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| Better Living Through Chemistry Discussions of any and all sorts of mind-warping chemicals, pills, booze, mind machines, trippy stuff, current street prices, importing pharmaceuticals, smart drugs, nutrients, herbs, and altered states. Please try to keep your conversations "theoretical" in nature, since this is an open conference. |
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#1
 2008-07-29, 02:44
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TrainWrecked425 
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Dmt
so reggae rising is going on I guess anyone hear of it its the reggae fest that replaced reggae on the river anyway what should I expect to pay for dmt I want like a couple grams also would I be better off just ordering something with it in it and performing an extraction myself anyway Ive never done dmt but I have done
Acid
shrooms
salvia
datura
LSA
and a lot of mdma but thats not a psychadelic
when doing dmt what should I expect I don't want to have a bad trip or anything I handled the above psychoactives alright would I be able to handle dmt?
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#2
 2008-07-29, 02:51
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Re: Dmt
Im not sure how much a gram will cost ya, but a hit of DMT in my area is 50 dallers, i don't even waste the money. You should take the time and extract your own, i plan to eventually go down this route.
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#3
 2008-07-29, 02:55
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Re: Dmt
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Originally Posted by hallucinogenic Substance
Im not sure how much a gram will cost ya, but a hit of DMT in my area is 50 dallers, i don't even waste the money. You should take the time and extract your own, i plan to eventually go down this route.
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damn dude u in the us or what? thats so expensive id never pay that. but I plan to order something to do the extraction know of any sites?
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#4
 2008-07-29, 03:02
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Re: Dmt
Suppliers: http://www.dmt-nexus.com/forum/Default.aspx?g=posts&t=896
^ Excellent forum, btw; anything dmt-related is there for the viewing.
Don't buy at festivals; it's rarely worth it even if you can find it there. DMT is rare as fuck anyway. I'd suggest going to the festival and if the price doesn't work out (if it's not cheaper than extracting it yourself; check your sources and calculate), then you can extract it.
If you've tried most psychs you'll be fine with DMT; just don't be sure to have a sitter and make sure you don't have any 5-meo-dmt in your mix (if you extract it from anything that's not MHRB, you run that risk).
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#5
 2008-07-29, 03:21
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Re: Dmt
$50 per hit? So like $1 per mg? That's fucking outrageous!
The standard price I've seen for DMT is $20 for 100 mg or about $160-175 per gram, by the single gram. When you buy it, ask the people if they freeze precipitated or evaporated it. If they freeze precipitated, take it. It'll be good shit. If they evaporated, ask if they did a recrystallization. If they just evaporated it and then scraped up the bullshit they got, don't bother with it. It's going to take too much to get you where you need to be. Also, you want white or pale yellow DMT. The darker shit is worthless.
Extracting it yourself is much cheaper (as with all drugs, and all things in general) and you know exactly what you have and what went into it. I also recommend DMT-Nexus for all your extraction questions.
Don't buy at festivals; it's rarely worth it even if you can find it there. DMT is rare as fuck anyway. I'd suggest going to the festival and if the price doesn't work out (if it's not cheaper than extracting it yourself; check your sources and calculate), then you can extract it.
Actually, from what I've seen, it's not THAT much more expensive just to buy it. At $200 per gram, using the Marsofold tek, I make maybe $50 per gram in profit. High-quality bark isn't cheap at all. No matter where you buy it, though, extracting is ALWAYS going to be cheaper. It's gonna take a good bit of your time, though.
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#6
 2008-07-29, 05:51
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Re: Dmt
DMT is very popular in the scene I'm in, and given that my state has vast forests of DMT-bearing trees and shrubs, the big market tends to be vials of the dried, shredded rootbark; about $50/g which is enough for two or three decent hits, or one very decent breakthrough mind-bender. Crystal is available but tends to be rare, as the market is dominated by hippies with little to no chemical knowledge whatsoever.
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#7
 2008-07-29, 05:54
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Re: Dmt
So wait, you actually smoke the MHRB? That works?
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#8
 2008-07-29, 09:51
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FullMetalJacket 
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Re: Dmt
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Originally Posted by 36fuckin5
So wait, you actually smoke the MHRB? That works?
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We use a species of acacia; but as far as I can tell, you could just smoke the MHRB as well. I'd check the concentrations, though. As it stands; packing a cone of acacia bark is pretty mind-bending, but if you vaporise it then you're going to get the full effects - So smoking it will and won't work. it'll work; but not as well as if you vaporised it, and not as well as if you vaporised crystals.
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#9
 2008-07-29, 10:57
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Re: Dmt
I've seen DMT go around here for £50-100 a gram. If you're an idiot that will sound expensive, if you're not you'll realise that 60 mg is a good hit.
