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Old 2008-07-28, 13:09
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Default Bullshit "Deep" Thought Thread

Post some ideas that you or your friends have come up with that you thought or they thought were sooooo deep at the time but were completely fucktarded.

We were toking at my cabin once, sitting around the campfire listening to voices in the frogs croaking on the lake. My friend decided that the lake remembers EVERYTHING and it plays back the sounds of the day backwards at night. Then we heard this bitch singing spookily, like the sirens almost in "O Brother Where Art Thou" but more ghostly.

Another time me and another friend were on oxy for the first time, laying on my carpet with music in the dark. And suddenly my usually annoying ass cat became really comforting and interesting. We decided that my cat is always in this state of mind, therefore we get along with it now.
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Old 2008-07-28, 13:15
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"Everything is going to be ok".

I was sort of having a bad trip on shrooms, and this came to me, and it instantly put me into a good trip, and the best mood ever, as I realised that everything was going to be ok. Like, literally everything. My whole life, my whole career etc are going to turn out ok, and to this day it still comforts me deeply and I'm far less worried and anxious about the future.
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Old 2008-07-28, 14:01
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The deep thoughts I have aren't bullshit, sorry.

Anyway, good luck in life.
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Old 2008-07-28, 14:05
Internet-Weed-Dude Internet-Weed-Dude is offline
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there is no free will. everything is set and could be predicted if our minds could comprehend everything that's going on at once.
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Old 2008-07-28, 14:24
Private Rodent Private Rodent is offline
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"Everything is going to be ok".

I was sort of having a bad trip on shrooms, and this came to me, and it instantly put me into a good trip, and the best mood ever, as I realised that everything was going to be ok. Like, literally everything. My whole life, my whole career etc are going to turn out ok, and to this day it still comforts me deeply and I'm far less worried and anxious about the future.


What's dumb about that?
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Old 2008-07-28, 14:25
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What's dumb about that?

Nothing, it's just a deep thought, I was ignoring the "bullshit" part of the thread title :)
 #7 
Old 2008-07-28, 15:04
consciouscowboy consciouscowboy is offline
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Please don't make threads like this.

Thanks.
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Old 2008-07-28, 15:07
WonkierBubble WonkierBubble is offline
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"Musicians audition to their audiences through their music."

"Mushrooms and acid can be used to lengthen the lifetime by altering the perception of time." << I like that one :D
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Old 2008-07-28, 16:20
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This is all I do with my life.
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Old 2008-07-28, 17:03
SquishFace SquishFace is offline
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Last night I got fairly high and figured out why we exist. The universe will eventually collapse on itself or be destroyed somehow right? Well it created us and all the other life and earth, and whatever else is out there, so that we could evolve and become smart enough to find out how to keep the universe from dieing.
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Old 2008-07-28, 17:08
Private Rodent Private Rodent is offline
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Originally Posted by SquishFace
Last night I got fairly high and figured out why we exist. The universe will eventually collapse on itself or be destroyed somehow right? Well it created us and all the other life and earth, and whatever else is out there, so that we could evolve and become smart enough to find out how to keep the universe from dieing.


That's a pretty good one.
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Old 2008-07-30, 03:35
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Originally Posted by Internet-Weed-Dude
there is no free will. everything is set and could be predicted if our minds could comprehend everything that's going on at once.


sounds like aldous huxley and his idea of a 'reducing valve' he mentioned in his essay the doors of perception.
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Old 2008-07-30, 03:45
xank xank is offline
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Everyone could see colors completely different there's no way of knowing, what you see as red and have been told is red all of your life could be your green through someone else's eyes.
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Old 2008-07-30, 03:51
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Well it created us and all the other life and earth, and whatever else is out there, so that we could evolve and become smart enough to find out how to keep the universe from dieing.

I must say, we're doing a mighty fine job.
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Old 2008-07-30, 04:11
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Everyone could see colors completely different there's no way of knowing, what you see as red and have been told is red all of your life could be your green through someone else's eyes.


Haha that's some bullshit lol.

Man, I've had so many of those that I think of then remember one fact which makes it completely false.

Like: "Man, dogs hate their captors! We prevent them from having fun outdoors in open fields, blah blah blah! We basically imprison dogs!" Then I went out to smoke a cigarette ad my dog was there wagging her tail and jumped up to see me.

Alot about religion though, I've deemed false when I saw how plain life is when high. I felt truly alone and knew.. No one's out there. How could people be so dumb, I thought. Then I came up with something about humans needing to be delusional or insane in some way, and that there is no great plan, and that every philosopher in the history of time has basically WASTED their time because they just basically made shit up
which isn't natural.



Oh, then I thought about how vast the universe is, and how our thought process could be COMPLETELY primitive/different therefore when we study about aliens we can't even comprehend what they might be able to do, what they look like or how they advanced. Maybe they never even thought of building a space ship, and are currently working on some sort of.. ?? Maybe they don't even have tools, just each other and very smart minds. Maybe not even minds? It was a tough concept to picture something that DOES NOT EXIST on this earth in any way. Real mind fuck when I was high, I really had to stop it there for a second.

Another thought:

Cheetahs are fast runners but not intelligent, dogs have excellent hearing but are not intelligent, etc etc..

