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Old 2008-07-25, 04:49
Aces N 8S Aces N 8S is offline
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I was thinking the other day and I came to a logical impass.

I have read that THC and other cannabinoids exist in cannabis as acids and must be heated in order to become active psychotropics. Normally this is done with a lighter when smoking or by the stove when making cannabutter. But what transforms the acids into psychoactives when one makes Green Dragon?

I've looked around and i cant find a satsfying answer to this question, any of the chem heads out there know why it works?
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Old 2008-07-25, 04:50
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I was thinking the other day and I came to a logical impass.

I have read that THC and other cannabinoids exist in cannabis as acids and must be heated in order to become active psychotropics. Normally this is done with a lighter when smoking or by the stove when making cannabutter. But what transforms the acids into psychoactives when one makes Green Dragon?

I've looked around and i cant find a satsfying answer to this question, any of the chem heads out there know why it works?

I've wondered the same thing myself man. Though I've never tried green dragon, so I can't say how effective it is.
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Old 2008-07-25, 04:53
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I'm not sure either...I was never a big fan of green dragons, I usually just end up drunk as fuck and spinning..might as well just get lit and smoke a few bowls.
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Old 2008-07-25, 05:12
36fuckin5 36fuckin5 is offline
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I've wondered the same thing myself man. Though I've never tried green dragon, so I can't say how effective it is.

Green dragon is about as effective as brownies (IE putting a 1/4 oz in a pan of brownies will yield 6 doses, and putting 1/4 oz in a bottle of green dragon will yield 6 doses.)

Wow. I worded that really badly.
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Old 2008-07-25, 11:36
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Because the cannabinoids are soluble in alcohol, and thus they are diffused into the blood stream with the ethanol, getting you high and drunk?

Fucked if I know, I always thought it was because they are soluble in ethanol, and the brownies work because they are soluble in fat, but straight out eating it doesn't work as they aren't soluble in liquid.
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Old 2008-07-25, 14:28
AlCaTrAz AlCaTrAz is offline
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Green Dragon fucks your shit up.

You feel the alcohol more than the THC though for sure.

I get really dizzy on that shit, and, after the last time I yacked from it, It'll be some time before I am in a hurry to try it again.
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Old 2008-07-25, 19:24
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When your body digested it that makes heat as with any energy transfer.
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Old 2008-07-25, 19:31
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When your body digested it that makes heat as with any energy transfer.


Hot enough? Heat will be produced but I don't know if it's enough. If I didn't have to go to work I'd do some research. Someone else should do it.. haha.Roll Eyes (Sarcastic)
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Old 2008-07-25, 20:12
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Hey I didn't say it was a lot of heat, I just told you that it made heat.
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Old 2008-07-25, 20:19
36fuckin5 36fuckin5 is offline
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When your body digested it that makes heat as with any energy transfer.


If it was enough heat to work, you could just eat straight buds.
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Old 2008-07-25, 22:12
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If it was enough heat to work, you could just eat straight buds.
I was talking about when the body separates the thc from the fat/alcohol.
 
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