experience tells me that the degradation in potency is so minute that it isnt even noticable.
youre absolutely correct about the mason jar...i must have missed that part.

Yeah I dunno where he got that from. I don't think it's going to lose potency. I mean, when have you actually used a gas chromatograph and actually confirmed that it lost potency? I think the potency loss would be all in your head. I don't think it really loses potency from reharvesting.

It'd be much easier just to regrow a new plant using a cutting from your current plant.

Or even to start over.

Yeah I dunno where he got that from. I don't think it's going to lose potency. I mean, when have you actually used a gas chromatograph and actually confirmed that it lost potency? I think the potency loss would be all in your head. I don't think it really loses potency from reharvesting.

the only reason i mentioned degradation is because i read it somewhere...from experience, ive never noticed it...however, the person that wrote the book i read that in was ed rosenthal, a world famous grower of cannabis, so he very well could have used a gas chromatograph...but like i said, ive never noticed any decrease in potency.

actually, when you cut the lights back to a veg cycle, they do "magically" go back into a vegetative state...its nature man, and also, no they wont continue to produce bud while in a veg cycle...flowering requires a dark cycle at least half that of the veg cycle.

the only reason i mentioned degradation is because i read it somewhere...from experience, ive never noticed it...however, the person that wrote the book i read that in was ed rosenthal, a world famous grower of cannabis, so he very well could have used a gas chromatograph...but like i said, ive never noticed any decrease in potency.

I liked what he had to say about terpenes. Other than that I haven't read much of his writing.

his Q&A books are awesome for troubleshooting garden problems.
Jorge Cervantes also...they really know their stuff.

actually, when you cut the lights back to a veg cycle, they do "magically" go back into a vegetative state...its nature man, and also, no they wont continue to produce bud while in a veg cycle...flowering requires a dark cycle at least half that of the veg cycle.

I've never seen a plant go back into vegetative immediately, but that could've just been a coincidence cause all the guys on the forums had plants which would not go immediately back and kept trying to produce bud for a while. Similar to why they don't clone during flowering cycle.

actually, when you cut the lights back to a veg cycle, they do "magically" go back into a vegetative state...its nature man, and also, no they wont continue to produce bud while in a veg cycle...flowering requires a dark cycle at least half that of the veg cycle.

FLOWERING REQUIRES A DARK CYCLE AT LEAST HALF THAT OF THE VEG CYCLE.

I quoted myself, and capitalized what I think you may have missed.
find me a legitimate link to what youre saying as the truth, and ill take back everything i said, and buy you an ice cream.

Have you ever heard of the concept of revegging a plant? Because people do it all the time. Nothing magical about it when you cut the buds and change the light cycle back to vegetation hours it WILL go back into veg. You can only reflower a plant like 2 times I believe.

You are right that a jar is not sufficient to hold the plant. Most grow them in 5 GALLON buckets. A little pint or quart jar is not going to work. You need atleast a 1-2 gallon pot for it.

FLOWERING REQUIRES A DARK CYCLE AT LEAST HALF THAT OF THE VEG CYCLE.


I'm not saying it doesn't, I'm not even talking about the flowering time or vegetative time. It could be 18 hours vegetative or 24, 12 hours flower or 13, doesn't make any difference. I really do not think any plant is going to immediately go back into vegetative cycle. I think all strains, or most at least, will keep trying to produce flowers after you've picked them off and put the plants back into vegetative cycle, for oh I dunno, weeks maybe.

I wouldn't be able to get a link since it was years ago that I read it. Maybe you should try it yourself so you can know for sure.

Have you ever heard of the concept of revegging a plant? Because people do it all the time. Nothing magical about it when you cut the buds and change the light cycle back to vegetation hours it WILL go back into veg. You can only reflower a plant like 2 times I believe.

You are right that a jar is not sufficient to hold the plant. Most grow them in 5 GALLON buckets. A little pint or quart jar is not going to work. You need atleast a 1-2 gallon pot for it.

I think you missed the part where I said "They'll still try to produce bud for a while". If you didn't have the the attention span of an adhd mental patient, you would've noticed I do fully understand the concept of revegetating, I just don't think it'll happen immediately. You would probably agree with me if you had done more than just read a few things on the internet.

And because of the delay with revegetating, I don't think it's even worth it, especially when you want to keep the plant small.

Btw ilovechronic, from the posts of yours that I've seen, I had concluded that you don't know anything about growing.

Your user name alone says a lot about your knowledge of the herb.

I'm not saying it doesn't, I'm not even talking about the flowering time or vegetative time. It could be 18 hours vegetative or 24, 12 hours flower or 13, doesn't make any difference. I really do not think any plant is going to immediately go back into vegetative cycle. I think all strains, or most at least, will keep trying to produce flowers after you've picked them off and put the plants back into vegetative cycle, for oh I dunno, weeks maybe.

