Man how much did you take.

You jacked off while brushing your teeth.....

I say LSD for a first time. Of all my friends who have done both drugs, Ive only seen bad trips on shrooms. Its just more emotional and bad trip prone, I believe.

Man how much did you take.

i dont even know how much i took, my first time, and i was alone and i just took a handful of fresh, put it in ym magic bullet and made a delciious shroom strawberry smoothie, i dont understand what all this talk about abd trips is, i was alone my first time and i had a fuckign great time, i didnt even think they were working until i looked at my computer screen and the little dots all turned into fractals

lmfao and I think i decided in ym head that since ive never brushed my teeth while jacking it it might be interesting

i dont even know how much i took, first time alone and i just took a handful of fresh, put it in ym magic bullet and made a delciious shroom strawberry smoothie, i dont understand what all this talk about abd trips is, i was alone my first time and i had a fuckign great time, i didnt even think they were working until i looked at my computer screen and the little dots all turned into fractals

lmfao and I think i decided in ym head that since ive never brushed my teeth while jacking it it might be interesting

Well played. Yeh they could entertain me for a good amount of time alone.

Explain or I call bull shit.

Explain or I call bull shit.

How can he translate an experience?

LSD, because it is amazing.

Read my username.

Read my username.

bwhahahah noww i get it

Explain or I call bull shit.

I don't need to explain SHIT to you little kid.
MY personal feelings, MY experiences, MY life.
I'm not going to list the HUNDREDS of things that went wrong, and it's not because of the acid---it was because of my stupid decision to try those drugs so young.
I'm fine now, but what happened to me was NOT worth living.
It's not smart to mess with that shit when the wax of your mind is still drying. You may think you can handle it, you may think you're above other people because of your intelligence---
but even the most mature take a BIG fucking risk by doing that shit before their minds are done developing.

Explain or I call bull shit.

Call bullshit all you want, but he knows quite a bit more about psychedelics than you do.

He's absolutely right, doing psychedelics in your young teen years is NOT A SMART IDEA.

Your brain is still developing, you are still very naive to what 'real life' is, and most important, you are still growing into who you are.

I definitely agree with the 18 thing. I think that's the absolute earliest anyone should touch any psychedelics. You may think you're mature, intelligent, know what you're doing, and all that shit, but fact is, you're not. You don't know SHIT when you're 18. Once you graduate high school and get into your 20s, you'll know what we're talking about.

There's still a lot of growing up to do when you're 18. A whole lot.

Of course, you can be completely foolish and not take this advice and start dabbling in psychedelics and permanently alter your mind/perception while it's still growing and risk fucking up the rest of your education.

Psychedelic abuse CAN and WILL have adverse side effects if you don't use responsibly -- a word which most young bucks don't know the meaning.

Respect your fucking elders.

Shrooms are way spiritual, a body load, and geometric.

Acid is electric, freeflowing, beautiful, easy, however is not to be underestimated what lies inside the universe.

I'd go for shrooms.

It's shorter, but I found shrooms to be so much better than acid.

The only thing I dislike about shrooms though is having to eat them, dry shrooms taste so bad and always leave me feeling sick with a bad body load.

Also, the people who are saying to wait until you're 18 are idiots. You don't magically mature overnight the moment you turn 18. If you feel ready to take psychedelics, then take them, only you know, but only do them if you have the right mindset, and don't underestimate them at all.

Mushrooms. First of all, acid has a nasty body effect - a small feeling of being on amphetamines. Clenching jaw and muscles, etc. Not nice. Second of all, mushrooms are gentler in the ride.

That said, though, both are wonderful.

This might sound like a lot of bullshit. But, I would deffinitley try LSD frist. I have found that acid is much better at deconditioning your social "programming", which is generally a good thing. LSD will help you get your head straight before you have a philosophical shroom trip I would say.

Fuck all this bullshit about how teens shouldn't do shrooms. I tripped for the first time when I was 14. Just you gotta be prepared the shit kind of creeped me out but it really was a fun experience cause its just so fucked up. I did it again when I was 15 but only once. Then I did a full 8th when I was 16 and I was fine.

I have only done shrooms like 5 or 6 times. Just save it for every once in a while. I'm 18 now and I don't see how waiting would have maybe made it better. Cause theres no way to prepare for the feeling you first get on a shroom trip. Just do like 2 grams with some friends you'll be fine.

I'd say that it depends. The first time I did a psychedelic I wanted to trip utter balls so I took 4 grams of excellent mushrooms and went on a cross-downtown group trip with 4 other guys.

