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Old 2008-07-28, 07:22
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Default Oxycotin and Hydrocodone

I took quite a bit of Oxy today. I took about 30mg at 3 in the afternoon, and then at 9 or so I took the other 50. I started to come down, and to boost the high, I took my last 3 5/500's.

I'm sure this is totally noobish, but would the two counter-act the eachother, killing my high? Or wold it boost it?
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Old 2008-07-28, 07:24
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They stack. There are benefits to this.
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Old 2008-07-28, 07:32
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They're both opiates. They'd combine and add to it. It'll keep you from coming down.

If you took Amps with you opiates, I imagine that it would kill the high. Similar to taking those codeine + caffeine pills. Stimulants will fuck with depressants and visa-versa.

Drugs of the same kind, when added will increase the effects.
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Old 2008-07-28, 07:40
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Originally Posted by JustAnotherAsshole
They're both opiates. They'd combine and add to it. It'll keep you from coming down.

If you took Amps with you opiates, I imagine that it would kill the high. Similar to taking those codeine + caffeine pills. Stimulants will fuck with depressants and visa-versa.

Drugs of the same kind, when added will increase the effects.


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Old 2008-07-28, 07:44
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Quote:
Originally Posted by JustAnotherAsshole
They're both opiates. They'd combine and add to it. It'll keep you from coming down.

If you took Amps with you opiates, I imagine that it would kill the high. Similar to taking those codeine + caffeine pills. Stimulants will fuck with depressants and visa-versa.

Drugs of the same kind, when added will increase the effects.


Thanks for the prompt reply you guys. I owe ya one, maybe even two. Don't push it.
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Old 2008-07-28, 07:46
JustAnotherAsshole JustAnotherAsshole is offline
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Thanks for the prompt reply you guys. I owe ya one, maybe even two. Don't push it.

Fuck no you don't. Show your gratitude by scarfing down some more pills.
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Old 2008-07-28, 08:05
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Fuck no you don't. Show your gratitude by scarfing down some more pills.


Haha. You funny fucker.
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Old 2008-07-28, 08:06
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One last thing. I like to snort my Oxy (I dunno why. I just feel like a champ snorting a fat line, I guess) But from what I've read, the bioavlaibility is total shit when compared to taking it orally. How do you normal dose it?


Today I decided I'd snort half and parachute the other half, my reasoning being that I expected a quick high from snorting, and then it lasting longer because of the parachute.

Is that a dumb idea? Should I just parachute the entire thing?
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Old 2008-07-28, 13:01
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You should stop snorting pills....

Then again, you can't reform a born idiot.
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Old 2008-07-28, 14:28
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One last thing. I like to snort my Oxy (I dunno why. I just feel like a champ snorting a fat line, I guess) But from what I've read, the bioavlaibility is total shit when compared to taking it orally. How do you normal dose it?


Today I decided I'd snort half and parachute the other half, my reasoning being that I expected a quick high from snorting, and then it lasting longer because of the parachute.

Is that a dumb idea? Should I just parachute the entire thing?


Just do whatever the hell you feel like.

Really though, you should stick them in your poo hole.
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Old 2008-07-28, 14:48
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They're both opiates. They'd combine and add to it. It'll keep you from coming down.

If you took Amps with you opiates, I imagine that it would kill the high. Similar to taking those codeine + caffeine pills. Stimulants will fuck with depressants and visa-versa.

Drugs of the same kind, when added will increase the effects.


Nah, you're wrong. I took amps with opiates and got so fucked, but of course I love doin speed. So, everyone's different. It could kill the high for someone else, in theory.
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Old 2008-07-28, 15:13
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Originally Posted by JustAnotherAsshole
They're both opiates. They'd combine and add to it. It'll keep you from coming down.

If you took Amps with you opiates, I imagine that it would kill the high. Similar to taking those codeine + caffeine pills. Stimulants will fuck with depressants and visa-versa.

Drugs of the same kind, when added will increase the effects.


LOL? They do NOT combine. Why does every little vicodin popper think this? They won't react badly, but it isn't like drinking a pint of cap with a handful of xannax. It doesn't intensify anything.
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Old 2008-07-28, 15:14
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Stimulants will fuck with depressants and visa-versa.

