PLANT tissue you dumb fuck.

You said you have to eat MUSCLE mass and tissue to gain muscle mass idiot. So according to your logic, vegeterians will turn into broccoli.

I could see it happen, to a REASONABLE extent.

You said you have to eat MUSCLE mass and tissue to gain muscle mass idiot. So according to your logic, vegeterians will turn into broccoli.

no, muscle mass and other tissue does not magically appear, it comes from eating other muscle mass, and tissue. You might end up eating a concentrated brick of pure muscle building blocks or something (think the cocaine of protein shakes) but thats as far as it could go.

According to your logic, you're a fucking moron and should probably go back to school. i added some bold tags and a comma to make things slightly clearer for your obviously lacking intelligence you fucking mongoloid.

I dont even need biology so make this clear to you, so heres a basic lesson in THE SCIENCE THAT BINDS YOUR PATHETIC LIFE TOGETHER. This is what i want you to do.

1. go and get an aspirin tablet.

2. hold it up next to your arm, and then shift your attention to your arm. Got that?

3. See that bulgey slightly squishy thing between your "bone" and your "skin" on the top side? thats called your BICEP.

4. notice size difference between aformentioned aspirin tablet and and BICEP.

5. observe one of the principal at the foundation of modern physics (and all science, for that matter...) YOU CANNOT CREATE MATTER, ONLY REARRANGE IT.

6. Enlighten yourself and kindly shut the fuck up, because unless that aspirin pill is so dense it weighs more than your average aspirin by several (and by several, i mean a shitload) orders of magnitude, IT CANNOT POSSIBLY CONTAIN ENOUGH RAW BUILDING BLOCKS TO BUILD YOU A BICEP. Let alone the other 300+ muscles in the body.

Fuck me this board is overflowing with absolute cretins.

According to your logic, you're a fucking moron and should probably go back to school. i added some bold tags and a comma to make things slightly clearer for your obviously lacking intelligence you fucking mongoloid.

I dont even need biology so make this clear to you, so heres a basic lesson in THE SCIENCE THAT BINDS YOUR PATHETIC LIFE TOGETHER. This is what i want you to do.

1. go and get an aspirin tablet.

2. hold it up next to your arm, and then shift your attention to your arm. Got that?

3. See that bulgey slightly squishy thing between your "bone" and your "skin" on the top side? thats called your BICEP.

4. notice size difference between aformentioned aspirin tablet and and BICEP.

5. observe one of the principal at the foundation of modern physics (and all science, for that matter...) YOU CANNOT CREATE MATTER, ONLY REARRANGE IT.

6. Enlighten yourself and kindly shut the fuck up, because unless that aspirin pill is so dense it weighs more than your average aspirin by several (and by several, i mean a shitload) orders of magnitude, IT CANNOT POSSIBLY CONTAIN ENOUGH RAW BUILDING BLOCKS TO BUILD YOU A BICEP. Let alone the other 300+ muscles in the body.

Fuck me this board is overflowing with absolute cretins.

What the fuck is all this aspirin blabble you dumb shit? You basically said "You have to eat muscle to gain muscle" which is totally fucking retarded. There's already pills that build muscle. Ever heard of steroids? So yes, stop talking out of your ass.

What the fuck is all this aspirin blabble you dumb shit? You basically said "You have to eat muscle to gain muscle" which is totally fucking retarded. There's already pills that build muscle. Ever heard of steroids? So yes, stop talking out of your ass.

OH MY FUCKING GOD YOU ARE SO STUPID.

STEROIDS DO NOT BUILD MUSCLE YOU 14 YEAR OLD BAG OF FUCK.

It is you who is talking out of your ass. Your stupidity is off the fucking scale.

STEROIDS MAKE YOUR MUSCLES RECOVER FROM EXERCISE MORE QUICKLY.

edit: And if you cannot make the connection between the aspirin pill analogy (hint: it could be any fucking pill) and the subject of this thread, you truly have down's syndrome.

OH MY FUCKING GOD YOU ARE SO STUPID.

STEROIDS DO NOT BUILD MUSCLE YOU 14 YEAR OLD BAG OF FUCK.

It is you who is talking out of your ass. Your stupidity is off the fucking scale.

STEROIDS MAKE YOUR MUSCLES RECOVER FROM EXERCISE MORE QUICKLY.

Yeah, uh caps don't make you sound any smarter. Once again you're talking out of your ass because steroids to not make muscles recover from exercise more quickly. They increase the protein synthesis in cells resulting in the build up of tissue, specifically in muscles. You don't have to exercise for steroids to have an effect.

So yeah basically nothing you've said in this thread has been right so you should stop talking.

Edit: I understood you're dumb ass aspirin analogy, it's just completely fucking stupid.