You'd think this would be a bad idea, but I felt so confident going in that I had an amazing, life-changing experience. I have only topped said trip once since then and I've done shrooms 5 times, and acid at least 6 times. Acid is far milder in regular amounts (ie. 1-2 hits). I can't speak for a 3 hit experience since acid is so goddamn scarce in Canada.

So, in short, go with what you feel makes you most confident. Acid will likely not fuck your shit up too badly, but a moderately high dose of shrooms may (my friend is still recovering from an existentialist attack he had on a 7 gram bender). However, I am a firm devotee to the power of nature's mushroom - it may taste like 40,000 asses, but you will open your mind unto itself and glimpse all things in a new light.

Christians speak of being reborn when they get "saved", and I hate to admit that a really powerful mushroom experience feels very much the same.

Of course, you could also have a nightmare trip and turn into this guy:

http://www.criticsrant.com/Images/criticsrant_com/News%20Rants/Batman_joker1.jpg

That is the Joker's true origin.

I know alot of this basic information has already been posted, but I am a true lover of psychedelics, so here are my 2 cents:

Whenever I take shrooms, the visuals are secondary at best, and are more like the icing on the cake when it comes to the overall experience. Tripping for me is not about making shit melt and seeing castles materialize in the sand, but instead about the deep introspective moments you have while under the influence. I have never had a bad trip on mushrooms, and I truly believe that if you are at peace with yourself and a mentally stable person in a good environment, then a bad trip is near impossible. I would recommend going out into a large woods (I say large because you really won't want to see many other people as that can add to paranoia) such as a state park or national forest. Even if you aren't and out of doors person I guarantee that you will gain one of the deepest appreciations for nature through a good solid trip on mushrooms while out in the wild.

For me, acid is a lot more of a social drug, and you will in general be focusing more on the visuals. While I have made a fair share of epiphanies while on LSD, it seems to be a bit less introspective and a bit more 'fun'.

Both drugs will change your life forever, and should not be taken lightly, but at the same time not necessarily avoided. If you are going to do either, do it right and prepare beforehand. Proper hydration and reasonable nutrition a couple days in advance can make a HUGE difference and make tripping one the greatest experiences of your life.


Oh and btw, I would recommend mushrooms, as they are definitely my favorite.

I don't particularly like the visuals, they always make me feel motion sick.

meh, i wouldn't say take a "low dose" but more of a common recreational dose, nothing heroic. the thing is you could take 1 or 2 hits of some decent quality acid if you know good people and have an amazing trip or you could take it carefully and take half a hit or maybe 1 and feel mentally blue balled in the end... my first psych was acid and ive loved it since that day, 1.5 hits of some great acid and i was having thousands and thousands of thoughts in minutes.. interesting visuals, and complete loss of what sanity even was, and i loved every minute of it... in the end, despite having a great trip i would have taken more...

i got some fairly shitty shrooms for my first time and ate maybe a little more than 2 grams, for the amount of mind fuck compared to visuals shrooms were much more visual, but as far as psychedelics went it didn't blow my mind... i felt mentally blue balled in the end...

if you a well grounded sane individual with an open and calm mind with no real problems in your life bother you at the moment, and your just happy then go ahead and take a couple hits of acid or an 1/8th of mushrooms and be blown away. pychs have provided me some of the most positive and amazing experiences of my life i see the world completly differently than i used to, in a good way.

do them with friends your first time, be able to go outside and explore, have a pack of cigarettes for anyone who smokes them... and try to prepare yourself for having everything you have ever thought you known about the universe blown to pieces... as joepedo said about acid "expect you and your friends to grow up a few hundred years in 8 hours"

I'd just like to point out that the guy who discovered LSD was very much into nature and natural drugs before he ever discovered it. If anyone's got a destiny his was to discover it, so in a way I think it's natural. It's also related to LSA, found in morning glories and other plants, something he found out after discovering LSD.

stupid noob sells stuff for testing your acid to make sure it's the real thing, I think. And I'm sure there's other sites to buy that kind of stuff.

I have only used mushrooms and cacti. After using mushrooms, I wanted to share that experience with as many people as possible. It's a beautiful thing. Really amazing. I think you should keep your dose highish at first if you've taken the proper safety precautions..... The only thing I can see that might be a concern with trying them when you're young is it can dramatically change the way you see things and it might interfere with your future, your path in life or your education. I don't think it's likely to be bad even for someone at age 14 but there's always the possibility. These drugs can have extremely powerful effects on your life.

Enjoy them and mix them if you can.

I'd personally do LSD first, for me it is less intense and a lot more enjoyable, plus you get mad visuals on it.