Humans are just average at everything. We really are animals with inflated egos. It was weird to think of, me in the Animal Kingdom!
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Old 2008-07-30, 04:20
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The search for the answer to the biggest of all questions, "why were we created", is all in futile, the answer is infinite and what lies beyond, the human mind can not understand nor accept this information. We are arrogant and think we could even begin to understand such questions, evolution will never catch up to this information. We are something, but are hardly a spec in the big scheme of things.
You are as significant as how far you can think.
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Old 2008-07-30, 04:21
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on 7 grams of mushrooms realizing that the human race is just another one of mother earths experments, and that soon enough we will be no more.
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Old 2008-07-30, 04:50
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The search for the answer to the biggest of all questions, "why were we created", is all in futile, the answer is infinite and what lies beyond, the human mind can not understand nor accept this information. We are arrogant and think we could even begin to understand such questions, evolution will never catch up to this information. We are something, but are hardly a spec in the big scheme of things.
You are as significant as how far you can think.


Ah, I usually support that idea too, but I think we have come pretty far in understanding our universe. Pretty far for animals anyway. As far as dying, the way I see it, you shouldn't be scared of being alone or whatever when you die, you shouldn't be scared of dying for any reason other than your own ego, because, whatever happens after you die (if anything) doesn't use the same ruleset as life and also, you won't have the same needs. Who needs friends or money when you're a fucking piece of moss or energy in another dimension?

As far as high thoughts...

The universe is expanding therefore going reverse in time, it all started from some point. That's part of the basis for the big bang theory. Wherever it was BEFORE it exploded, was EVERYTHING THAT EXISTED IN OUR UNIVERSE IN ONE SPOT. Now that spot may have been huge, but since it was everything, there is no frame of reference, and therefore you could also very easily consider it nothing, or small. There's no way to say how big it is because there would have been nothing to compare it to. Also, the amount of time that the universe existed in this state could not be told because there would be no indications of time taking it's toll whatsoever, even if you could somehow view it.

Then take after that these two facts, it could have been an eternity, it could have been a nanosecond. It was infinitely large, it was nothing. It was all mass and pure energy (because of mass being energy on a subatomic scale). It was everything that ever was, and because of that, it was nothing. It is a black dot against a black background (or nothing against nothing).

In this frame of time (forever/nanosecond) there are infinite chances for some kind of cosmic, quantum fuck up to occur where this giant mass goes unstable and explodes. Right here I'm utilizing quantum physics' theory about how you can't predict where an atom will be 100% of the time, just very very very often. Every once in great long time, it will do something entirely different than what you could have predicted.

That's what happened to the black dot. It fucking exploded.

Billions of years later some moss grew on a rock and here we are talking about this horseshit, giving ourselves headaches.
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Old 2008-07-30, 05:06
Suicide_Mouse Suicide_Mouse is offline
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Last night I got fairly high and figured out why we exist. The universe will eventually collapse on itself or be destroyed somehow right? Well it created us and all the other life and earth, and whatever else is out there, so that we could evolve and become smart enough to find out how to keep the universe from dieing.


http://www.multivax.com/last_question.html
Read this short story.
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Old 2008-07-30, 10:52
xNevboyx xNevboyx is offline
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Everyone could see colors completely different there's no way of knowing, what you see as red and have been told is red all of your life could be your green through someone else's eyes.


I often think about this, even when not high.
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Old 2008-07-30, 12:47
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Our universe (which is finite) might be a subatomic particle of an even bigger universe.

And strangely enough that "bigger universe" might be an exact copy of our "micro universe", with the same people living in it and everything. Basically reality would be one huge fractal. In my eyes that would make alot more sense than the usual "there is nothing beyond our universe" explanation.

Another pointless deep thought I came up with was:

what if humanity ever created a supercomputer that ran a futuristically advanced 3d engine with advanced physics etc, and they would write a "program" for that machine that basically creates a virtual world that has the basic laws of chemistry and physics written in it and nothing else. Then make a script that combines a shitload of energy and mass in a single pea-sized ball, and let it explode. Press the fast forward button several billions of years, while the godlike computing power of the supercomputer renders everything that happens. If our grasp of physics and chemistry is complete and correct, and we entered it into the script correctly, after a bit of searching around in spectator mode through the rendered environment one should run into a planet that has life on it.
So at that point, man basically becomes god, in a weird way.

_______

The (I think) weird thing about these deep thoughts is that I only ever come up with pointless crap like this while I'm NOT on hallucinogens. When I'm in a drunken stupor or blazing, or on some other chemical that makes you "high" in a way without tripping, I really SPIT OUT bulllshit like this constantly, always thinking I've figured out the essence of existence, only to forget about it when hitting bassline or just shrugging it off as pointless and dumb.

On proper 'triple plus' doses of shrooms and acid my thoughts don't function like they're supposed to anyways. The mental insanity sortof overrides my ability to think about pointless shit. I'm so close to the edge of reality I can almost touch it, hold it... My soul is being transconfigured in ways my brain can't comprehend... I feel it, I can taste it!...
Trying to force my brain back to normal in order to have normal trains of thought can actually ruin my trip.
It's like, I'm focusing on some train of thought and suddenly some weird thought will just BLURT out in the middle of it and I'll be all startled and confused. Hence I don't even try to constrain my insanity anymore.
I only philosophy while coming up or down from trips. Usually the coming down part is the only part that produces any useful information.

Then finally, while I'm on opiates I just don't give a shit about thoughts.
 
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