So yeah basically nothing you've said in this thread has been right so you should stop talking.

Edit: I understood you're dumb ass aspirin analogy, it's just completely fucking stupid.

Whilst I agree that muscle mass that is eaten is not magically converted straight to muscle mass within our bodies, In your first post in this thread you claimed that;

You can't predict how far any technology can go.

Implying to me that you believe in the possibility of a magical two-pills-a-day nutritional fix.

At the end of the day, you must admit that it would be impossible to fit an entire days nutrition into a couple of pills, unless they were either as dense as a collapsed star, or approximately the size of a normal meal each. Of course, who are we to futuremong what will be created within 10, 20 years, but to me there is more of a literal size constraint on matter, and even more crudely, what can be fit into our mouths, that would stop this dream from ever coming to fruition.

Sure you could remove everything out of a meal until you were left with exactly what a human needed in terms of nutrition, but we've obviously had millions of years to evolve a method by which we gain what nutrition we need from our food, and our bodies deal with the extra, the roughage, the stringy bits, and without these, suddenly thousands of metabolic pathways and processes would become useless, which, looking at what happens when our immune systems* are used less and less, would appear as though they'd only cause a detrimental effect.

*E.g. look at the numbers of allergies.

At the end of the day, you must admit that it would be impossible to fit an entire days nutrition into a couple of pills, unless they were either as dense as a collapsed star, or approximately the size of a normal meal each. Of course, who are we to futuremong what will be created within 10, 20 years, but to me there is more of a literal size constraint on matter, and even more crudely, what can be fit into our mouths, that would stop this dream from ever coming to fruition.


As of right now, it is impossible. But who knows what things science will uncover in the future. If you would've asked someone 500 years ago if they ever thought we could have a thing like electricity, they would've thought it was no fucking way possible, and you probably would've got burned at the stake for witchcraft.

Sure, I doubt that everyone will be heading to Walgreens on their lunchbreak someday, but if a technology like this was discovered it would have great use for the military and NASA. The process of eating and tasting food is too enjoyable I think to be replaced by taking a pill.

Yeah, uh caps don't make you sound any smarter. Once again you're talking out of your ass because steroids to not make muscles recover from exercise more quickly. They increase the protein synthesis in cells resulting in the build up of tissue, specifically in muscles. You don't have to exercise for steroids to have an effect.

So yeah basically nothing you've said in this thread has been right so you should stop talking.

Edit: I understood you're dumb ass aspirin analogy, it's just completely fucking stupid.

I'm trying to make sure you focus your meagre intellect on the knowledge im trying to drop on you, sadly it doesnt appear to be working :(

Everything you say is so fucking stupid its incredible. Increase protein synthesis in cells resulting in a build up of tissue? Do you understand how weightlifting makes you build muscles at all? Weightlifting creates lots of tiny little rips in your muscles that your body then repairs, getting bigger in the process. And so that is why "increasing protein synthesis" makes you recover faster. Judging by your previous post you think taking steroids magically just conjures up new muscle out of thin air. You are handicapped as fuck. Or perhaps youre going to tell me thats actually not how muscles are built and its the dumbbell pixies giving you a sensual massage while you sweat away in the gym.

Heres a source for you. http://www.sportsci.org/encyc/anabster/anabster.html#1
How a Steroid Works

Heavy resistance training seems to be necessary for anabolic steroids to exert any beneficial effect on physical performance. Most research studies that have demonstrated improved performance with anabolic steroids used experienced weight lifters who were capable of training with heavier weights and producing relatively greater muscle tension during exercise than novice subjects. The effectiveness of anabolic steroids is dependent upon unbound receptor sites in muscle. Intense strength training may increase the number of unbound receptor sites. This would increase the effectiveness of anabolic steroids.

I studied sport science for 2 years. My weights partner finished a steroid course about 2 weeks ago. This leads me to believe i know what i am talking about and you do not. The aspirin analogy is not completely fucking stupid, and the fact you think it is shows you actually do not understand it. Please explain to me how you are going to fit all the nutrition to build your entire fucking body into a pill with a volume of 1cm3 AT MOST.


@ Von Bass: I was trying to simplify it as much as possible so it would be easily understood, sadly i obviously did not simplify it enough. Life is hard.

As of right now, it is impossible. But who knows what things science will uncover in the future. If you would've asked someone 500 years ago if they ever thought we could have a thing like electricity, they would've thought it was no fucking way possible, and you probably would've got burned at the stake for witchcraft.

Sure, I doubt that everyone will be heading to Walgreens on their lunchbreak someday, but if a technology like this was discovered it would have great use for the military and NASA. The process of eating and tasting food is too enjoyable I think to be replaced by taking a pill.