I'm considering taking a a single hit of acid tomorrow. This would be my first psych ever. Two of my other friends will be taking it with me. They are both experienced in this field. I am not doing this for the actual trip. I've been around them during their various trips and wish to try the experience of the influx of knowledge. However, I'm worried that afterwards, I will be almost a different person. That is something that really worries me. Can you guys just give me some thoughts/info on this?

cant guarantee your not going to walk out of it different than you started, but most of the people who feel their lives have been changed by lsd feel that it was a positive change... if you want the influx of knowledge take 2...

you realize alot about yourself, those around you, and the world you live in... these realizations might make you see yourself, those around you, and the world you live in differently...

Speaking from personal experience, I have to say that it most likely will change your perspective on life and the universe in general... but don't worry about it changing you into a totally different person or whatever. It kinda alters the way you perceive things and the world around you, but almost always in a positive, insightful way.

I did 1 hit of acid by myself when I was 15 and I loved it. The best way to describe it would be a barrage of changing senses all combining and morphing simultaneously.

The times I did shrooms were horrible, I hated it and I was nearly crying. I did 1/3 of an eigth and 2/3 of an eigth. Shrooms to me were more of an isolation experience, whereas acid opened me up completely.

how long does the the trip on shrooms n lsd last?

6-10 hours depending on how much you take, but count on 8 hours for an average dose; with the last hour allowing you to function almost normally--if you're lucky. Typically a bit longer for lsd than shrooms, but not much.

For me, shrooms take about 1 hour to come on, then trip for about 3 hours, then after that return to a somewhat normal state pretty quickly.

For acid, a good 7 or 8 hours.

But I think I have a pretty quick metabolism for drugs, as pills only last for me about 2 hours, weed about half hour to 40 minutes etc.

Erowid.

But I think I have a pretty quick metabolism for drugs, as pills only last for me about 2 hours, weed about half hour to 40 minutes etc.

this is a very stupid thing for you to say, despite your examples. maybe you have a quick metabolism in general, but what are the chances that you have a quick metabolism to recreational drugs. its like there are all the different chemicals in the world - drugs are just a fraction, and the fact that they produce psychotropic effects does not make their chemical properties similar. having a quick metabolism for weed has absolutely nothing to do with have a quick metabolism for "pills" which is such a broad term, and this is a very retarded statement.

You'll still be Nebacanezh4r in essence, but your reality goggles will be upgraded.

how long does the the trip on shrooms n lsd last?

I've never done acid, but I've done shrooms about 4 times. For me, I'm not back to normal until the next morning, everything is in high definition, and my mind is kinda sludgy until I finally drift to sleep.
The next morning I go through my day with a silent contentment.

Definitely shrooms. They're a good introductory psychedelic.
Not too intense unless you take too many, and it can be hard to have a bad trip if you're excited to do them.

If you are taking LSD, just remember that you are on it, you can control it, and if you start to get too fucked up, take alcohol, it'll numb the sensation.

Also, have a babysitter who'll be relatively sober for your first time.

Also, patterns are great. If you've got a wall with crazy wallpaper, a forest, etc, it's great to get lost in the patters.

WATCH OUT FOR SPIDERS!

http://www.geisswerks.com/drempels/

enjoy ;)

Fuck all this bullshit about how teens shouldn't do shrooms. I tripped for the first time when I was 14. Just you gotta be prepared the shit kind of creeped me out but it really was a fun experience cause its just so fucked up. I did it again when I was 15 but only once. Then I did a full 8th when I was 16 and I was fine.

Don't you fucking dare mis-lead people into this.
Sure, a lot of people can handle it once:
But the first time leads to MANY other things; such as "Oh, I did it once and it was fine so I should do it again LOL"
Just because you THINK you're prepared doesn't mean you are.
It is NOT smart to do them until you're AT LEAST 18.
There is no magical rule that says once you're 18 you can do them, but 18 is the BASELINE age that I would suggest.

I'm not going to make this a large post with all the details and factors that add up.
It is not smart. I am speaking from fucking experience here, and until you can say everything that I can about this, don't suggest it.
Wait. If you are COMPLETELY confident that you'll be fine, and I mean COMPLETELY (NO tiny lingering negative thoughts that spring up every now and then) then by all means do it ONCE and only ONCE.

In short, just because YOU were fine doesn't mean everyone else will be.
So you've read from a few internet sites that say these drugs are physically harmless and harm you only if you have a mental illness;
What they forget to mention are all the other things that can happen. All the other things that happened to me, and almost-ALMOST permanently altered my life into one I was not supposed to live.
Heed my warning.