Drugs of the same kind, when added will increase the effects.

Ever heard of a speedball?
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Old 2008-07-28, 15:57
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Originally Posted by Monso
One last thing. I like to snort my Oxy (I dunno why. I just feel like a champ snorting a fat line, I guess) But from what I've read, the bioavlaibility is total shit when compared to taking it orally. How do you normal dose it?


Today I decided I'd snort half and parachute the other half, my reasoning being that I expected a quick high from snorting, and then it lasting longer because of the parachute.

Is that a dumb idea? Should I just parachute the entire thing?


why the hell is everyone so damn crazy about snorting misc. pills and shit when you can get just as high by eating them (yes i know oxy has a higher bioavaliability when snorted) i mean everyone asks can i snort zannies? k-pins? valium?
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Old 2008-07-28, 16:13
Private Rodent Private Rodent is offline
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why the hell is everyone so damn crazy about snorting misc. pills and shit when you can get just as high by eating them (yes i know oxy has a higher bioavaliability when snorted) i mean everyone asks can i snort zannies? k-pins? valium?

I'm not sure which one's but I think there's a benzo or two that works up the nose. It's just some stupid thought process of most kids that makes them think snorting=stronger.
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Old 2008-07-28, 16:18
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why the hell is everyone so damn crazy about snorting misc. pills and shit when you can get just as high by eating them (yes i know oxy has a higher bioavaliability when snorted) i mean everyone asks can i snort zannies? k-pins? valium?

Actually oxy has a higher bioavailability orally.

and opiates + stims are waaaay fun (either cocaine or amps)

especially opiates + stims + benzos
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Old 2008-07-28, 16:40
JustAnotherAsshole JustAnotherAsshole is offline
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Originally Posted by Monso
One last thing. I like to snort my Oxy (I dunno why. I just feel like a champ snorting a fat line, I guess) But from what I've read, the bioavlaibility is total shit when compared to taking it orally. How do you normal dose it?


Today I decided I'd snort half and parachute the other half, my reasoning being that I expected a quick high from snorting, and then it lasting longer because of the parachute.

Is that a dumb idea? Should I just parachute the entire thing?


Right, we'll cover two things here.

First off, Opiates have better bio availability when taken orally, but they take longer to come on than when snorted. If you've got plenty of pills and have no need to conserve them, sure, go for snorting, but if you've got limited amounts or want to make the most of your opiates, take them orally.
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Also, do some research on how to potentiate your opiates.**
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There are opiates worth snorting, and there are opiates that aren't worth snorting.

A 40mg Oxycontin, for example, would be worth snorting, because it has a good drug to filler ratio.

Something like a 5/500 hydrocodone wouldn't be worth snorting, because it has a shitty ratio, and you'd just be filling your nose with Acetaminophen.

In general, Opiates are the only Pharms that I snort, but I've heard of people snorting Benzos as well.
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Old 2008-07-28, 16:42
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In general, Opiates are the only Pharms that I snort, but I've heard of people snorting Benzos as well.

wrote the book on it yo.
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Old 2008-07-28, 16:47
JustAnotherAsshole JustAnotherAsshole is offline
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wrote the book on it yo.

Meh. I always almost take drugs in the most efficient way. The few time's I've snorted was either before I knew it was less efficient, and when it's somebody Else's drugs and they've already ground it up.

I have to admit, snorting is rather fun, though.
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Old 2008-07-28, 19:42
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The only water-soluble benzo is midazolam (US:Versed,Euro: Dormicum) and it does work good snorted. You can snort other benzos but they last for a lot less time, hence why its much more worth it to take em orally. Once you pop em with a shot or 2 of some hard ethanol you wont feel the need to snort them to make em kick in faster. But you gotta be careful not to overdo the alcohol thing, you could like, die.
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Old 2008-07-28, 21:53
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The only water-soluble benzo is midazolam (US:Versed,Euro: Dormicum) and it does work good snorted. You can snort other benzos but they last for a lot less time, hence why its much more worth it to take em orally. Once you pop em with a shot or 2 of some hard ethanol you wont feel the need to snort them to make em kick in faster. But you gotta be careful not to overdo the alcohol thing, you could like, die.


doesn't matter if they're water soluble for snorting
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Old 2008-07-28, 22:16
JustAnotherAsshole JustAnotherAsshole is offline
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LOL? They do NOT combine. Why does every little vicodin popper think this? They won't react badly, but it isn't like drinking a pint of cap with a handful of xannax. It doesn't intensify anything.

