a still that's running ether.
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Old 2008-07-30, 07:20
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Default Re: Are these actually the ingrediants of meth?

Magick.

No, seriously, it's not that hard. I don't have access to it, but I haven't looked, either. The one time I did come across pure ether, it was because one of my friends had broken into an old high school (that used to be a WWII hospital) and stole a couple cases.

You could also distill it from starter fluid, but if you didn't already know that, you should not be trying to distill ether. Hell, I know it and I wouldn't be in the same house with a still that's running ether.
With proper glass, seals, kecks, and a decent hotplate, or hell, even refreshing a hot water bath, it can be not only easy and safe, but REALLY easy, and damn near unfuckupable.


I love watching ether come over in a graham condenser. It's been ages since I've had any though. Hell I love watching anything come over in a graham. Those things are fucking sexy.


Of course to be totally safe and proper, you need to dry it over Li or Na strips or wire, and then add an hydroxide to prevent formation of peroxides, and check it weekly. Keep it in a cold dry dark place, sealed up as fuck. Try not to store it, only make what you know you will need.


But hell, fuck starter fluid to begin with, actually MAKING ether is fucking cake. Fuck I had a great link, but the site is taken down. Damn. Frogfots ether page was fucking great.
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Old 2008-07-30, 10:50
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Default Re: Are these actually the ingrediants of meth?

How is iodine hard to get? Walk into a hospital. When my son was in there, they had iodine setting around everywhere. I stole 4 or 5 a day to sell to meth cooks. And I was never asked a question about it either.
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Old 2008-07-30, 10:57
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Hospitals are a fucking gold mine. I've managed to snag 1600ug of fent one time. Dumbass nurses leaving shit laying out, it was there for hours, and I got bored and just started going around checking all the medications being used, just to ensure everything was being done right, and bam, an extra 1600ug catheter bag that someone forgot to grab up. Why in the fuck they brought TWO of those things is beyond me, the person who was using it, rather, needing it at the time was fucking wasted, and had NO business being on fent in the first place. And on top of that, I was told Nubain would be the drug used for the procedure, which I was fine with, but fent has certain properties that make it dangerous for certain procedures. Several doctors fucked up on that one.


I'd rather not go in to detail because then it would become apparent what the procedure was, and from there an intelligent person could easily figure it out, and who the fuck knows, I may catch a charge. Fuck that.


But man was that shit good for my leg.
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Old 2008-07-30, 11:09
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Default Re: Are these actually the ingrediants of meth?

Dude, the "water extraction" doesn't work for shit. That ether isn't clean enough to huff, much less do extractions with.

the water extraction might not, but a warm water bath distillation takes about 5 minutes for roughly 600mL of very clean ether.
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Old 2008-07-30, 11:10
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Default Re: Are these actually the ingrediants of meth?

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How is iodine hard to get? Walk into a hospital. When my son was in there, they had iodine setting around everywhere. I stole 4 or 5 a day to sell to meth cooks. And I was never asked a question about it either.


Spider stole five iodines.

And that's terrible.
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