I don't need to explain SHIT to you little kid.
MY personal feelings, MY experiences, MY life.
I'm not going to list the HUNDREDS of things that went wrong, and it's not because of the acid---it was because of my stupid decision to try those drugs so young.
I'm fine now, but what happened to me was NOT worth living.
It's not smart to mess with that shit when the wax of your mind is still drying. You may think you can handle it, you may think you're above other people because of your intelligence---
but even the most mature take a BIG fucking risk by doing that shit before their minds are done developing.

I call bullshit then grown as man.

I can tell just by reading your post that you aren't a man yet.
Or a very ignorant one. VERY ignorant.

this is a very stupid thing for you to say, despite your examples. maybe you have a quick metabolism in general, but what are the chances that you have a quick metabolism to recreational drugs. its like there are all the different chemicals in the world - drugs are just a fraction, and the fact that they produce psychotropic effects does not make their chemical properties similar. having a quick metabolism for weed has absolutely nothing to do with have a quick metabolism for "pills" which is such a broad term, and this is a very retarded statement.

"Pills" is a specific term, it's ecstacy. "Pills" in England NEVER means anything else apart from E when talking about drugs.

And why is it retarded? Because every drug I've tried so far finishes sooner than it does for everyone else [and yes I've tried a good 8 or 9+ recreational drugs] it's not a retarded thing to say. You're an idiot.

"Pills" is a specific term, it's ecstacy. "Pills" in England NEVER means anything else apart from E when talking about drugs.

And why is it retarded? Because every drug I've tried so far finishes sooner than it does for everyone else [and yes I've tried a good 8 or 9+ recreational drugs] it's not a retarded thing to say. You're an idiot.

you did not say you have a high metabolism for other things, so i am assuming that. what are the chances that you have a high metabolism to seed, or to e (who knows whats in yours)? that are are the chances that you are quickly metabolism to weed, mdma, coke, meth, amp, and caffeine. say there are 100000 chemicals in the world (there are much more). you have a tolerance to all those drugs is quite unlikely.

Don't you fucking dare mis-lead people into this.
Sure, a lot of people can handle it once:
But the first time leads to MANY other things; such as "Oh, I did it once and it was fine so I should do it again LOL"
Just because you THINK you're prepared doesn't mean you are.
It is NOT smart to do them until you're AT LEAST 18.
There is no magical rule that says once you're 18 you can do them, but 18 is the BASELINE age that I would suggest.

I'm not going to make this a large post with all the details and factors that add up.
It is not smart. I am speaking from fucking experience here, and until you can say everything that I can about this, don't suggest it.
Wait. If you are COMPLETELY confident that you'll be fine, and I mean COMPLETELY (NO tiny lingering negative thoughts that spring up every now and then) then by all means do it ONCE and only ONCE.

In short, just because YOU were fine doesn't mean everyone else will be.
So you've read from a few internet sites that say these drugs are physically harmless and harm you only if you have a mental illness;
What they forget to mention are all the other things that can happen. All the other things that happened to me, and almost-ALMOST permanently altered my life into one I was not supposed to live.
Heed my warning. With all the capitalizing and anger, I can't imagine many people are going to take you seriously and 'heed' your warning. No offense, that's just how it seems. Getting emotional when you're trying to warn someone doesn't seem like a good way to get someone to listen.

you did not say you have a high metabolism for other things, so i am assuming that. what are the chances that you have a high metabolism to seed, or to e (who knows whats in yours)? that are are the chances that you are quickly metabolism to weed, mdma, coke, meth, amp, and caffeine. say there are 100000 chemicals in the world (there are much more). you have a tolerance to all those drugs is quite unlikely.

When did I say I have a tolerance to them? I said I have a quick metabolism for all drugs.

Again; you're an idiot. I don't know if you're trying to troll, or trying to look intelligent or what, but whatever you're trying to do you're failing miserably at.

With all the capitalizing and anger, I can't imagine many people are going to take you seriously and 'heed' your warning. No offense, that's just how it seems. Getting emotional when you're trying to warn someone doesn't seem like a good way to get someone to listen.

I_like_pie is just being a big girl, most people ignore her anyway.

Also, how many people do you know that've been permanently negatively affected by shrooms? It's a possibility that it'll negatively affect someone's life or path in life but it's unlikey to actually do so. So I wouldn't really worry about it, it's not as if they'll cure cancer if they never touched shrooms at a young age.. There's tons of kids that use mushrooms medicinally and spiritually in Oaxaca Mexico among many other places, and it doesn't negatively affect them.... There's evidence of DMT increasing a person's intelligence level as well. One researcher in that documentary on the history channel said it did increase the intelligence of those tribes that used ayahuasca. And the chemicals are related, so I think maybe shrooms do the same.