I don't mean they combine as in the molecules somehow connect or some shit.

I mean they combine as in they intensify the effects. If somebody had in front of them an OC40 and a handful of 5/500 Vicodins and they took them at the same time, they would get higher, would they not? That's what I meant.
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Old 2008-07-28, 22:18
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I don't mean they combine as in the molecules somehow connect or some shit.

I mean they combine as in they intensify the effects.

Which they don't do...
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Old 2008-07-28, 22:20
gabians gabians is offline
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Ever heard of a speedball?

this, too

Why do you think stims and opiates wouldn't go well together?
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Old 2008-07-28, 22:20
JustAnotherAsshole JustAnotherAsshole is offline
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Which they don't do...

Since when does more opiates=/=higher?..

It's not as if they work together, it's just more of the same type of drug.

this, too

Why do you think stims and opiates wouldn't go well together?

I said they fuck with eachother. When you're mixing the effects of a stimulant and depressant, the high is going to be pretty different, isn't it?

Shooting cocaine and shooting heroin feel different than a speedball, don't they?
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Old 2008-07-28, 22:24
consciouscowboy consciouscowboy is offline
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Since when does more opiates=/=higher?..

It's not as if they work together, it's just more of the same type of drug.

It doesn't matter. Anybody that knows anything about opiates will tell you. They do not intensify affects. For example: If five percocet 5 mg's don't fuck you up, and five hydrocodone 5mg's don't fuck you up, then taking all five of each at the same time won't fuck you up.
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Old 2008-07-28, 22:27
JustAnotherAsshole JustAnotherAsshole is offline
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It doesn't matter. Anybody that knows anything about opiates will tell you. They do not intensify affects. For example: If five percocet 5 mg's don't fuck you up, and five hydrocodone 5mg's don't fuck you up, then taking all five of each at the same time won't fuck you up.

So, you're telling me that when you're taking different opiates they have NO cumulative effects?
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Old 2008-07-28, 22:28
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So, you're telling me that when you're taking different opiates they have NO cumulative effects?

Yes, you just experience their separate effects on their own.
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Old 2008-07-28, 22:29
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Originally Posted by mr elusive
The only water-soluble benzo is midazolam (US:Versed,Euro: Dormicum) and it does work good snorted. You can snort other benzos but they last for a lot less time, hence why its much more worth it to take em orally. Once you pop em with a shot or 2 of some hard ethanol you wont feel the need to snort them to make em kick in faster. But you gotta be careful not to overdo the alcohol thing, you could like, die.


i heard from someone on here that its lipid solublility not the water solublility rizzo maybe?
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Old 2008-07-28, 22:30
JustAnotherAsshole JustAnotherAsshole is offline
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Yes, you just experience their separate effects on their own.

So they do indeed have cumulative effects?

So if you're taking Oxycontin and Vicodin, for example, the effects would "pile up" So to speak?
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Old 2008-07-28, 22:34
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Since when does more opiates=/=higher?..

It's not as if they work together, it's just more of the same type of drug.



I said they fuck with eachother. When you're mixing the effects of a stimulant and depressant, the high is going to be pretty different, isn't it?

Shooting cocaine and shooting heroin feel different than a speedball, don't they?


If you took Amps with you opiates, I imagine that it would kill the high. Similar to taking those codeine + caffeine pills. Stimulants will fuck with depressants and visa-versa.


dumbass...

edit: it does not kill the high like you said, stop pulling advice and information out of your ass
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Old 2008-07-28, 22:35
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so they do indeed have cumulative effects?

So if you're taking oxycontin and vicodin, for example, the effects would "pile up" so to speak?

no god damn it
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Old 2008-07-28, 22:37
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dumbass...

Well played, sir. Well played.
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Old 2008-07-29, 00:00
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google "Binding Affinity to Mu receptors"
 
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