Are there any deliriants that are stronger than Diphenhydramine, but not nearly as strong as Dautra? I enjoyed my benadryl trips, but would like something a little stronger, but if i take more benadryl i always get nausios if i move around much. And Dautra seems pretty strong to me.

Why not go whole hog?

I think you'd enjoy a nice datura trip.

Amanitas?

I don't understand the appeal of compulsively talking to walls.

Around how many mg's of benadryl do you usually take?

500 mg is most i've taken, i know that isn't to much, but much more and i get sick and end up vomiting.

i heard from someone on this forum (dont remember who) that smoked datura is actually less intense and more controlable than eating it

Don't even do them man, they fuck your mind up in the end. I know this personally.
If you wanna trip just do some shrooms or something.

Fuck that shit.

Fuck that shit.

Is what im saying.
If you want a deleriant, maybe nutmeg?

My best suggestion is try Ketamine, or DXM. Maybe even PCP... These are not delierants, they are dissasociatives, but you will probably enjoy these a LOT more anyway..But seriously, Fuck that shit.

www.erowid.com

What other drugs do you enjoy? Have you tried like...saliva....DXM?

I cringe when I think of taking Diph...i'm not a big fan of restless leg syndrome and having my eyeballs feel like their being pushed out of my head.

You could try Dimenhydramine (aka Dramamine) it's just slightly different than Diph.

I'd call DXM more of a dissasociate..but combined with Salvia you could consider it a deleriant, although it's much more intense than B3n4dry1

Edit: I remember hearing about smoking Datura too, it's supposed to end alot sooner but I don't know for sure.

Datura blunt!

consider smoking datura leaves... ive smoked 2 rolled in with some tobacco. its kind of a dreamy floaty feeling with a mild sort of sedation... not at all unpleasant...

start slow, if you have a plant harvest some leaves, start out with 1 to gauge the potency... some will hardly have any atropine other will have rather large amounts...

start slow, if you have a plant harvest some leaves, start out with 1 to gauge the potency... some will hardly have any atropine other will have rather large amounts...

How long does it usually last when smoked?

smoking won't do shit just eat the damn seeds if you like deliriants but have a trip sitter cause your going to be fucked up in a amusing way :D Datura is the devil!!!!

It is much better smoked and you will trip, and you actually could enjoy it unlike 80-90% of oral trips. Heres an example of someone who smoked, and actually smoked the seeds (go figure, he seems like he liked it though):

http://www.erowid.org/experiences/exp.php?ID=27095

Too lazy to make it into code or whatever.

well in my experience smoking didn't ever do shit but give me cotton mouth like i just ate a mouth full of sand and that was after at least 8 full bong loads but it was just of dried leaves and root and flowers no seeds.

How long does it usually last when smoked?

its a shorter experience, no real judge on time but i would say a few hours...

when you eat it there is no definite beginning or end... when you smoke it you notice the effects pretty quickly, then after a few hours its fading away... i usually end up just going to sleep, sleep comes easily...

Smoking is possible but you need to extract and clean it. If you smoke plant material like our dumbass friend above, it is only expected that you would get nothing but dry mouth and a headache.


You fuckers will fucking smoke anything, I swear. At least learn how to do it right for fucks sake.

its a shorter experience, no real judge on time but i would say a few hours...

when you eat it there is no definite beginning or end... when you smoke it you notice the effects pretty quickly, then after a few hours its fading away... i usually end up just going to sleep, sleep comes easily...

I've always had the slight urge to try Jimson but was mainly worried about the length, this sounds like a much better route to take. I bet the Lucid dreams are wicked.

well in my experience smoking didn't ever do shit but give me cotton mouth like i just ate a mouth full of sand and that was after at least 8 full bong loads but it was just of dried leaves and root and flowers no seeds.

I don't even think smoking the leaves would do anything regardless..the seeds are where its at (even when eating it) maybe if you do it right you'll get the desired effects?

Also, punctuation man. Jesus.

You fuckers will fucking smoke anything, I swear. At least learn how to do it right for fucks sake.

Says Mr. Diph smoker over here... =p

I have ate the seeds so i don't think i will ever try smoking again i learned my lesson. :o I never would have thought to smoke seeds that just sounds nasty

I've always had the slight urge to try Jimson but was mainly worried about the length, this sounds like a much better route to take. I bet the Lucid dreams are wicked.



I don't even think smoking the leaves would do anything regardless..the seeds are where its at (even when eating it) maybe if you do it right you'll get the desired effects?

Also, punctuation man. Jesus.



Says Mr. Diph smoker over here... =p
I had the idea, I've never actually done it. Fuck that.

I had the idea, I've never actually done it. Fuck that.

Yeah I don't blame you, diph. sucks in any form it's taken in.

Yeah I don't blame you, diph. sucks in any form it's taken in.
I tried it a couple years ago, some college kids were doing it, and insisted it was great, I had never actually heard of it before, and being the man that I am, said sure, I'll try it. Never fucking again.

I tried it a couple years ago, some college kids were doing it, and insisted it was great, I had never actually heard of it before, and being the man that I am, said sure, I'll try it. Never fucking again.

I loved the visuals the first time but hated how it felt. It is truly garbage. I still know a few people who think it's awesome..I frequently talk shit to them and tell them to find some real drugs.

I loved the visuals the first time but hated how it felt. It is truly garbage. I still know a few people who think it's awesome..I frequently talk shit to them and tell them to find some real drugs.
LOL the only visuals I had were of talking to people who weren't there.

LOL the only visuals I had were of talking to people who weren't there.

I actually got some wicked visuals (off a very large dose) and the cars parked outside my apartment basically became transformers and some were even moonwalking (rolling backwards =p) while staying in place. I also heard lots of whispering (which freaked me the fuck out) and watched the light on my ceiling crawl around like a giant beetle on the ceiling. It was actually pretty cool, but the feeling I had in my legs and face just trumped the whole experience.

I did it again a few nights later and after swallowing about 35-40 pills I realized I didn't fucking want it and went in the bathroom and puked up a huge chunk of pink half-digested pills. Worst. Taste. Ever...except Nutmeg.

I actually got some wicked visuals (off a very large dose) and the cars parked outside my apartment basically became transformers and some were even moonwalking (rolling backwards =p) while staying in place. I also heard lots of whispering (which freaked me the fuck out) and watched the light on my ceiling crawl around like a giant beetle on the ceiling. It was actually pretty cool, but the feeling I had in my legs and face just trumped the whole experience.

I did it again a few nights later and after swallowing about 35-40 pills I realized I didn't fucking want it and went in the bathroom and puked up a huge chunk of pink half-digested pills. Worst. Taste. Ever...except Nutmeg.


Yeah, the feeling in my legs REALLY pissed me off. My legs are always hurting and restless anyway, that shit made it HELL.

I did diph one time. Took 600mgs. Very stupid for a first time. lol.

Most fucked up experience ever. I was talking to posters on my wall, talking to people who wernt there. I was getting mad at them because they wouldnt say anything back. I was constantly confused and couldnt comprehend anything. No sense of time. It truly is "sleeping while your awake". It wasnt fun, but it also wasnt bad either. Im glad i tried it, but i dont think ill ever do that shit again.

Oh, it's also "good fun" to totally forget what your talking about mid-word. I'd be having a conversation and abruptly forget what was just said (by me or them)...i'd usually stumble my way back in after a few seconds of wondering what the fuck we were just saying. Yeah, I looked like an idiot.