An increased intelligence or awareness sometimes leads to depression but that's unlikely I think.

Set and setting is key, even for crazy people.

Apparently one of my friends moms did shrooms too much when she was younger, and now she's sort of, "away with the fairies" as they say. How much truth there is in that or not though I don't know.

Don't you fucking dare mis-lead people into this.
Sure, a lot of people can handle it once:
But the first time leads to MANY other things; such as "Oh, I did it once and it was fine so I should do it again LOL"
Just because you THINK you're prepared doesn't mean you are.
It is NOT smart to do them until you're AT LEAST 18.
There is no magical rule that says once you're 18 you can do them, but 18 is the BASELINE age that I would suggest.

I'm not going to make this a large post with all the details and factors that add up.
It is not smart. I am speaking from fucking experience here, and until you can say everything that I can about this, don't suggest it.
Wait. If you are COMPLETELY confident that you'll be fine, and I mean COMPLETELY (NO tiny lingering negative thoughts that spring up every now and then) then by all means do it ONCE and only ONCE.

In short, just because YOU were fine doesn't mean everyone else will be.
So you've read from a few internet sites that say these drugs are physically harmless and harm you only if you have a mental illness;
What they forget to mention are all the other things that can happen. All the other things that happened to me, and almost-ALMOST permanently altered my life into one I was not supposed to live.
Heed my warning.

I'm interested... go on. Seriously, I want to know what happened.

You know, everybody's different; maybe if you gave us a slight semblance of an idea as to what it is you're trying to say, the OP would stop being such a nub.

I'm interested... go on. Seriously, I want to know what happened.

You know, everybody's different; maybe if you gave us a slight semblance of an idea as to what it is you're trying to say, the OP would stop being such a nub.

Maybe she became emo and got a bowl cut and started cutting her arms after gaining 300 pounds.

LSD is more energetic

With all the capitalizing and anger, I can't imagine many people are going to take you seriously and 'heed' your warning. No offense, that's just how it seems. Getting emotional when you're trying to warn someone doesn't seem like a good way to get someone to listen.

There is no emotion in text.
I'm sorry, but I will never share every detail of what happened to me.
Just know that it could've permanently taken away my ability to know people and to feel at ease with myself.
Plus, I'm fine now and it's very hard to remember exactly what it was like....You know how when you get really mad one day, and then a month or two later; you can't remember being in that state of mind?
That's what this is almost like.
It was a state of mind.

^^^number dude; psychedelics won't increase your intelligence. They will only make you aware of intelligence that you never used.
It SURE as fuck will increase your awareness; and the type of awareness that I gained will probably help me in the long run, but It would've been MUCH better had I waited 4 years.

I'll say this:
Imagine being able to be aware of what others are thinking, but without hearing the actual words in their head.
Imagine walking around, wondering if you have a mental illness or not---because of the way the world looks afterwards.
It felt like the layers of my personality were SPLIT and located in different parts of my head, parts where they shouldn't be. This was probably imagined, this was probably real.
I won't say anymore.
I'm trying to say this in the least whiney and dramatic way possible, of course; for idiots with self-created paradigms it'd be hard to read without insulting for no reason.

Imagine walking around, wondering if you have a mental illness or not---because of the way the world looks afterwards.

I had to keep reminding myself I was on LSD.

What happened to me appeared to be some kind of word salad, both receiving and talking. I could talk to my babysitter and another guy, but trying to listen to the group or talk to them wasn't possible. Furthermore, throughout the day we'd smoked maybe 2-3 grams each, finishing the night off with a huge 4g blunt. I remember walking inside, everyone was talking gibberish and I started freaking out at how stupid the world was.

Around that time I lost my ability to communicate, and I feared that I might have fucked up my head permanently. Thankfully I was tired and able to sleep, so I reminded myself I was on acid and it would be over in the morning, then went to bed.

Great times.

Take some shrooms bro and just fucking look at stuff its so trippy

http://genocidaltendencies.co.uk/zomg.jpg

Go be stupid in NotT or something.