Agreed, I was really just arguing the point from the matter-has-to-come-from-somewhere point of view, and yeah, I wouldn't eat a pill rather than a meal, and I hope to god noone would.

Everything you say is so fucking stupid its incredible. Increase protein synthesis in cells resulting in a build up of tissue? Do you understand how weightlifting makes you build muscles at all? Weightlifting creates lots of tiny little rips in your muscles that your body then repairs, getting bigger in the process. And so that is why "increasing protein synthesis" makes you recover faster. Judging by your previous post you think taking steroids magically just conjures up new muscle out of thin air.

@ Von Bass: I was trying to simplify it as much as possible so it would be easily understood, sadly i obviously did not simplify it enough. Life is hard.

Yes steroids do help your muscles recover faster when working out, but you act like you MUST work out for steroids to take affect which is completely fucking stupid.

One thing steroids does is cause the development of muscle proteins, hence "increasing protein synthesis." Basically, they do "magically conure up new muscle out of thin air" which is why they're outlawed in sports. It's in their fucking name "anabolic" meaning they promote "anabolism", which means cell growth as I'm sure you didn't know. So you don't have to go work out for steroids to build muscle dumb ass, it only makes them more effective which you should know seeing as your a big, smart studier of sports science.

You don't have to "eat muscle and tissue to gain muscle and tissue."

As for the aspirin analogy, steroids prove that a pill can "contain enough raw building blocks to build a bicep. Let alone the other 300+ muscles in the body."

So go ahead and pull something else out of your ass for me to prove wrong.
*waits for next idiotic post*

Edit: lol@the "MY FREIND DID STEROIDS SO I NO WUT I AM TALKIN ABOUT"

I'm loving how so many idiots are flocking to this thread. Try taking steroids without ingesting any protein and we will see how far your muscles out of thin air theory works...it wont. It still requires protein which is found in plants and animals. So therefore we do need to eat muscle and/or tissue to gain muscle and tissue. Also if you take steroids without working out guess what happens? You just become a fat-ass, you don't gain tons of muscle. I think you did jenkem a few to many times and its inhibiting your ability to understand basic concepts.

Try taking steroids without ingesting any protein and we will see how far your muscles out of thin air theory works...it wont. It still requires protein which is found in plants and animals. So therefore we do need to eat muscle and/or tissue to gain muscle and tissue. Also if you take steroids without working out guess what happens? You just become a fat-ass, you don't gain tons of muscle.

Who the fuck said anything about you don't have to have a certain diet when taking steroids? If you can post a source for your not working out while taking steroids and becoming a fat ass idea, I might believe it.

Did you even read the fucking source i just posted for your benefit? ...Can you read? The one which directly contradicts what you just said? Or let me guess, the entire internet is pulling it out of its ass and you are correct right?


Yes steroids do help your muscles recover faster when working out

Once again you're talking out of your ass because steroids to not make muscles recover from exercise more quickly.

Make your mind up.


but you act like you MUST work out for steroids to take affect which is completely fucking stupid.



How a Steroid Works

Heavy resistance training seems to be necessary for anabolic steroids to exert any beneficial effect on physical performance.

I dont even need to think of a witty comment to accompany this one, your stupidity speaks for itself.

It's in their fucking name "anabolic" meaning they promote "anabolism", which means cell growth as I'm sure you didn't know.

Anabolism is the set of metabolic pathways that construct molecules from smaller units. These reactions require energy.

Require energy. As in, DO NOT CONJURE UP OUT OF THIN AIR. As in, Take the shit from all that EXTRA FOOD you are eating because you are on a STEROID COURSE, and use it to help build your muscles. Lord give me strength. i feel like i am educating a particularly stubborn autistic child.

Require energy. As in, DO NOT CONJURE UP OUT OF THIN AIR. As in, Take the shit from all that EXTRA FOOD you are eating because you are on a STEROID COURSE, and use it to help build your muscles. Lord give me strength. i feel like i am educating a particularly stubborn autistic child.

I never said you don't have to change up your diet when using steroids. Also I said "BASICALLY" conjure muscles out of thin air. You're taking my words entirely too literal.

Who the fuck said anything about you don't have to have a certain diet when taking steroids?


As for the aspirin analogy, steroids prove that a pill can "contain enough raw building blocks to build a bicep. Let alone the other 300+ muscles in the body."


I rest my case.

I rest my case.

Whoops I forgot to mention you have to eat a few steaks. Ya got me.

chemical man psychosis dude!

*dances*

Spliffing, I feel your pain.

wow, 2 days and this has turned from chemical man into an argument about steroids. i applaud all involved. what about protein shakes, i know that contain more than a pill but i'm sure that it could probably be made with more protein and less volume.

Private rodent, just stop now. You've already lost.