do you heat your oxy in the spoon or not

some people i know say you have to some do not heat it up at all

some one clear this up for me please

The heat raises the solubility level allowing you to dissolve your dope faster/better.

i have heard that heat breaks down the oxycodone and that you never heat pills for iv

not true?

Just put your dope into the spoon with your water and hold the lighter a couple inches below while mixing. You just want the water rather warm, not boiling or too hot to touch.

lol increasing it's solubility via heat does exactly shit, unless you also happen to inject it at whatever raised temp you brought it up to.



Now, the reason people heat drugs before shooting is mainly for drugs like heroin, or meth, and it is to kill any possible bacteria that might be present.


To kill bacteria for a pill, and make sure you have a sterile solution you just need to make sure you use sterile gear the whole time, and gently wash the outside of the pill BEFORE crushing it, with something like ethanol. Pills can sometimes be handled by several people before you get them, so you need to just sterilize whatever bullshit might be on the OUTSIDE of the pill, since the inside is known to be sterile.

With street drugs, there is NO promise of a sterile clean product, in fact quite the opposite.

^ Didn't Meta once tell a story about how a few of his friends got a flesh eating virus from some tar H cos they injected it without proper sterilisation, but because he smoked it he didn't get it?

I don't IV, but I have heard it is personal preference too? It's nicer to inject a warm liquid than it is a cold one. Makes sense to me, but don't know if there is any truth in it.

Ideally, you would want anything you inject into your body at around homeostatic temp(98.2F). IDK how much it would help, but any stress to homeostasis is not that good, although it isn't that bad.

no, you don't. generally, you don't heat pills. especially if your using a non-water solution. you shouldn't be using cold water either, ideally room temp water's the best....


fuck, if you wanna be anal retentive about it, stick to distilled water, so your not shooting [if using tap water] chlorine, flouride, and heavy metals in the ppb range..

[Just wondering] Wouldnt sterile isotonic saline be optimal, to match the blood's electrolyte content?

a couple of units of water isn't going to kill you..

a couple of units of water isn't going to kill you..

Well sure. I was just asking out of sheer curiosity. When I IV, I just use distilled.

Well sure. I was just asking out of sheer curiosity. When I IV, I just use distilled.
This. And just for anyones information, distilled water MUST be used to IV LSD, or the chlorine and other halogens present in nondistilled water will destroy it.

the reason i ask is i heated some in a spoon earlier not even to a boil just for a few seconds

and it looked more injectable before i heated it at all

ended up just eating what was on the spoon as i decided it was fucked for iv

they are name brand oc 40s so the dont gel

so just stir up the powder in water on the spoon place cotton on spoon and inject ?

If it looks more injectable (like clear water, the clearer the better) then it probably is more injectable. Make sure you run it through the cotton before you IV to make sure it isnt gelled anyway (I hear the name brand OCs can gel too nowadays)

This. And just for anyones information, distilled water MUST be used to IV LSD, or the chlorine and other halogens present in nondistilled water will destroy it.

If you use tap water and dose right away it will be fine.

well i know there are lots of iv oxy users on totse


so do you heat up your shit or not


seems like everyone i know does heat it


whats a good dose i have a mild tolerance of like 40mgs snorted and how many ccs of water do i use

This.

You can, but you don't have to.

If you do, you'd have to inject it at the raised temperature, otherwise it wouldn't stay in a solution for very long, right?

This. And just for anyones information, distilled water MUST be used to IV LSD, or the chlorine and other halogens present in nondistilled water will destroy it.

Another useful tip, SN.

I'm plenty glad that I've found Totse. A wealth of information and knowledgeable, experienced people.

Exactly. Either you have to keep it at that temp while injecting, or let it cool and add another drop or two of water.


And trippintommy, I am not the one you need to be saying that to. If you want to argue that point, go tell shulgin, he is my source for that information. I don't think that's going to happen though.

Opiates break down under heat..don't heat your OC.

People heat tar to liquidize the tar so it mixes easier with the water.

Opiates break down under heat..don't heat your OC.



everyone i know argues the shit out of this with me for hours


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everyone i know argues the shit out of this with me for hours


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Each one breaks down at a different temp, and also release crystal water at a certain temp. Eh shit, thats not the term. I forget, kinda still hazy at the moment, after glow.

Yeah opiates do break down with heat but so do pills, and you need your pills broken down and dissolved in order to get the active ingredients (eg the oxy from an OC) out and into the water so you can shoot them up. So its a double edged sword, more heat makes the pills dissolve more but also breaks down your oxy more. Basically, if you do heat your pills then shoot them quick so you dont lose the oxy out of them. Be careful not to spill of course, theres almost nothing worse than a spilled shot (spoken like a true junkie)

Shut the fuck up, shooting it quick will not prevent you from losing shit, and will only burn you. The key is temp control. You heat it GENTLY.


Do not tell people to shoot hot dope asshole. Giving false possibly harmful information like that is going to piss me the fuck off, and I will dog the fucking shit out of every single post you make if you don't wise the fuck up.

Shut the fuck up, shooting it quick will not prevent you from losing shit, and will only burn you. The key is temp control. You heat it GENTLY.


Do not tell people to shoot hot dope asshole. Giving false possibly harmful information like that is going to piss me the fuck off, and I will dog the fucking shit out of every single post you make if you don't wise the fuck up.

You think it would have pissed you off.

I Should have put this in my original post but please do not give me advice your not 100 percent on.

I am looking for information from people with experience in shooting oxy not some thing you read or a friend told u.


Thank You

You think it would have pissed you off.

I Should have put this in my original post but please do not give me advice your not 100 percent on.

I am looking for information from people with experience in shooting oxy not some thing you read or a friend told u.


Thank You

Wait, are you doubting me? LOL have fun figuring it out on your own then, fucker. You can come back and apologize to me after you've burned the fuck out of yourself with hot burnt up useless decomposed dope. You have fun with that.

Wait, are you doubting me? LOL have fun figuring it out on your own then, fucker. You can come back and apologize to me after you've burned the fuck out of yourself with hot burnt up useless decomposed dope. You have fun with that.

Yea, not to mention that if your shot is over 107F you will probably denature a large amount of vascular system proteins/ systems.

Yea, not to mention that if your shot is over 107F you will probably denature a large amount of vascular system proteins/ systems.

Hey, you'll be high, though!

Motto of BLTC's new generation.

Wait, are you doubting me? LOL have fun figuring it out on your own then, fucker. You can come back and apologize to me after you've burned the fuck out of yourself with hot burnt up useless decomposed dope. You have fun with that.

i was agreeing with you stupid noob

i was like you think you would have been pissed off, i would have really really been pissed if i shot some hot ass shit

i was telling people who dont know shit about shooting to not give there 2 cents

Ah, I misunderstood. My bad.

It does something to the carnuba wax so that when you dab ice in the solution it all freezes up around the ice, making for a cleaner shot.

Be careful. Sucks that I used to know these things from first hand experience.

What?

Is it just me or did that not make any sense.