Shrooms is an easier way to start; it's shorter, smoother and less frazzled. But if you want be a solid psychonaut, see how far you can push yourself. Eat as much acid as possible your first time. You ain't gonna OD; unless you're eating some funky RC, in which case you deserve everything you get for buying from shady dealers and not testing your trips.

lsd because of the price 20-25 or cheaper for 2 hits lsd only really need 1 hit

shrooms to trip its gona take atleast like 30-45 to trip mildly

do not care for the taste of some nasty shrooms

some nausea with large doses of mushrooms

no nausea at all with lsd and it lasts longer in my experiences


LSD > Shrooms




thread./

wtf
of course we wont take your advice if you wont explain
fess up motherfucker

lsd because of the price 20-25 or cheaper for 2 hits lsd only really need 1 hit


It isn't necessarily cheaper. Maybe for you. Mushrooms are fairly easy to grow and if you're lucky they'll just be growing wild near you. Now try growing lsd.


shrooms to trip its gona take atleast like 30-45 to trip mildly

You have to be kind of retarded to say something like that. 30-45 normal cubensis mushrooms is not a mild trip unless you weigh 500 pounds maybe.

Although I knew this mexican guy once that had a crazy resistence to mushrooms.

do not care for the taste of some nasty shrooms

Fancy lads often don't. Some people gag just from having them near their mouth.
Getting rid of the taste is easy though. Dry mushrooms taste pretty bad but you have to be pretty queer to hate the taste of fresh mushrooms.


some nausea with large doses of mushrooms

Not always. Just depends on the person and the trip.


no nausea at all with lsd and it lasts longer in my experiences

That's pretty stupid. A lot of people get nausea on lsd.


LSD > Shrooms


Because you cannot visually ID lsd, lsd loses lots of points, Shrooms > LSD

I agree with all you said, but boy you are getting ripped for acid. 10 bucks for two hits, 20 if acid isn't around much at the time.

OP, definitely go with acid. You really can't have a bad trip off it, while with shrooms you can. LSD is less overwhelming and uncontrolled, plus it's a lot more fun.

wats testing my trips? and how can i do it?

wats testing my trips? and how can i do it?

http://beesafe.goshopper.net/i/18282/ehrlich-reagent.htm

There is no emotion in text.
I'm sorry, but I will never share every detail of what happened to me.
Just know that it could've permanently taken away my ability to know people and to feel at ease with myself.
Plus, I'm fine now and it's very hard to remember exactly what it was like....You know how when you get really mad one day, and then a month or two later; you can't remember being in that state of mind?
That's what this is almost like.
It was a state of mind.

^^^number dude; psychedelics won't increase your intelligence. They will only make you aware of intelligence that you never used.
It SURE as fuck will increase your awareness; and the type of awareness that I gained will probably help me in the long run, but It would've been MUCH better had I waited 4 years.

I'll say this:
Imagine being able to be aware of what others are thinking, but without hearing the actual words in their head.
Imagine walking around, wondering if you have a mental illness or not---because of the way the world looks afterwards.
It felt like the layers of my personality were SPLIT and located in different parts of my head, parts where they shouldn't be. This was probably imagined, this was probably real.
I won't say anymore.
I'm trying to say this in the least whiney and dramatic way possible, of course; for idiots with self-created paradigms it'd be hard to read without insulting for no reason.

so how did you rid yourself of this?

after trying both i found lsd to be way more mature and self benefiting than shrooms - shrooms just made me see shit and felt VERY childish - like the mind of a 4 year old gone wild

While I won't disagree with your statement; some people enjoy that feeling and find it especially uplifting. It's all what you're in to.

Also, don't know if anyone touched on it, DO NOT IV LSD!!! Whatever you do, take a tab or two. If you IV you're going to be fucked up far more for far longer, not something you want unless you know what you're doing on acid.

Hey, Pie
Don't act so high and mighty. I remember your notebook paper smoking days. You say "from personal experience" that you made a mistake by taking mushrooms early. I and others say "from personal experience" that there was no problem with it. Bottom line: everyone's different. You clearly weren't ready when you took them. Others were ready earlier than you. Just because people were more mature than you at a younger age doesn't make them ignorant. Doesn't make you ignorant, either. Just makes them different. Cool your jets.

Hey, Pie
Don't act so high and mighty. I remember your notebook paper smoking days. You say "from personal experience" that you made a mistake by taking mushrooms early. I and others say "from personal experience" that there was no problem with it. Bottom line: everyone's different. You clearly weren't ready when you took them. Others were ready earlier than you. Just because people were more mature than you at a younger age doesn't make them ignorant. Doesn't make you ignorant, either. Just makes them different. Cool your jets.
I am not high and mighty and I already know this.
Back then, I thought I KNEW I was ready.
You don't get it, mainly because I'm being very vague in what I'm saying.

