totse.com | Inducing Amnesia

Valkyr · #1 2008-07-24, 08:49

Is there any way to induce PERMANENT amnesia?

OhMe · #2 2008-07-24, 09:39

a picture of your mom

El Grapadora · #3 2008-07-24, 09:39

a lead pipe

laundrysoap · #4 2008-07-24, 09:40

You wouldn't do it anyway faggot.

azalie · #5 2008-07-24, 09:56

A gun.

<3

sex&violence · #6 2008-07-24, 10:11

As far as I know the only way to induce amnesia is trauma to the head, and hypnosis.

brutist · #7 2008-07-24, 10:31

Take one of those cement things in the parking lots and smash their fucking head in.

Deon · #8 2008-07-24, 12:05

Have a look at a diagram of the brain, there are four main lobes: frontal, parietal, occipital and temporal. I can't remember which but it's either parietal or temporal I think that holds memories and such (frontal being more behaviour, emotion and occipital being vision) Probably parietal because I have a feeling temporal is more hearing, balance etc...

..identify the spot on the target and give a decent whack with something.. blunt force trauma FTW.

that and take pics

-D/

Emperor · #9 2008-07-24, 13:09

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Originally Posted by Deon View Post

Have a look at a diagram of the brain, there are four main lobes: frontal, parietal, occipital and temporal. I can't remember which but it's either parietal or temporal I think that holds memories and such (frontal being more behaviour, emotion and occipital being vision) Probably parietal because I have a feeling temporal is more hearing, balance etc...

..identify the spot on the target and give a decent whack with something.. blunt force trauma FTW.

that and take pics

-D/

new memories are formed in the hippocampus, which is at the opposite end of the amygdala in the limbus system... and then since the hippocampus is a 'hub' attached to your brain and the 'post office' which transfers information, it's spread throughout your entire brain

if you wanted to damage something, you would do speech and word recognition (you can do it so someone can read a word but not comprehend)... that's the only way to do it specifically

- 5 in AP Psyc

Sexual_Jesus · #10 2008-07-24, 15:52

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Originally Posted by brutist View Post

Take one of those cement things in the parking lots and smash their fucking head in.

u mean a cinder block?

absolutecaliber · #11 2008-07-25, 02:23

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Originally Posted by Valkyr View Post

Is there any way to induce PERMANENT amnesia?

Actually, to fucking contribute to this thread not like the goddamn scumbags that fester in BI, an older-style ECT (the ones that still used an alternating current sine wave, not the spike-curve response type the more modern ones used) can cause retrograde/anterograde amnesia.

That's why so many people have such poor perceptions on ECT treatment, despite advances in modern technology.

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Effects on cognition and memory

It is the effects of ECT on long-term memory that give rise to much of the concern surrounding its use.[39]The acute effects of ECT include amnesia, both retrograde (for events occurring before the treatment) and anterograde (for events occurring after the treatment).[40] Memory loss and confusion are more pronounced with bilateral electrode placement rather than unilateral, and with sine-wave rather than brief-pulse currents. The vast majority of modern treatment uses brief pulse currents.[40] Retrograde amnesia is most marked for events occurring in the weeks or months before treatment, with one study showing that although some people lose memories from years prior to treatment, recovery of such memories was "virtually complete" by seven months post-treatment, with the only enduring loss being of memories in the weeks prior to the treatment.[41] Later research by the same author suggested memory of events in the months prior to treatment might be lost, as well as suggesting that self-report of memory loss was in fact a problem before treatment which patients associated with it.[42] Further reviews have supported the idea that reports of memory loss are due to somatoform disorders and not to brain damage.[43] Anterograde memory loss is usually limited to the time of treatment itself or shortly afterwards. In the weeks and months following ECT these memory problems gradually improve, but some people have persistent losses, especially with bilateral ECT.[9][40] One review of patient self-reporting found that between 29 percent and 55 percent (depending on the study) of people who had undergone ECT reported persistent memory loss.[44] In 2000 American psychiatrist Sarah Lisanby and colleagues found that bilateral ECT left patients with persistent impairment for memory of public events" as compared to RUL ECT.[39] A large study (250 subjects), published January 2007 by Harold Sackeim and colleagues found that some forms (namely bilateral application and sine wave currents) of ECT "routine[ly]" causes "adverse cognitive effects," including cognitive dysfunction and memory loss, that can persist for an extended period.[6] Formal neuropsychological testing has documented permanent neuropsychological deficits in patients who receive certain types of ECT treatment,[45][46] A recent article by a neuropsychologist and a psychiatrist in Dublin suggests that ECT patients who experience cognitive problems following ECT should be offered some form of cognitive rehabilitation. The authors say that the failure to attempt to rehabilitate patients may be partly responsible for the negative public image of ECT.[47]

A study published in 2004 in the "Journal of Mental Health" reported that 35 to 42% of patients said ECT resulted in loss of intelligence.[48] The study also reported, "There is no overlap between clinical and consumer studies on the question of benefit."