I wouldn't be able to get a link since it was years ago that I read it. Maybe you should try it yourself so you can know for sure.

after harvest, a budless plant with sun leaves, ceases flowering, and goes back into a veg stage. i can say this because ive done it. i think youre taking the word immediately too literally...it may halt growing for a day or so before vegging again, but im certain that it does not continue to produce buds under a vegetation light cycle. Im not going to look for a link to prove myself otherwise, because i do know for sure....we can still get that ice cream if you want. :D

but im certain that it does not continue to produce buds under a vegetation light cycle.

See, I think it will try to produce buds during the beginning a vegetative light cycle after harvesting, but not for long. Long enough to make it annoying. But it probably does depend on the strain. The closer it is to 24 hours of light in the vegetative cycle, the easier it'll be but I still don't think it'll immediately stop trying to produce bud.

IMPORTANT: open mason jar, of course. just a jar, because its big, easy to handle, and can be stashed if an RA comes by

and maybe it has something to do with how vigorous the strain is. It's important to remove all the flowers even when the light cycle is back to 24 hours, because it will keep trying to grow its flowers, especially if you leave any flowers on it, or pieces of flowers. I'm saying this because I have learned that certain ways of revegetating that people have mentioned just suck balls compared to others. I think what works best is leaving only two branches. But I think the more vigorous plants will still try to produce flowers for the first week or two of revegetating.

There are other containers, that are plastic, that would be better than a jar. Depends on what method you're using but if you're using soil you probably need holes in the bottom to drain out excess water. It can be done without holes in the bottom but that's just more trouble than it's worth.

See, I think it will try to produce buds during the beginning a vegetative light cycle after harvesting, but not for long. Long enough to make it annoying. But it probably does depend on the strain. The closer it is to 24 hours of light in the vegetative cycle, the easier it'll be but I still don't think it'll immediately stop trying to produce bud.

IMO, the only reason for anyone to use anything except a 24 hour veg cycle would be to keep plants a bit smaller...and with that said, buds require a dark period of at least 50% of the light cycle...and with that said, plants will not continue to flower while under a 24 vegetative cycle. & like I said, the plants growth will halt for a day or 2, but it will not continue to flower under a veg cycle.

IMO, the only reason for anyone to use anything except a 24 hour veg cycle would be to keep plants a bit smaller...and with that said, buds require a dark period of at least 50% of the light cycle...and with that said, plants will not continue to flower while under a 24 vegetative cycle. & like I said, the plants growth will halt for a day or 2, but it will not continue to flower under a veg cycle.

We can't agree. I also don't think the growth will necessarily halt at all. Often it will but with some plants it will not.

We can't agree. I also don't think the growth will necessarily halt at all. Often it will but with some plants it will not.

you really need to post some links before i think youre credible. because really youve been dominating this thread with no actual proof to any of your words.

you really need to post some links before i think youre credible. because really youve been dominating this thread with no actual proof to any of your words.

I could be the least credible person on the internet for all I care. Why would that matter to me? You seem to think your opinion of my opinion matters. Why the fuck would it matter you silly little turd? You're like every other pretentious little faggot with 420 in their name. You have an internet ego, you actually care what people think of you on the internet and so you think I should care what people on the internet think of my text. I should only be text on your monitor, nothing more.

But I wish you well little turd. I hope one day you can become a big turd.

I could be the least credible person on the internet for all I care. Why would that matter to me? You seem to think your opinion of my opinion matters. Why the fuck would it matter you silly little turd? You're like every other pretentious little faggot with 420 in their name. You have an internet ego, you actually care what people think of you on the internet and so you think I should care what people on the internet think of my text. I should only be text on your monitor, nothing more.

But I wish you well little turd. I hope one day you can become a big turd.

dude im just saying back up your opinions. otherwise it seems like you are ignorantly throwing out info that may be wrong so basically in a nutshell help the rest of us by posting links.
also JFF, i have 420 in my name because it goes with the california license plate scheme not because i think 420 is awesome. 420 is a number associated with marijuana, i dont escalate it to some godly state just b/c its in my name.

We can't agree. I also don't think the growth will necessarily halt at all. Often it will but with some plants it will not.

no hard feelings. & by halt, i mean adjust to the change....a bit of a shock, if you will. im not sure if you have first hand experience with any of this, but you do have some knowledge...however, Im speaking from experience...not something I read on a forum. Ive regenerated several different strains...sativas, indicas, 50/50s, grown hydroponically, organically, SOG, SCROG, you name it, ive tested it.

i do agree that you should leave 2 branches on a plant when regenerating....why would anyone leave buds on it?...no point in it.

Grow questions go in TGO.