And I didn't smoke that joint.
I was a retarded little kid and wanted to show off;
Wasn't even lined paper, it was a sticker.
It's not just a matter of maturity, it's a matter of your mind in a physical sense (if that's even possible...well in my opinion it is)


Hell, I was right with what I said wasn't I? He's not a man yet, and that's why he hasn't said anything since that post.
When you're older, you CAN tell these things.

so how did you rid yourself of this?

YEARS of self-meditation.
TONS of long discussions. TONS of self-encouragement.
Experiences with people, talks with teachers that actually cared;
But most of all; reading and applying the concepts of that book "Think and Grow rich"

That book honestly saved me, and I don't know what would've happened had I never read it.

More trips helped too, but GOOD trips. Ones that I created and influenced instead of just letting it happen.
Tons of searching. Constant gathering. Translating my thoughts into reality.
It took a LONG time, and there wasn't a single day that I wasn't going through questions in my head. Not a single day that I wasn't fighting it.

No, I kind of get what you're saying. I think I actually had a pretty similar experience, though it was many trips after the first time I took mushrooms. It took a couple months before I felt totally right again, but when I look back on it, it's a little more blurred. During the few months after the trip, I blamed my state of mind (which felt really out of whack) on the trip, but looking back on it now, that time period doesn't seem that different (as reflected by my actions) than the time before the trip. I've changed a lot since then, all for the better, and it doesn't trouble me anymore. I was more taking issue with your accusatory tone than what you were saying. Furthermore, I think that sort of thing could happen to anyone, of any age. There is a long and documented history of both adults and youngsters losing their heads on drugs.

http://www.bluelight.ru/vb/showthread.php?t=224348
http://www.bluelight.ru/vb/showthread.php?t=253110
http://www.bluelight.ru/vb/showthread.php?t=248633

best 3 threads on this subject you will ever read.

it was because of my stupid decision to try those drugs so young.
I'm fine now, but what happened to me was NOT worth living.
It's not smart to mess with that shit when the wax of your mind is still drying. You may think you can handle it, you may think you're above other people because of your intelligence---
but even the most mature take a BIG fucking risk by doing that shit before their minds are done developing.


He's absolutely right, doing psychedelics in your young teen years is NOT A SMART IDEA.

Your brain is still developing, you are still very naive to what 'real life' is, and most important, you are still growing into who you are.

I definitely agree with the 18 thing. I think that's the absolute earliest anyone should touch any psychedelics. You may think you're mature, intelligent, know what you're doing, and all that shit, but fact is, you're not. You don't know SHIT when you're 18. Once you graduate high school and get into your 20s, you'll know what we're talking about.

There's still a lot of growing up to do when you're 18. A whole lot.

Of course, you can be completely foolish and not take this advice and start dabbling in psychedelics and permanently alter your mind/perception while it's still growing and risk fucking up the rest of your education.

Psychedelic abuse CAN and WILL have adverse side effects if you don't use responsibly -- a word which most young bucks don't know the meaning.


Do you both speak of subjective emotional detriment as a result of your use of psychedelics, or of actual brain damage? In other words, are you vehemently opposed to younger teens experimenting with psychedelics because their brains are not fully physically developed(thus being susceptible to brain damage), or because the affective function of their brains are not fully developed(thus causing them to be susceptible to emotional breakdowns, paranoia, ect)?

Not brain damage, personality damage.

It isn't necessarily cheaper. Maybe for you. Mushrooms are fairly easy to grow and if you're lucky they'll just be growing wild near you. Now try growing lsd.


You have to be kind of retarded to say something like that. 30-45 normal cubensis mushrooms is not a mild trip unless you weigh 500 pounds maybe.

Although I knew this mexican guy once that had a crazy resistence to mushrooms.

Fancy lads often don't. Some people gag just from having them near their mouth.
Getting rid of the taste is easy though. Dry mushrooms taste pretty bad but you have to be pretty queer to hate the taste of fresh mushrooms.


Not always. Just depends on the person and the trip.


That's pretty stupid. A lot of people get nausea on lsd.



Because you cannot visually ID lsd, lsd loses lots of points, Shrooms > LSD


i have took lsd 30 plus times and know people who have taken even more not 1 time did any person i know ever have nausea from lsd i dont know what you are talking about

the price for mushrooms is diffrent all over dumb ass so you would have to be retarded to say something like that

everything i said is true i do not know why this dumb ass contradicted everything i said

i have took lsd 30 plus times and know people who have taken even more not 1 time did any person i know ever have nausea from lsd i dont know what you are talking about

the price for mushrooms is diffrent all over dumb ass so you would have to be retarded to say something like that

everything i said is true i do not know why this dumb ass contradicted everything i said

Well I know people who have taken acid a lot more than you or your little friends. And I do not know anyone that got nausea from mushrooms, aside from a few queers that couldn't handle the taste.

