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Old 2008-07-23, 08:39
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I'm confused as to marijuana's affect on mental health.

I've read that it can only bring out underlying mental illnesses, but I've also read that it can actually cause them.

Anyone know with any certainty which one it is?
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Old 2008-07-23, 08:48
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The former.

Don't believe the hype.
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Old 2008-07-23, 09:31
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Eh, depression is the worst it can cause, and you only get depression if your a fucking pussy.
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Old 2008-07-23, 09:52
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Your sanity stands no chance against the herb.
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Old 2008-07-23, 10:09
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mental health , weed
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Old 2008-07-23, 10:37
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Since when has weed caused mental health problems?
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Old 2008-07-23, 10:56
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Since when has weed caused mental health problems?


Ever heard of reefer madness?!?!
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Old 2008-07-23, 12:28
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Weed can causes Cannabis Psychosis. Ive seen this hapen first hand.

These new very stong verieties of Skunk are so strong they can cause this, and it causes depression too, which can last all your life. so be careful you crazy kids.
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Old 2008-07-23, 19:00
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Well I've heard of cases like mild paranoia and/or anxiety from super potent bud but thats during the high, (acute.) Or perhaps an allergic reaction to the smoke from some one that has asthma. Long term effects might include mild memory loss, I'm not sure about depression, and what ever physical effects that might come about from long term use. Physical health and mental health go hand in hand in terms of effecting one another.
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Old 2008-07-23, 19:31
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I saw this factual documentary called 'reefer madness'. It was in black and white, so it must have had some credibility. Anyway, it explained why I always bark like a dog every time I smoke da 'erb. True story.
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Old 2008-07-23, 20:24
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Originally Posted by Nitrogen51
I'm confused as to marijuana's affect on mental health.

I've read that it can only bring out underlying mental illnesses, but I've also read that it can actually cause them.

Anyone know with any certainty which one it is? Confused


It can not bring out nor can it cause.

If a person has a mental illness, he may smoke marijuana to help him mentally through that illness. Did the marijuana cause the illness or did the illness cause the excessive use of pot? It should jump at you that the mental disorder came first, if it doesn't you are retarded, but could look at statistics to prove my point.

BTW, 95% of schizophrenics smoke cigarettes, does this mean that cigarettes cause schizophrenia?
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Old 2008-07-24, 21:56
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It can not bring out nor can it cause.

If a person has a mental illness, he may smoke marijuana to help him mentally through that illness. Did the marijuana cause the illness or did the illness cause the excessive use of pot? It should jump at you that the mental disorder came first, if it doesn't you are retarded, but could look at statistics to prove my point.

BTW, 95% of schizophrenics smoke cigarettes, does this mean that cigarettes cause schizophrenia?

I think this is a very good point
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Old 2008-07-24, 22:27
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There's a lot of misinformation on both sides about this. Anti-pot crusaders tend to add it as another one of their "facts" about weed, which of course leads all the pot smokers to dismiss it. I've personally seen it happen to someone I know. He did other drugs too but he hadn't used any drugs but weed for a month when he went psychotic. He ended up in a mental hospital for about a month. The doctors weren't sure what to diagnose it as so they just called it drug-induced psychosis.

He's completely normal now as far as I can tell, and still smokes, just not as much.
He used to smoke pretty heavily though. So if this is something you're worried about just don't smoke everyday, or if people(other weed smokers) seem to think your acting pretty strangely high take it as a warning sign.
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Old 2008-07-24, 22:35
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or if people(other weed smokers) seem to think your acting pretty strangely high take it as a warning sign.

Acting strangely high is some kind of warning sign?

shiiit.
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Old 2008-07-24, 22:50
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I know for a fact Marijuana has fucked me up mentally.

Do I care, nah.


And yes, you can definitely notice if you're high and no one else is on your vibe.

Saying completely made up facts about random municipalities in the U.S..

or acting like the Tsar of Russia. Shit like that is the norm with me. People who smoke with me now have gotten used to it.

Plus feeling miserable when there's no weed to smoke. . .going on a trip soon, should be fun.
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Old 2008-07-24, 23:08
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Acting strangely high is some kind of warning sign?

shiiit.

Of course people act differently high, but if other stoners think your acting strange(knowing your high). Like if your talking to a wall or something!
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Old 2008-07-25, 01:17
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ok, marijuana CAN bring out underlying illnesses. schizophrenia, paranoia and anxiety being some of the majors. now it cannot CAUSE mental illnesses. sounds to me like weed isnt "for" whoever you are talking about. most likely paranoia/anxiety but paranoid schizophrenia cant be ruled out.

lay off the smoke for about a month or two, then try it back out. you may like it later on.
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Old 2008-07-25, 01:18
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Of course people act differently high, but if other stoners think your acting strange(knowing your high). Like if your talking to a wall or something!

that was pretty stupid...
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Old 2008-07-25, 02:17
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that was pretty stupid...

Me agree.
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Old 2008-07-25, 02:19
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IMO how some would turn to sedatives to chill out, pot works better...

i knew of a mentally retarded kid who when he'd smoke pot, would for once not studder when he talked. but the sheer paranoia he exprienced outweighed any benefit...
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Old 2008-07-25, 02:20
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Thats a crock of shit.
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Old 2008-07-25, 02:25
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Originally Posted by George Harrison
Weed can causes Cannabis Psychosis. Ive seen this hapen first hand.

These new very stong verieties of Skunk are so strong they can cause this, and it causes depression too, which can last all your life. so be careful you crazy kids.



Bullshit.

Don't be posting crap like this because a lot will believe you and we are very much against misinforming people.
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Old 2008-07-25, 02:25
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IMO how some would turn to sedatives to chill out, pot works better...

i knew of a mentally retarded kid who when he'd smoke pot, would for once not studder when he talked. but the sheer paranoia he exprienced outweighed any benefit...


In the film, "In Pot We Trust" this girl uses it to help her crazy studder... but she had to buy it off the streets of the city since the herb is illegal and she couldn't obtain the proper license....
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Old 2008-07-25, 02:32
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The former.

Don't believe the hype.
This.

Also, if you have serious mental issues, it's usually best not to use ANY mind altering substances unless at the direction of a doctor*
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Old 2008-07-25, 02:58
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Default Re: Marijuana and Mental Health; Quick Question

It makes me have bad trips, but it's nothing permanent.

Reefer Madness was created to scare people away from marijuana. I remember seeing a pic of an old 1940s or 30s poster on the internet that was said like REEFER MADNESS, BEWARE!

It's all a lie.
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Old 2008-07-25, 03:05
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Eh, depression is the worst it can cause, and you only get depression if your a fucking pussy.
there have been studies that show that doses lower than anxiety inducing doses actually help alleviate depression... i can try to find the article if you would like to read it...
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Old 2008-07-25, 04:07
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to any schizo's here, even mild schizo's who have smoked weed, how has it affected you?
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