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| Better Living Through Chemistry Discussions of any and all sorts of mind-warping chemicals, pills, booze, mind machines, trippy stuff, current street prices, importing pharmaceuticals, smart drugs, nutrients, herbs, and altered states. Please try to keep your conversations "theoretical" in nature, since this is an open conference. |
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#1
 2008-07-23, 23:12
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Dilaudid (hydromorphone) comparison
Does anyone know the bio availability of dilaudid? Im planning on getting 5-8 mg pills for 50$, is this a good price? Also what would be a good oral and nasal dose? Would tagamet potentiation work with this?
I usually would just stick to oxycontin, but everytime i go to buy from my gay dealer he locks me in his apartment and tries to get me to suck him off for 3 80mg oxys, it sucks cause if it were only a few months ago when i had a bad addiction, i probally would of done it. 
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#2
 2008-07-24, 01:03
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bawls 
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Re: Dilaudid (hydromorphone) comparison
yeah well, wikipedia states that the bioavailability for oral ingestion is 30-35%, and for intranasal ingestion, it's 52-58%.
although i've never taken dilaudid before, it says on the narcotic converter that 40mg of hydromorphone oral is equal to about 106.67mg of oxycodone oral. sounds good to me, that is, you'd paying less than 50 cents/mg for OC.
and shit, dude. your dealer makes you go through all of that? damn, lol, well... at least the fucking offers always on the table, as gay as that sounds. what the fuck did i just say, fucking OC. lol 
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#3
 2008-07-24, 01:08
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seanjohno69 
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Re: Dilaudid (hydromorphone) comparison
Thats a great price. I would say 8 mg is like 40 mg of OC, depending on how you use it though. Maybe like 30 mg of OC if you do it orally, b/c of OCs higher oral bioavailability.
Not to add to the gayness, but consider plugging it (since I doubt you'd shoot it w/the question of addiction still on the table) b/c it will be the strongest way you can do it without a needle. There's oxymorphone suppositories BTW so you wouldnt be the only one getting high w/opiates like that.
Edit: If you did shoot it it would be the rush of like 60-80 mg OC, with the "staying power" of 40-60.
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#4
 2008-07-24, 01:18
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Re: Dilaudid (hydromorphone) comparison
Anyone ever given sublingual a shot with D-lids?
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#5
 2008-07-24, 01:23
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seanjohno69 
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Re: Dilaudid (hydromorphone) comparison
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Originally Posted by Before the Opiate
Anyone ever given sublingual a shot with D-lids?
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About the same as snorting, but takes a bit longer to start working and is the slightest bit stronger. It was only 2 mg though. Higher dose could be different.
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#6
 2008-07-24, 02:14
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Re: Dilaudid (hydromorphone) comparison
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Originally Posted by bawls
yeah well, wikipedia states that the bioavailability for oral ingestion is 30-35%, and for intranasal ingestion, it's 52-58%.
although i've never taken dilaudid before, it says on the narcotic converter that 40mg of hydromorphone oral is equal to about 106.67mg of oxycodone oral. sounds good to me, that is, you'd paying less than 50 cents/mg for OC.
and shit, dude. your dealer makes you go through all of that? damn, lol, well... at least the fucking offers always on the table, as gay as that sounds. what the fuck did i just say, fucking OC. lol 
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Wow very nice! Could i get a link to this converter?
My dealer is really gay but he gives me hella deals, I just don't talk to him anymore because recently the degree of gayness has increased. Which basically means he now is asking me if i want to adopt a kid with him, constantly asking me to "get my dick hard and let him suck on it", and is basically begging me to hook him up with my brother.
My eventual plan is to rob him, which would be of about 5.000$ he keeps in a safe that hes shown to me along with copious amounts of pills.
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#7
 2008-07-24, 02:31
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bawls 
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Re: Dilaudid (hydromorphone) comparison
lmao, good deal. oh and, here's the narcotic converter. not sure how accurate this really is, but eh, the idea behind it sounds cool.
http://www.globalrph.com/narcoticonv.htm
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#8
 2008-07-24, 02:34
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Re: Dilaudid (hydromorphone) comparison
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Originally Posted by bawls
lmao, good deal. oh and, here's the narcotic converter. not sure how accurate this really is, but eh, the idea behind it sounds cool.
http://www.globalrph.com/narcoticonv.htm
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Wow this is very convenient, thank you!
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#9
 2008-07-25, 03:29
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mr elusive 
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Re: Dilaudid (hydromorphone) comparison
Wow very nice! Could i get a link to this converter?
My dealer is really gay but he gives me hella deals, I just don't talk to him anymore because recently the degree of gayness has increased. Which basically means he now is asking me if i want to adopt a kid with him, constantly asking me to "get my dick hard and let him suck on it", and is basically begging me to hook him up with my brother.
My eventual plan is to rob him, which would be of about 5.000$ he keeps in a safe that hes shown to me along with copious amounts of pills.
Adopt a kid with him, hilarious.
And what, he'd give you free shit just to suck you off? Actually I could see that....
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#10
 2008-07-25, 03:40
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jheit2 
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Re: Dilaudid (hydromorphone) comparison
About the same as snorting, but takes a bit longer to start working and is the slightest bit stronger. It was only 2 mg though. Higher dose could be different.
I tried this once with a 4mg and it was the same as snorting, but maybe a little stronger and a little longer lasting. And slower to kick in.
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#11
 2008-07-25, 03:45
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mr elusive 
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Re: Dilaudid (hydromorphone) comparison
IV>IM/SC>rectal>sublingual>snorting>oral/paracuting
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#12
 2008-07-25, 03:54
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Re: Dilaudid (hydromorphone) comparison
Wow very nice! Could i get a link to this converter?
My dealer is really gay but he gives me hella deals, I just don't talk to him anymore because recently the degree of gayness has increased. Which basically means he now is asking me if i want to adopt a kid with him, constantly asking me to "get my dick hard and let him suck on it", and is basically begging me to hook him up with my brother.
My eventual plan is to rob him, which would be of about 5.000$ he keeps in a safe that hes shown to me along with copious amounts of pills.
That is fucking hilarious. You know you let him do it, don't lie.
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