As for the price, like I said you can't grow lsd, and mushrooms often don't cost anything.

^ I get nauseous from mushrooms, and it's nothing to do with the taste.

I don't doubt that. But I don't think it's as common as people say it is.

You're right. Apparently there are serotonin receptors in your stomach which are associated with feeling nauseous. Psilocin stimulates these receptors, and so, you...Well, feel kind of sick.

Apparently Gravol (AKA dramamine, dimenhydrinate) helps. I've never tried it, personally, as I'm not a pussy. I just smoke a joint.

Apparently Gravol (AKA dramamine, dimenhydrinate) helps. I've never tried it, personally, as I'm not a pussy. I just smoke a joint.

in my opinion thats being more of a pussy.

i also think placebo comes into play becasue you know you have fucking fungus in you stomach adn that knowledge makes you feel sick

in my opinion thats being more of a pussy.

i also think placebo comes into play becasue you know you have fucking fungus in you stomach adn that knowledge makes you feel sick

Bingo. I think that's more of what it is. There's been times when I was tripping on shrooms when I wished I could be nauseous so I could puke but I couldn't.

Depends partially on the strain too. A lot of people refer to it as "body noise" which has a greater effect on the body rather than visuals and I think that has something to do with it. Body noise combined with having a stomach full of fungus. That could do it. I do think it's very much psychological as well.

Bingo. I think that's more of what it is. There's been times when I was tripping on shrooms when I wished I could be nauseous so I could puke but I couldn't.

Depends partially on the strain too. A lot of people refer to it as "body noise" which has a greater effect on the body rather than visuals and I think that has something to do with it. Body noise combined with having a stomach full of fungus. That could do it. I do think it's very much psychological as well.

body noise, best description of the nausea that i get from shrooms.
It feels like vibrations, and I usually feel and hear my stomach moving.
It was very uncomfortable the first time; but after that I just dealt with it.
Nothing agonizing.

You're right. Apparently there are serotonin receptors in your stomach which are associated with feeling nauseous. Psilocin stimulates these receptors, and so, you...Well, feel kind of sick.

Apparently Gravol (AKA dramamine, dimenhydrinate) helps. I've never tried it, personally, as I'm not a pussy. I just smoke a joint.

You might want to be a little careful suggesting things like that, given the SSRI effects of diphenhydramine.

shrooms, because I just started getting getting flashbacks, and it's hard to deal with.

both at once

Well I know people who have taken acid a lot more than you or your little friends. And I do not know anyone that got nausea from mushrooms, aside from a few queers that couldn't handle the taste.

As for the price, like I said you can't grow lsd, and mushrooms often don't cost anything.

Are you fucking retarded, go through the thread and see how many people say they get sick from mushrooms dumb ass.

And have you ever even taken lsd before because you sound like your talking out your ass.

I am probably older than you and so are my friends.

Lsd has no nausea quit spreading false information you know nothing about.

And about your you cant grow lsd comment neither can you and i bet you cant grow mushrooms either.

I must be a pussy because i dont enjoy eating things that grow on or that touch cow shit, it must not make you sick because your used to sucking all your own shit off your fag ass boyfriends dick.

Are you fucking retarded, go through the thread and see how many people say they get sick from mushrooms dumb ass.

As I said, I haven't known anyone that got nausea from a large dose of mushrooms, possibly from the trip or the taste if they're queer enough, but this isn't common anyway. A handful of dipshits on totse getting nausea from mushrooms means nothing to me.



I am probably older than you and so are my friends.
That may be. I'm only 26. But my friends are older than you and your friends. So neener neener.


Lsd has no nausea quit spreading false information you know nothing about.


Not automatically, but during an intense trip a lot of people do get nausea from it. As with any hallucinogen, it's possible.


And about your you cant grow lsd comment neither can you
Because clearly I was implying that I could.


and i bet you cant grow mushrooms either.

Because it's highly complex for a simpleton such as myself.



I must be a pussy because i dont enjoy eating things that grow on or that touch cow shit, it must not make you sick because your used to sucking all your own shit off your fag ass boyfriends dick. Ohh, you definitely don't sound like a preteeen now.

You're obviously far too sophisticated for me so I won't be replying to you ever again. Plus, I don't wanna destroy this thread with your crushing insults/flames.

I am sure you ruin many many threads with your bad information.

And you never even have taken lsd have you.

I know people who took 10 plus hits at once and lets guess how much nausea they had .....NONE!!

And like i said excuse me for not enjoying the taste of something that grows on shit.