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#10
 2008-07-29, 16:52
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AlCaTrAz 
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Re: Dmt
Extractionnnnnnnnn
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#11
 2008-07-30, 04:32
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Re: Dmt
No you can't smoke MHRB directly; it doesn't have nearly enough DMT in it.
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#12
 2008-07-30, 05:32
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Re: Dmt
Fuck freeze precip method. All these teks and bullshit, and pull MORE than DMT. DMT is not yellow. Yellow crystals indicate an impurity, one of several other minor alkaloids, several of which are said to have MAOI properties, and are active on their own.
hint: go read the latest DEA microgram biannual bulletin for info on DMT extraction. It is much much easier to get a purer product without even fucking with an alkaline substance such as NaOH.
acetic acid extraction and methanol recrystallization for the motherfucking WIN.
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#13
 2008-07-30, 06:54
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36fuckin5 
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Re: Dmt
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Originally Posted by stupid noob
Fuck freeze precip method. All these teks and bullshit, and pull MORE than DMT. DMT is not yellow. Yellow crystals indicate an impurity, one of several other minor alkaloids, several of which are said to have MAOI properties, and are active on their own.
hint: go read the latest DEA microgram biannual bulletin for info on DMT extraction. It is much much easier to get a purer product without even fucking with an alkaline substance such as NaOH.
acetic acid extraction and methanol recrystallization for the motherfucking WIN.
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Care to elaborate on this a little more? I don't expect to be spoon-fed, but what are the basic steps?
Edit: I had a pothead moment. So would it just be to grind up the bark, use vinegar (or acetic acid distilled from vinegar?) for a polar extraction, then pull with methanol, evap down to very little and throw it in the freezer? You know way better than I do, but that doesn't seem right.
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#14
 2008-07-30, 07:15
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Re: Dmt
4 j00
http://www.usdoj.gov/dea/programs/forensicsci/microgram/journal_v5_num14/pg6.html
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#15
 2008-07-30, 07:32
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36fuckin5 
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Re: Dmt
4 j00
http://www.usdoj.gov/dea/programs/forensicsci/microgram/journal_v5_num14/pg6.html
Fucking sweet. Thanks.
See, guys, SN isn't a dick if you just try (or even think) a little yourself.
I gotta make a post in LT now to make sure I've got this right.
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#16
 2008-07-30, 07:36
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Re: Dmt
Fucking sweet. Thanks.
See, guys, SN isn't a dick if you just try (or even think) a little yourself.
Yeah, I'm still a dick.
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#17
 2008-07-30, 08:25
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FullMetalJacket 
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Re: Dmt
Oh man, I hadn't caught up to that one yet. Fucking excellent.
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#18
 2008-07-30, 09:45
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Re: Dmt
dmt i want like a couple grams
bullshit alert bullshit alert!!!!
This thread is bullshit!!
WTF are you gonna do with a couple grams of dimitri, boy?
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#19
 2008-07-30, 17:06
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Re: Dmt
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Originally Posted by stupid noob
Fuck freeze precip method. All these teks and bullshit, and pull MORE than DMT. DMT is not yellow. Yellow crystals indicate an impurity, one of several other minor alkaloids, several of which are said to have MAOI properties, and are active on their own.
hint: go read the latest DEA microgram biannual bulletin for info on DMT extraction. It is much much easier to get a purer product without even fucking with an alkaline substance such as NaOH.
acetic acid extraction and methanol recrystallization for the motherfucking WIN.
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Acetic Acid Extraction: The root bark was cut into small pieces then ground in a blender to produce a very fine powder. A 3% acetic acid solution was added to the powder, and the resulting suspension was stirred for approximately two hours. The solution was filtered and transferred to a separatory funnel, made basic with sodium hydroxide, and then extracted with methylene chloride. The methylene chloride solution was isolated, and the aqueous later was re-extracted with a second volume of methylene chloride. The combined extracts were dried over magnesium sulfate, filtered, and evaporated to give a crystalline material.
stupid noob being a dumbass again? I rather enjoy his thinking himself smart, always brightens my day.
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#20
 2008-07-30, 20:19
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Re: Dmt
If you had read the entire thing, it CAN be done without NaOH using methanol, but for the sake of cleanliness, one can use the acetic acid method, and then recrystallize from methanol.
Your reading comprehension sucks ass.
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#21
 2008-07-30, 22:40
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cr0w 
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Re: Dmt
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Originally Posted by stupid noob
If you had read the entire thing, it CAN be done without NaOH using methanol, but for the sake of cleanliness, one can use the acetic acid method, and then recrystallize from methanol.
Your reading comprehension sucks ass.
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The methanol one is hardly viable for the average totse kid.
Using (I'm sure) reagent or similar grade methanol heated to 60C the DEA chemists in a legit lab got an impure product.
Nothing more really needs to be said, 'cept stupid noob doesn't know when he's wrong, or even what he's talking about ~95% of the time.
Have a nice day.
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